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Heartless and I will be playing a Malkovich game in this very thread. Unless Heartless says so otherwise, it will be an even game.
My nigiri:
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Hi I'm Heartless, I'm currently on the 2k-1k border on KGS. I'm new to the 19x19 forums , but I thought that Malkovich games were a good way to get started here.
So I'm not exactly sure how nigiri is supposed to work here, but I'll guess odd.
How would you caricaturize your style? Do you like competing frameworks ? Fighting ? Close territorial games ? Any fuseki or joseki choices you're looking forward to ?
will probably be in the lower-right corner, and a pincer can be expected. There are quite a few variations given on the two latest pages of Cho Hye-yeon 8-dan's blog. If all goes according to plan, I will be able to play one of these.
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How would you caricaturize your style? Do you like competing frameworks ? Fighting ? Close territorial games ? Any fuseki or joseki choices you're looking forward to ?
I would describe my style as rather flexible. I'm comfortable playing wit both influence and territory, but not with taking too much of either too early. I like to keep balance. I like to have a larger framework than my opponent early in the game and force them to invade. My favorite opening is either the orthodox, or the micro chinese, depending on my mood and opponent's corner choices. When I'm white (such as this game) I usually prefer double star points as I don't think there is time to be passive.
I'm fine with a diagonal fuseki, and I like hoshi with white. I'm fine with giving black mini-chinese if he so chooses. Although I might change up my plans depending on my mood, so we'll see...
All is still according to plan. I'm hoping for a lot of fighting and violence in this game. Of course, if I manage to pull ahead comfortably in the opening, then I'll probably play peacefully. I'll just have to wait and see what happens from here.
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So he decided to play a double komoku opening. I responded with hoshi again because I like to maintain flexibility and speed in the opening. If he now chooses to enclose his corner, I will probably either high approach or distant low approach his lower right komoku. Aiming for something like one of the next diagrams.
Of course, he could also approach my top left, usually with the goal of forming a mini chinese opening. I think now since all of his stones are low, I would be comfortable with pincering since a running fight would not be to my disadvantage, especially with his top right not yet enclosed.
I don't know where the pros play (something to look up!) but when I am white facing this I always play it as shown in order to make black's pincer less severe. any farther away from black's stone though invites black to make a proper shimari, which doesn't feel as good. But I digress.
So, the moment of truth - will he be okay with playing from the Mini Chinese or will he pincer here to prevent it? I'm only coming up with plans for how to deal with a pincer as I type this, but here's my idea so far:
I'll show where I plan on placing in the next post. Actually, I'm getting pretty excited about playing this way. Pincer, Heartless! Pincer!
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So, according to plan, I will pincer to prevent mini/micro chinese. I would be fine giving up that formation if black had hoshi in lower right, but now I feel that it will not be as easy to wedge the right side with a komoku still open. If black finishes the joseki here, I will have sente to approach the top right. If he encloses first, I will debate between extending (a) or covering (b)
is a fairly new move I believe. A bunch of variations are covered by GoCommentary/countsheep here. I can't recheck this video right now, as this is a closed-book game, but here's what I remember.
I think white can play at one of 'a' or 'b' above as well - I don't remember which right now, nor how the joseki continues from there.
This is my first time playing this joseki (assuming I get to play it at all), so it is still experimental to me. That is why I'm excited about this chance. Now please, Heartless, let me play my move. Don't pincer my bottom-left stone and make me lose my chance to play this move here.
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Ok, his last move was slightly unexpected, but I guess it goes along with the same intuition as enclosing the top right, presenting a more urgent situation for me to defend.
If I simply covered his stone or played C14, we might have something like the next diagram
Although white will have sente, I feel that black would have made progress all over the board, while the top right still has a lot of aji.
Also, I did not want to simply extend, as the bottom isn't worth as much as the left side with black's low stone there.
What I'm anticipating is either white jumps into the corner, and I will take sente to cover the stone on top, building a nice position on the right, albeit with some aji. Or, he might start a running fight, in which case I feel I would be in good position to defend given all of the weak stones he has created.
That was a good move by white which I did not expect. I had only considered white playing the keima or the one-space low pincer.
I considered jumping into a corner, but that ends in gote for me and allows him to get a third move on one of my stones. That's not necessarily bad, but I just didn't like the results I saw from it.
So instead, my goal here is to build up some influence by leaning on his two upper stones, and then hop out in the lower left and attack his pincer stone. We'll see if I can make this pan out.
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P.S. Thanks Loons. I still want to do more research into that opening - it looks fun to play.
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limits how much the black corner stones can help his lone stone at c6, and he still needs to run out with his group at the top. D9 turns out to be in perfect position in the upcoming fight. Later, I can also aim at a or b.
Harleqin's comment was probably something like "Black's last move was wrong." And he might be right. But I'll see how it actually works out first before thinking of it as a mistake. There's plenty of things that can happen.
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I think this is a/the continuation of this joseki. It certainly feels right. Playing low feels worse as it makes it easier for white to split me. Plus, playing high here seems better for gaining influence to attack his pincer stone, which was my goal when I started this joseki and still is my goal.
P.S. Heartless may have mentioned this, but his last move was not the only one he could have played. He could also have played the ascent, for instance.
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I feel it would be too easy for black to link up his stones, and he has come away from this corner with sente, and suddenly my pincer stone at D9 can be split (B at a or[i]b[i]).
So instead I will play E14 with the other variation in mind, where I can keep his pincer stone away from help, his groups separated, and some support for my D9 pincer stone.
Another choice for black that I'm still thinking about is hane:
However, I think playing like this is the strongest resistance for black. I have not read this line of play entirely, but it seems I can pull out my stone with relative ease as neither black group is particularly strong. I'll do some more reading if black does indeed play like this.
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