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 Post subject: Re: 66. Shaddy(1d) vs. Chew Terr(5k)
Post #81 Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:34 am 
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$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . X O . O O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O X , O X O . O X X X . |
$$ | . . X . . . O X X X X X X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . O X . . . B O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Harleqin, is that for us to see?

I'll be a little embarassed if I die here, but it's certainly not decided yet. It helps that my opponent is attacking me with at least one group that's not yet really safe. Obviously he's safer than I am, though.

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Post #82 Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:48 pm 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . X O . O O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O X , O X O . O X X X . |
$$ | . . X . . . O X X X X X X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . O X . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . W . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


The bottom left corner group is not yet alive, nor is this group on the side. Even if he saves this side group, it will most likely be in gote, and I will kill the corner. I would kill the corner now, but letting this group off easy would be silly

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Post #83 Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:56 pm 
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$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . X O . O O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O X , O X O . O X X X . |
$$ | . . X . . . O X X X X X X B O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . O X . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Well, hopefully SOME of my stones live.

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Post #84 Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:21 pm 
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$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . . . . . O . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . X O . O O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O X , O X O . O X X X . |
$$ | . . X . . . O X X X X X X X O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . O X . . . X O . W . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Thank you!

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Post #85 Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:32 pm 
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$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . . . . . O . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . B . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . X O . O O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O X , O X O . O X X X . |
$$ | . . X . . . O X X X X X X X O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . O X . . . X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Ugh, I thought I had a followup, but it was a stupid misread. I'll play something to try to get out. I apologize for the poor quality of my moves.

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Post #86 Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:51 pm 
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$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . X O W O O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O X , O X O . O X X X . |
$$ | . . X . . . O X X X X X X X O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . O X . . . X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

No need to apologize

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Post #87 Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:00 pm 
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$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X B X . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . X O O O O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O X , O X O . O X X X . |
$$ | . . X . . . O X X X X X X X O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . O X . . . X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Here's the gote followup to the previous move that I knew I had to follow up with. I'm concerned about white's next move, but maybe I can threaten to cut something white off. Also, I'm trying to see if the clamp kills in the bottom left.

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Post #88 Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:11 pm 
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$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . W . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X X . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . X O O O O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O X , O X O . O X X X . |
$$ | . . X . . . O X X X X X X X O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . O X . . . X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #89 Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:23 pm 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X X . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . X O O O O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O X , O X O . O X X X . |
$$ | . . X . . . O X X X X X X X O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . O X . . . X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . B O . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Feel like letting me live in gote, or shallw e start the fight in earnest? I'm playing this move to prevent L1 in sente.

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Post #90 Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 4:15 pm 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X X . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . X O O O O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O X , O X O . O X X X . |
$$ | . . X . . . O X X X X X X X O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . O X . W . X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

When you tease the bull, you get the horns.

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Post #91 Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 4:53 pm 
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Now they're both in trouble over there :D

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Post #92 Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:42 pm 
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very intresting :)
my feeling is that black will not die if played optimally.

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Post #93 Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 7:25 am 
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[go]$$Bc Captures: B1
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$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X X . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . X O O O O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O X , O X O . O X X X . |
$$ | . . X . . . O X X X X X X X O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . O X . O . X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X C B . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Okay. This move threatens finishes what the previous one started: making an eye in sente. My opponent had an opportunity to remove all eyes, previously, so I needed to get one, at least. Obviously, if my opponent ignores, I capture and live. I'm working on trying to do the reading to see the best way to follow up. Unless my opponent stops to defend enough to let me live (not going to happen) it looks like somebody's going to die, inside of 20 moves or so. Odds are it's going to me. However, though I'm the underdog here, I feel like I have a shot. I'm not sure who would win if both players played flawlessly, but we won't. If I make less mistakes than my opponent somehow, I may kill this group and win.

Oh, Shaddy: in response to your Breakfast Club misquote, pretend I made a joke about Barry Manilow's wardrobe. =D

Also, sorry I've had a negative attitude occasionally during the game. I'm trying to work on it! This game is JUST a learning opportunity, so I should not get frustrated if I make mistakes.

