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Redstone - Topazg vs. Dusk Eagle
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Author:  Dusk Eagle [ Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:24 pm ]
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[go]$$Bcm13 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . X O . |
$$ | . . O 3 . . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]

Hane?? Crosscut!!
Author:  topazg [ Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:47 pm ]
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[go]$$Bcm13 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 4 . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . X O . |
$$ | . . O 3 . . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]


Crosscut?? Atari!! ... no, wait :-?
Author:  Dusk Eagle [ Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:18 pm ]
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[go]$$Bcm13 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . 5 X O . X . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]
Author:  topazg [ Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:31 pm ]
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[go]$$Bcm13 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . 5 X O . X . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X 6 . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]


I've started, so I'll finish.
Author:  MarkSteere [ Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:40 pm ]
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How do we get this onto a Go server?
Author:  hyperpape [ Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:00 pm ]
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MarkSteere wrote:
How do we get this onto a Go server?
Kaya.gs is your best bet. They seem to be willing to try all sorts of things, and are aiming to have fairly open development. It's possible that someone who was interested could implement it. But it still might be a slim chance.
Author:  MarkSteere [ Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:59 pm ]
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I've sent them an email. Thanks for the tip.
Author:  Dusk Eagle [ Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:17 pm ]
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[go]$$Bcm19 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . X X O 1 X . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X O . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]

I don't have much time to comment, but here's a diagram of my thoughts:

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[go]$$Wcm1 :w1: at the blank point
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . 6 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 4 O 2 5 . . . . X . |
$$ | . X X O X X . . X O . |
$$ | . . O 3 O . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . + . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Wcm7 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . + . 8 a 6 7 . . . |
$$ | . X . X O 1 2 5 . X . |
$$ | . X X O X X 3 . X O . |
$$ | . . O O O 4 . , . O . |
$$ | . . . + . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]

Simultaneous capture if white plays 'a'.
Author:  topazg [ Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:59 am ]
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[go]$$Bcm19 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O 2 . . . . . X . |
$$ | . X X O 1 X . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X O . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]


Looks like a trade's on the table:

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[go]$$Bcm19 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O 2 . . . . . X . |
$$ | . X X O 1 X . . X O . |
$$ | . 4 O X O . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . 3 . 5 . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . 6 X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]
Author:  Dusk Eagle [ Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:26 am ]
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[go]$$Bcm21 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . X . |
$$ | . X X O X X . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X O . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . 1 . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]
Author:  topazg [ Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:42 pm ]
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[go]$$Bcm21 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . X . |
$$ | . X X O X X . . X O . |
$$ | . 2 O X O . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . 1 . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]


Didn't expect this ... I suppose I should work out what I'm doing now.
Author:  Dusk Eagle [ Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:01 pm ]
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Take your pick, if you want either one. It probably won't make a difference, but I just want to see how you play before I tenuki.

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[go]$$Bcm23 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 2 O O . . . . . X . |
$$ | . X X O X X . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X O . . , . O . |
$$ | . 1 3 X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bcm21 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . X . |
$$ | 2 X X O X X . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X O . . , . O . |
$$ | . 1 3 X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]
Author:  topazg [ Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:26 pm ]
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[go]$$Bcm21 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 4 O O . . . . . X . |
$$ | 6 X X O X X . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X O . . , . O . |
$$ | . 3 5 X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]


That sounds like I probably shouldn't :w26:, so I'll do it anyway and see what you have up your sleeve :)
Author:  Dusk Eagle [ Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:45 pm ]
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[go]$$Bcm27 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-2
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . X . |
$$ | + . . O X X . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X O . . , . O . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . . 1 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]

No, I don't really have anything planned for that group ;-) .

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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-2
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . X . |
$$ | + a b O X X . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X O . . , . O . |
$$ | c X X X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]

It's interesting how a black play at 'a' or 'b' takes away white's eye there, but I really don't have any way to use that right now as he can still easily make two eyes. However, he doesn't have the hane at 'c' as after the block and connect, I could play at 'a' or 'b' and set up simultaneous capture.
Author:  topazg [ Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:25 pm ]
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[go]$$Bcm27 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-2
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . X . |
$$ | + . . O X X . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X O . . , . O . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . 2 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . . 1 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]


Oh, phew :) Time to not die somewhere else then I hope!
Author:  Dusk Eagle [ Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:32 am ]
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[go]$$Bcm27 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-2
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . X . |
$$ | + . . O X X . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X O . . , . O . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . 3 . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]

Let's get messy. For science.
Author:  topazg [ Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:37 am ]
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[go]$$Bcm27 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-2
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . X . |
$$ | + . . O X X . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X O . . , . O . |
$$ | . X X X 4 . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . 3 . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]


FOR SCIENCE!
Author:  Dusk Eagle [ Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:47 am ]
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[go]$$Bcm31 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-2
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . X . |
$$ | + . . O X X . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X O . . , . O . |
$$ | . X X X O . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 1 O . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]

This move is for life, liberties, and happiness (in that if I don't play it, my group won't have much of any of them).
Author:  topazg [ Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:50 am ]
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[go]$$Bcm31 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-2
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . X . |
$$ | + . . O X X . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X O . 2 , . O . |
$$ | . X X X O . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 1 O . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]


This move is for pony! (I'm sorry if no-one gets the reference :P)
Author:  Dusk Eagle [ Thu Mar 01, 2012 1:35 pm ]
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[go]$$Bcm33 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-2
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . X . |
$$ | + . . O X X 1 . X O . |
$$ | . O O X O . O , . O . |
$$ | . X X X O . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]
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