mic, Puppycakes, good game.
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| Author: | mic [ Thu Apr 07, 2011 1:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | 111. mic vs Puppycakes |
Hi, have a good game.
I have not played for a few month and feel (and probably play) currently about two stones weaker than 7k. Since a Malkovich game lasts quite long this shouldn't be a problem in the long run, at least as long as I don't make any really bad mistakes in the opening. I'm currently trying to play games on KGS to get back to my old strength. |
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| Author: | EdLee [ Thu Apr 07, 2011 1:42 am ] |
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mic, Puppycakes, good game.
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| Author: | mic [ Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:44 am ] |
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EdLee wrote: mic, Puppycakes, good game. Thanks!
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| Author: | Puppycakes [ Thu Apr 07, 2011 6:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 111. mic vs Puppycakes |
Have a good game mic. Here's to a game with many mistakes that we can learn from.
Usually in a handicap game like this, I play something like this:
Or, I play like this:
I often leave the first stone as aji and then try to time when to move it better than my opponent times when to kill it. Or I just let them play a lot of inefficient moves in erasing the aji. Either way I feel satisfied. |
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| Author: | Chew Terr [ Thu Apr 07, 2011 7:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 111. mic vs Puppycakes |
Enjoy the game, both of you! I look forwards to watching. Puppycakes: That is actually nearly identical to my own approach to high-handicap games. For me, it tends to result in massive early violence, but that's most likely my own fault. =) |
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| Author: | mic [ Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 111. mic vs Puppycakes |
Thanks, puppycakes. And quite a nice motto for this game
I'll try to keep the game as simple as possible, since I'd probably be in disadvantage when the situations get too complicated, i.e. I don't play
(and so on) since it always leads to complicated fights (at least for me). |
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| Author: | Puppycakes [ Fri Apr 08, 2011 12:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 111. mic vs Puppycakes |
Handicaps are always intimidating to me. I don't know how to imagine winning, but somehow, with a difference in strength, it still sometimes happens. As you play, I think that sometimes you start to get a feel for what your opponent is weak at and then you try to exploit that. And you try to ask difficult questions and wait for them to answer wrong and then you take advantage. |
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| Author: | mic [ Sat Apr 09, 2011 5:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 111. mic vs Puppycakes |
I'm not sure if I should pincer here at  . With white's stone at F3 this looks too "fighty".
My response leaves (as far as I think) a few possiblities around A-D.
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| Author: | Puppycakes [ Sat Apr 09, 2011 10:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 111. mic vs Puppycakes |
This is a common way to play in handicap games. There is still room for black to invade my bottom side moyo and it's a pretty good move for black to close the corners because it gives territory and makes my moyo feel thinner. |
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| Author: | mic [ Sun Apr 10, 2011 11:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 111. mic vs Puppycakes |
White's response as expected. I'm not sure, if  is a bit too passive. |
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| Author: | EdLee [ Mon Apr 11, 2011 12:30 am ] |
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Another idea -- (a) and (b) directions are miai, and W has two holes at (c) and (d):
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| Author: | Puppycakes [ Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 111. mic vs Puppycakes |
Just trying to keep from having to invade a too ridiculously large moyo. I'm still in the stage of the game that this handicap is intimidating. |
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| Author: | mic [ Mon Apr 11, 2011 11:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 111. mic vs Puppycakes |
For the same reason as in the last move I avoid the pincer. I wish for this sequence,
although I'm sure puppycakes will do something else. Looks to good for black on the left side. If he doesn't play like this I have the chance to learn another response to this move  |
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| Author: | Puppycakes [ Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:15 am ] |
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| Author: | mic [ Tue Apr 12, 2011 3:08 am ] |
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| Author: | Puppycakes [ Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:15 am ] |
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I don't really want to just go along with his plans, so I'm going to try a move that he can't easily answer. Honestly, I'm not sure what the best answer is either, so I decided to go with this. |
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| Author: | mic [ Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 111. mic vs Puppycakes |
Hi, I have to think about this a little bit longer, but will reply as soon as I know what I should do Michael |
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| Author: | mic [ Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 111. mic vs Puppycakes |
Phew, to be honest I have no idea if this move is any good. The are too many variations with no clear outcome. At least feels solid and a bit less defensive than a.
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| Author: | EdLee [ Thu Apr 14, 2011 2:54 am ] |
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Hidden until upper left corner is completely settled:  seems to be a very occasional move -- only 4 games out of a database of 50,744 (1900, 1974, 1995, 1997) --compared to 115 games for at (a); then  at (b) or (c):
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| Author: | Puppycakes [ Thu Apr 14, 2011 11:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 111. mic vs Puppycakes |
I feel like this is more playing to prevent points for my opponent than it is to making my own points, but sometimes that's a not a much worse strategy. Anyhow, games like this are tough because I like to attack opponent stones and so I kind of hope that I can make that happen in this game. In handicap games, I don't like it as much when the opponent plays moves that promise to settle things rather quickly. |
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