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Offline Aidoneus
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Post #221 Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:00 pm 
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Today instead of food, I attach this photo.
I think it's quite an elegant entrance; OK to view the hidden photo. :)


It's very gold. ;-)
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Post #222 Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:16 pm 
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Aidoneus wrote:
It's very gold. ;-)
Hmmm, I just used the default camera settings on the iPhone.
I didn't do any white balancing. In real life,
it probably feels much less gold than a warm beige. :)
Gold never even occurred to me until your post. :)

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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O . X . . O . . X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . X . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . 1 X . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O X . . X . . . . . . X . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . X . O O . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . X O O O . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . , . . . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O . . . . . X O X O O . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X X O . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . X . . O . |
$$ | . . X X X O . O O X . . . . O X X O . |
$$ | . X O O X O . . . X . . X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
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Post #224 Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 10:38 pm 
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Hi Aidoneus, I just took a photo to show you the big differences
with another angle: the same wall tiles and floor tiles as the previous photo! OK to view it:
Zero gold: :)
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Offline Aidoneus
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Post #225 Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 6:27 am 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O . X . . O . . X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . X . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . O X . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O X . . X . . 1 . . . X . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . X . O O . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . X O O O . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . , . . . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O . . . . . X O X O O . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X X O . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . X . . O . |
$$ | . . X X X O . O O X . . . . O X X O . |
$$ | . X O O X O . . . X . . X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]


I wish I could play both J13 AND J15! ;-)
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Offline Uberdude
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Post #226 Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 7:51 am 
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Aidoneus wrote:
I wish I could play both J13 AND J15!

But you can't play both, so play the better one ;-)
White is trying to separate the two marked stones, j13 does a better job of connecting them.

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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O . X . . O . . X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . B . 1 . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . O B . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O X . . X . . . . . . X . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . X . O O . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . X O O O . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . , . . . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O . . . . . X O X O O . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X X O . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . X . . O . |
$$ | . . X X X O . O O X . . . . O X X O . |
$$ | . X O O X O . . . X . . X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]


Notice the bad shape of the broken elephant jump (http://senseis.xmp.net/?FourBasicShapes#toc4). (White might also simply j13 now).

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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O . X . . O . . X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . B . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O X . . . . 2 O X . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O X . . X . . B . . . X . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . X . O O . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . X O O O . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . , . . . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O . . . . . X O X O O . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X X O . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . X . . O . |
$$ | . . X X X O . O O X . . . . O X X O . |
$$ | . X O O X O . . . X . . X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]


A few moves ago:
Uberdude wrote:
If black tries to save the stick of 3 stones after white cuts I fear one or both of black's groups would die. It would be better for black to sacrifice the 3 for now and secure the top group whilst also attacking k17. Maybe white shouldn't cut but attack the whole thing (and strengthen k17 in the process).


Black is getting torn to shreds in this fighting.


Last edited by Uberdude on Thu Dec 04, 2014 7:57 am, edited 1 time in total.
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O . X . . O . . X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . X . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O X . . . . 1 O X . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O X . . X . . X . . . X . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . X . O O . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . X O O O . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . , . . . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O . . . . . X O X O O . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X X O . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . X . . O . |
$$ | . . X X X O . O O X . . . . O X X O . |
$$ | . X O O X O . . . X . . X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
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Offline Aidoneus
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Post #228 Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 8:35 am 
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I need to drink in order to watch the Chicago Bears this year!

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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O . X . . O . . X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . X . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O X . . . . O O X . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O X . . X . 1 X . . . X . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . X . O O . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . X O O O . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . , . . . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O . . . . . X O X O O . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X X O . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . X . . O . |
$$ | . . X X X O . O O X . . . . O X X O . |
$$ | . X O O X O . . . X . . X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]


While I first thought about playing K12 or even J9, I decided to go down fighting. But I'm not sure exactly what happens if White cuts now at K13. I think that either I capture the few stones above while he extends into the center, or I connect some of my stones and capture the cutting stone at K13. I shall remain an optimist until my deck is under water. ;-)
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Aidoneus wrote:
I need to drink in order to watch the Chicago Bears this year!
Why ? :)




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Hi Aidoneus, photo: :)
The actual faucet trim area is a bit dark,
but otherwise, quite clean design. :)
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Hi Aidoneus, Speaking of drinks... :)

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Not a bad place to play Go. :)
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Back to the food theme. :)
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Offline Aidoneus
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EdLee wrote:
Aidoneus wrote:
I need to drink in order to watch the Chicago Bears this year!
Why ? :)


To anesthetize the pain of watching them lose by such large margins!

Thanks for sharing your photos. I needed a vacation from cold and dreary Northwest Indiana, even if it is just vicarious. ;-)

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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O . X . . O . . X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . X . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O X . . . . O O X . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O X . . X 1 X X . . . X . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . X . O O . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . X O O O . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . , . . . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O . . . . . X O X O O . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X X O . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . X . . O . |
$$ | . . X X X O . O O X . . . . O X X O . |
$$ | . X O O X O . . . X . . X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
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Tricky.
With this variation, I'm not sure of the global result:
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O . X . . O . . X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . X . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O X . . 3 1 O O X . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O X . . X 2 X X . . . X . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . X . O O . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . X O O O . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . , . . . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O . . . . . X O X O O . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X X O . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . X . . O . |
$$ | . . X X X O . O O X . . . . O X X O . |
$$ | . X O O X O . . . X . . X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
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On :w57: = (a), I was not sure if B knew about :b2: .
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . X . . O . . X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X X O . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . X . . O . |
$$ | . . X X X O . O O X . . . . O X X O . |
$$ | . X O O X O . . . X . . X X X O O . . |
$$ | . 1 . . O 2 a . . . . . . X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
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Post #236 Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:35 pm 
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Maybe I'm delirious--I've had a cold/flu for the last three days--but it seems like you set a trap for me, and I'm not falling into it! :lol:

Then again, maybe the whiskey I'm drinking to knock me out for the night has me seeing phantoms...

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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O . X . . O . . X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . 1 , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . X . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O X . . . . O O X . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O X . . X O X X . . . X . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . X . O O . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . X O O O . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . , . . . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O . . . . . X O X O O . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X X O . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . X . . O . |
$$ | . . X X X O . O O X . . . . O X X O . |
$$ | . X O O X O . . . X . . X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]


I really thought about cutting at G14 but among other moves, including a counter cut at K13, it seemed that if White plays simply H16 still more of my stones would get cut off in a capturing race. After seeing some variations in Attack and Defense, I'm thinking of going back to add new insights to some of my earlier options. In particular, I saw another possible way of responding to the peep that got me into so much trouble!
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Go is full of surprises. I was reading forever the variations in post 234 versus the variations here:
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O . X . . O . . X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . X . 2 . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O X . . . 1 O O X . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O X . . X O X X . . . X . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . X . O O . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . X O O O . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . , . . . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O . . . . . X O X O O . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X X O . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . X . . O . |
$$ | . . X X X O . O O X . . . . O X X O . |
$$ | . X O O X O . . . X . . X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
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Hi Aidoneus, I'm 29k when it comes to drinks.
There must be some trade offs between the whiskey killing the germs and knocking you out. :)

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 Post subject: Re: #244 Bill vs Ed
Post #239 Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 3:31 am 
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An excellent move from Aidoneus. :clap:

But let's see if he can follow it up correctly...

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