My Mac update is 45, and claims to be the current version and won't let me update it. Hidden pic follows. Any ideas? There is a chance I told it to skip an update, because I didn't want KGS to fail, but you'd think it would let me update manually.UnclMartin wrote:The most recent version of Java 7 is update 51. As far as I know, the ability to add exceptions is not available with older versions.
So far as I know, that's the latest version for the Mac. But I can't check for myself because I haven't updated to Mavericks (still using AppleWorks--don't laugh).wineandgolover wrote: My Mac update is 45, and claims to be the current version and won't let me update it. Hidden pic follows. Any ideas? There is a chance I told it to skip an update, because I didn't want KGS to fail, but you'd think it would let me update manually.
I using Mavericks, and java 1.7.0_45 and don't have any problems (except the usual problems, sound, font kerning, etc). Apple no longer provides Java out of the box -- I had to install it myself. (unless you did an upgrade to Mavericks, instead of new install -- then the OS installer probably tweaked some settings for you that disabled things)rottenhat wrote:None of this is working for me, I'm afraid - I've added every exception mentioned in this thread but both the client and the applet just hang while loading. Has anyone managed to get this working on OS X Mavericks with Java 7.51?
That's just dumb. As a java developer, I have multiple versions of Java on my machine and use whichever one I need to use to get what ever job done that I'm working on at the time. You properly define JAVA_HOME and your PATH in which ever shell environment you're working in, and away you go.UnclMartin wrote: Oracle recommends users have only one version of Java on their machines, and it should be a recent version of Java 7.
1. Users do not need to know exactly what exploit was fixed on what version. Users should not need such technical expertise and, moreover, users might not even be able to know that as the source code is often proprietary.Bantari wrote:I wonder if most people who sit there and busily download all the newest versions for all the newest stuff they use even know what "security issues" really mean. And what exact security issues is the new versions of the new stuff fixing. Or if they even need it....
Just sayin'...
If it hangs while loading, without a dialog appearing (such as giving you a warning and asking if you want to continue), it is likely an unrelated problem.rottenhat wrote:None of this is working for me, I'm afraid - I've added every exception mentioned in this thread but both the client and the applet just hang while loading. Has anyone managed to get this working on OS X Mavericks with Java 7.51?
You are right, of course. Users are just that - users, consumers. They don't need to know nothing, just blindly follow the updates and trust... no, not "trust" - *know!*... that the big corporations releasing the new and improved versions of the stuff they use are always up to par and on the level.uPWarrior wrote:1. Users do not need to know exactly what exploit was fixed on what version. Users should not need such technical expertiseBantari wrote:I wonder if most people who sit there and busily download all the newest versions for all the newest stuff they use even know what "security issues" really mean. And what exact security issues is the new versions of the new stuff fixing. Or if they even need it....
Just sayin'...
That's childish. You should know as must as you can. However, you should also know that nobody knows everything and therefore trust is part of living in society. Do you know every ingredient of everything you eat? Do you know what goes into the fuel that the car passing by is using? Do you know if the building you are in is going to come to pieces in a second? You don't. You trust and that is fine because you have the opposite option: if you suspect the java update might do something unintended, then simply don't install it and move on, exactly the same way you wouldn't go into a building you don't trust.Bantari wrote: You are right, of course. Users are just that - users, consumers. They don't need to know nothing, just blindly follow the updates and trust... no, not "trust" - *know!*... that the big corporations releasing the new and improved versions of the stuff they use are always up to par and on the level.
Silly me.
Sorry for suggesting that users should actually benefit from knowing anything. What was I thinking?!?...