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Post #94 Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:33 am 
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[go]$$Bc Captures: B1
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X X . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . X O O O O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O X , O X O . O X X X . |
$$ | . . X . . . O X X X X X X X O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . O X . O . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #95 Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:05 pm 
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[go]$$Bc Captures: B1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . B . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X X . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . X O O O O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O X , O X O . O X X X . |
$$ | . . X . . . O X X X X X X X O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . O X . O . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Okay, I think that this is my best chance. It's obvious what I'm going for, but I'm feeling iffy about getting it, of course. Let's do this.

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Post #96 Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:31 pm 
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[go]$$Bc Captures: B1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X X . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . X O O O O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O X , O X O . O X X X . |
$$ | . . X . . . O X X X X X X X O X O W . |
$$ | . . . . X O . O X . O . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Good move, I don't think I can kill it without adding this move. But that still leaves the bottom left..

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Post #97 Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:09 pm 
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Choices I'm considering:
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[go]$$Bc Captures: B1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . X . e O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X X d . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . X O O O O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O X , O X O c O X X X . |
$$ | . . X . . . O X X X X X X X O X O W . |
$$ | . . . . X O . O X . O . X O O O . a . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . b . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


a
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[go]$$Bc Captures: B1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X X . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . X O O O O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O X , O X O . O X X X b |
$$ | . . X . . . O X X X X X X X O X O W a |
$$ | . . . . X O . O X . O . X O O O c 1 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

'a' here seems to not work.
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[go]$$Bc diagram 'b'
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X X . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . X O O O O . . O X 3 . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O X , O X O . O X X X 2 |
$$ | . . X . . . O X X X X X X X O X O W . |
$$ | . . . . X O . O X . O . X O O O 4 1 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X 6 . 7 5 . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Bc diagram 'c'
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . X . . O X 8 9 |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X X . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . X O O O O . . O X 7 6 |
$$ | . . X O . X O O X , O X O . O X X X . |
$$ | . . X . . . O X X X X X X X O X O W 3 |
$$ | . . . . X O . O X . O . X O O O 2 1 5 |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . 4 . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


So, it seems like I may actually be able to keep my opponent to one eye in the corner. The question then is, can I prevent my opponent from getting another eye (or escaping) outside? If so, I can seriously try to kill, and not care what happens to the small bottom left corner.


b
'b' tries to do everything 'a' does, but I trust it less. I looked more exhaustingly at 'a', because it seems more forcing. If 'a' seems to read out okay, I am going to discard 'b'.


If I can reduce white in the corner to one eye:
Can I prevent white from getting an eye on the outside or escaping? If so, I have a worthy attempt to kill. Let's check it out.

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[go]$$Bc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . X b c O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X X . . a . O O X . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . X O O O O . . O X X . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O X , O X O . O X X X O |
$$ | . . X . . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . X X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I'm going to look at these options and possibly others, in my next post. Sorry for the double-post, but I want to show what I've got so far, since I don't think I'll have time to finish reading this out right now.


c-e: If I can't kill, I should start from one of these. 'c' is mostly only good in conjunction with 'a' or 'b' (or as a ko threat). 'd' protects that connection. 'e' helps the other connection while threatening stones. There are other places I'm considering also, but first I'm going


To be continued later, as I keep reading.

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Post #98 Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:29 pm 
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Hidden until you make your choice Chew :)

I like "e" best

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Post #99 Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:56 pm 
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[go]$$Bc Captures: B1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . O . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X X . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . X O O O O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O X , O X O . O X X X . |
$$ | . . X . . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . X O . O X . O . X O O O . B . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Okay, I can't read deeply enough to be certain that I can kill. But if I let him live, Shaddy has too many ways to cut, or threaten to. This is my line in the stand, and here is my fighting spirit.

Here is what I feel like:
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It'll be a long uphill battle with a million tiny ways to die. But if you make it... Hell, you're the guy who killed Dracula with a whip.

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Post #100 Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:59 pm 
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The reason I decided to play here instead is I was concerned that with 'e', I feared that I would capture those four stones while Shaddy made two eyes in the corner, then would have my largest group cut off and surrounded by Shaddy's now-living group.

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