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Author: | Kirby [ Tue Dec 15, 2015 8:30 pm ] |
Post subject: | MinjaeKim 5.5d vs. Kirby 3d (Tygem ranks) |
Hi, MinjaeKim. Have a good game. 잘 부탁 드립니다.
I don't know MinjaeKim very well - he's made a few posts on the forum. He said he's around 5 or 6d on Tygem. Back in August, when I was studying Go actively, I think I was around 4d on Tygem. Since then, I kind of snapped and stopped studying Go. So this game is more for him than for me - he wanted an opponent, and the forum has been kind of slow, lately. So I don't really expect to play well - even when I'm in good form, I'd probably lose to a 5d on Tygem. I don't mind that much, though. Part of the good thing about not studying Go is that, while you suck, you don't feel disappointment from trying and seeing fruitless results. |
Author: | MinjaeKim [ Tue Dec 15, 2015 8:44 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: MinjaeKim 5.5d vs. Kirby 3d (Tygem ranks) |
Have a good game! 한 수 부탁드립니다.
I almost exclusively play nirensei with both black and white. It's my favourite opening and I'm most comfortable with it. |
Author: | Kirby [ Tue Dec 15, 2015 9:40 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: MinjaeKim 5.5d vs. Kirby 3d (Tygem ranks) |
No special plan. |
Author: | MinjaeKim [ Tue Dec 15, 2015 10:43 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: MinjaeKim 5.5d vs. Kirby 3d (Tygem ranks) |
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Author: | EdLee [ Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:05 am ] |
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For observers: I'm not familiar with Tygem ratings. Does anyone else have a feel for the rough equivalents of a Tygem 3d and 5.5d relative to other ratings ? Example: versus KGS, IGS, AGA, BGA, etc. In this thread, a few weeks ago on Oct 22, an estimate: Kirby wrote: Depends on ranking system, but I'll say 2d |
Author: | andreyl [ Wed Dec 16, 2015 6:19 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: MinjaeKim 5.5d vs. Kirby 3d (Tygem ranks) |
@EdLee Tygem 5d is around kgs1-2d, tygem 3d might be around 2k-1d range |
Author: | EdLee [ Wed Dec 16, 2015 6:55 am ] |
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Andrey, Thanks. For :
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Author: | Kirby [ Wed Dec 16, 2015 7:45 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: MinjaeKim 5.5d vs. Kirby 3d (Tygem ranks) |
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Author: | MinjaeKim [ Wed Dec 16, 2015 8:11 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: MinjaeKim 5.5d vs. Kirby 3d (Tygem ranks) |
I tend to avoid Kobayashi, mini Chinese like the plague. |
Author: | Kirby [ Wed Dec 16, 2015 9:17 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: MinjaeKim 5.5d vs. Kirby 3d (Tygem ranks) |
Not much of a strategy - he didn't answer the approach, so I'll double approach. I could try to pressure his stone like this:
but my attack on the marked stone has to gain as many points as he got for free with here... So I'll just double approach for immediate profit. |
Author: | MinjaeKim [ Wed Dec 16, 2015 11:50 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: MinjaeKim 5.5d vs. Kirby 3d (Tygem ranks) |
Joseki. I'm attatching here because making the bottom side thick is more important than the left side since black has taken the bottom right corner. I want to reduce the potential of black's 3-4 stone. |
Author: | Kirby [ Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:12 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: MinjaeKim 5.5d vs. Kirby 3d (Tygem ranks) |
Still no real plan. Basically, I decide between taking the corner:
and playing on the bottom:
Latter seemed more interesting, so I'll go with it. |
Author: | MinjaeKim [ Wed Dec 16, 2015 2:09 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: MinjaeKim 5.5d vs. Kirby 3d (Tygem ranks) |
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Author: | Kirby [ Wed Dec 16, 2015 2:43 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: MinjaeKim 5.5d vs. Kirby 3d (Tygem ranks) |
Same idea as before. |
Author: | MinjaeKim [ Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:18 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: MinjaeKim 5.5d vs. Kirby 3d (Tygem ranks) |
Maybe he wants to play a complicated fighting joseki which continues after I block, but I'd not like that because then my pincer stone might get lonely. Below is a simple joseki pattern. I wonder if he'd follow this one.
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Author: | Kirby [ Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:47 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: MinjaeKim 5.5d vs. Kirby 3d (Tygem ranks) |
Hmm. I expected him to play here:
I'll think about this for a little bit. |
Author: | Kirby [ Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:25 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: MinjaeKim 5.5d vs. Kirby 3d (Tygem ranks) |
I guess I'll just respond locally, even though it's a different order. If he blocks the corner, I can proceed as I expected, and if he doesn't, I always have an out into the corner. |
Author: | MinjaeKim [ Wed Dec 16, 2015 6:31 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: MinjaeKim 5.5d vs. Kirby 3d (Tygem ranks) |
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Author: | Kirby [ Thu Dec 17, 2015 9:31 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: MinjaeKim 5.5d vs. Kirby 3d (Tygem ranks) |
I guess I'm OK with your trigger.
He added my atari automatically:
Seems somewhat reasonable, but sometimes it's bad to atari. I'm not sure in this case. It might be okay, though. If I didn't atari, I guess I'd just play solidly:
But then white kind of has sente and I have two unsettled groups. So maybe playing atari is good here. I need to take care of my group. So assuming I atari, I can continue with the idea of splitting his group:
Or I can jump into the corner:
If I continue with splitting, he'll probably hane. If he does, can I play 4, below(?):
If he cuts...
I dunno, white seems stronger. I guess I should just go into the corner. |
Author: | MinjaeKim [ Thu Dec 17, 2015 10:48 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: MinjaeKim 5.5d vs. Kirby 3d (Tygem ranks) |
Okay, so he chose to play a simple joseki. The game looks fine so far. |
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