Chess worlds teaches us a lesson

Uberdude · **#21**

Knotwilg wrote:

You cannot say sports like American Football or Baseball are badly marketed (in the US). Yet in Europe nobody cares about them. Marketing is not everything.

Though perhaps they are growing a little: there were some NFL (American Football) games in Wembley (England's national football stadium) recently. I heard about it because there were concerns about them damaging the pitch for football games a few days later.

RBerenguel · **#22**

Uberdude wrote:

Knotwilg wrote:

You cannot say sports like American Football or Baseball are badly marketed (in the US). Yet in Europe nobody cares about them. Marketing is not everything.

Though perhaps they are growing a little: there were some NFL (American Football) games in Wembley (England's national football stadium) recently. I heard about it because there were concerns about them damaging the pitch for football games a few days later.

It's like big soccer teams going to the US for summer training matches: it's widening market(s) and market share.

virre · **#23**

Carlsen makes a big splash in Norway and splashes on to Sweden even. The Norweigan broadcasting hade live games (don't know if on TV or online, they where also webbroadcast on Swedish state televisions play site) with commentary, analysis, twitter contact with viewers (If I was Carlsen I would have played like this etc)

But I think the impact is mostly because good results, have chess in Norway become more popular due to Carlsen?

(And no I understand hardly nothing of chess. I am even worse at that then I am at Go)

sybob · **#24**

I agree with Pippen, although I think it is not 'just' a matter of the world championship.
Carlssen is not only very good at chess, but he also has appeal (to the ladies and youngsters) and for years FIDE marketed and promoted chess and Carlssen as Mr Chess Face. He is even sponsored by a fashion company. People (that is: Westerners) can relate to him.
The go community misses such a person, such a face, such an icon to which the public can relate, and it misses the worldwide organisation to support and promote him.

Abyssinica · **#25**

sybob wrote:

I agree with Pippen, although I think it is not 'just' a matter of the world championship.
Carlssen is not only very good at chess, but he also has appeal (to the ladies and youngsters) and for years FIDE marketed and promoted chess and Carlssen as Mr Chess Face. He is even sponsored by a fashion company. People (that is: Westerners) can relate to him.
The go community misses such a person, such a face, such an icon to which the public can relate, and it misses the worldwide organisation to support and promote him.

How can you say no to this face?

sybob · **#26**

Abyssinica! That you?

gowan · **#27**

We missed our chance if you want a go master who would attract the general Western people. The late Japanese master Fujisawa Hideyuki (Shuko) would fill the bill. He was a charismatic great champion, a drinker, a gambler and he made a lot of money in real estate. Unfortunately he died.

DrStraw · **#28**

gowan wrote:

We missed our chance if you want a go master who would attract the general Western people. The late Japanese master Fujisawa Hideyuki (Shuko) would fill the bill. He was a charasmatic great champion, a drinker, a gambler and he made a lot of money in real estate. Unfortunately he died.

That's why I chose him in that other thread about which pro you would want to play a casual game against.

gowan · **#29**

gowan wrote:

We missed our chance if you want a go master who would attract the general Western people. The late Japanese master Fujisawa Hideyuki (Shuko) would fill the bill. He was a charismatic great champion, a drinker, a gambler and he made a lot of money in real estate. Unfortunately he died.

P.S. I forgot to add womanizer to the list.

RBerenguel · **#30**

Probably worth pointing out that Carlsen has retained its title, after defeating Anand in the 11th game. I need to get better at chess someday

Drew · **#31**

RBerenguel wrote:

Probably worth pointing out that Carlsen has retained its title, after defeating Anand in the 11th game. I need to get better at chess someday

Gone and made himself genderless, did he? That's real devotion to the game! :clap:

RBerenguel · **#32**

Drew wrote:

RBerenguel wrote:

Probably worth pointing out that Carlsen has retained its title, after defeating Anand in the 11th game. I need to get better at chess someday

Gone and made himself genderless, did he? That's real devotion to the game! :clap:

XDDD too much chatting online with a Finn who neutralises all possession pronouns...

1/7,000,000,000 · **#33**

DrStraw wrote:

Well, I realize that, but the point I was making was that if chess is so big then I should have heard of them.

If you have even the slightest idea about chess and haven't heard about Carlsen then you should be worried. If you don't care at all then it's the same as someone not knowing Lee Sedol which is fine.

John Fairbairn · **#34**

As I write (2014-11-30) I gather Kasparov is about to play two games of chess with shogi wizard Habu Yoshiharu in Tokyo. Kasparov estimates Habu is about 2500 Elo. Habu is also a decent go player. Not sure whether he can chew gum as well.

RBerenguel · **#35**

John Fairbairn wrote:

As I write (2014-11-30) I gather Kasparov is about to play two games of chess with shogi wizard Habu Yoshiharu in Tokyo. Kasparov estimates Habu is about 2500 Elo. Habu is also a decent go player. Not sure whether he can chew gum as well.

Nope, they were played quite a few hours ago (yesterday, actually, for GMT dwellers), Kasparov 2-0. Habu is officially 2400, but Kasparov rates him higher.

Edit: link is this: http://en.chessbase.com/post/kasparov-v ... ogi-legend

Codexus · **#36**

That was on Friday.

A 2 min video summary by NHK World (in English):
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/english/ ... 90218.html

Watch the replay of the whole event (mainly in Japanese but Kasparov speaks in English):
http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv199645929

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