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| Author: | otenki [ Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:51 am ] | ||
| Post subject: | Orthodox fuseki question | ||
Hi guys, I've attached a sgf with a bunch of variations for orthodox. In the variation "R10 R8 R14 R12": Is the move Q12 a bad move ? and what would be the best reply ? I keep getting this move against me when playing like this and I did not find a good way to reply. Thanks!, Otenki
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| Author: | EdLee [ Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:04 am ] |
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First, what is your idea behind B R12 ? otenki wrote: I've attached a sgf with a bunch of variations for orthodox. Kind of an understatement.One idea: see the variation W R10 B R8 W R14 B R12 W S12 B O17 Q12. 
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| Author: | jts [ Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Orthodox fuseki question |
Curiosity; are these variations you found in some source, or your own ideas, or? |
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| Author: | Solomon [ Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Orthodox fuseki question |
I don't think it's good. You give Black influence and all you get is to connect underneath for meager territory. This is only something you'd consider in a bad situation. The variation suggested by EdLee only applies if W plays S12 first, not Q12. |
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| Author: | otenki [ Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Orthodox fuseki question |
I think my question is more like generaly what do i do when someone attaches on the top (i know what to do at the bottom to my invasion into the 3 space extension. Can i simply hane up and try to build influence this way ? But then white can cut. What I want is influence towards center (and continue build my moyo/framework) and to keep white low, not sure how i could do this. Oh and the source is: http://www.fortmyersgo.org/2010/03/25/t ... ox-fuseki/ |
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| Author: | Dusk Eagle [ Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Orthodox fuseki question |
This result is better for black than white. Black has a powerful ponnuki in the center, which also works well with his 4-4 stone. This result is also bad for white. The  stone is badly damaged by black's three stones.
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| Author: | otenki [ Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Orthodox fuseki question |
This is exactly what I was looking for, I understand in which direction I should be going with this now. I'll try a few more variations on a board by myself and then go ahead and try it out in my games. Thanks a lot !, (genki) Otenki
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