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From 3 kyu to what dan in a year? Realistic, but ambitious. Last one might be too ambitious:).
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Post #1 Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 10:14 pm 
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I’ve recently been working towards a stable rank on OGS. Now, it’s pretty well established at 3 kyu. I use the same name there as I do here: AaronBC.

Starting today, I want to try hard to improve quickly. I’d like to know what you all think would be an ambitious goal to aim for in a year. Personally, I’m thinking at least two dan.

Here’s my plan:

I intend to play games a lot and review them with ai-sensei.

Also, I intend to do much tsumego. I’m thinking blacktoplay.com. Recommendations for other sites and books are welcome.

I think I’ll review some pro games on go4go.net. Maybe, I’ll also look at ai games on katagotraining.org.

I think I’ll also watch lectures, maybe starting with awesomebaduk.com.

Let me know your thoughts and suggestions.

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Post #2 Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2024 5:15 am 
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I consider it realistic when several players have done it before (albeit a small number of players).

I think 3k to 1d in a year is ambitious but realistic.
Similarly, improving 1 rank per year in the low dans is ambitious but realistic.

I know of only one player (Catalin Taranu) who reached 4d in 2 years (reaching 1d in 1 year).
In 8 years he reached 1p and in 12 years he reached 5p.
That high initial rate of progress is so rare that I would not consider it realistic for a 3k to reach 4d in 1 year, although perhaps it's not completely impossible.

How long did it take you to reach 3k from when you were a novice?

I see in your post history that you were already playing 2 years ago.
From that I'd say that reaching 1d in 1 year is probably too ambitious and not realistic.

Perhaps you should set your goal lower and nearer, like reaching 2k in 3 months, and go from there if you succeed.

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Post #3 Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2024 5:35 am 
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I think I got to kgs 1d in maybe two or three years, if I recall correctly. Then I stopped playing for some time and lost a considerable amount of strength.

I haven't had much progress since coming back, but I've mostly just been playing. We'll see how it goes with a lot of study.

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Post #4 Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2024 6:15 am 
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OK, if you already reached 1d in the past then reaching it again in 1 year seems a lot more realistic.
But I think setting your goal much higher is setting yourself up for disappointment.
And what would be the point even to set such a goal?

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Post #5 Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2024 6:24 am 
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I probably shouldn't have included 4 dan+, but I'm hoping for 2 or 3 dan.

Having an ambitious goal could motivate me to work harder.

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Post #6 Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2024 10:04 am 
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By the way, it has been several years since I was 1 dan.

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Post #7 Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2024 12:13 pm 
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AaronBC wrote:
I'm hoping for 2 or 3 dan.

I'm hoping for 7 dan, but I know that I won't actually spend the effort required, because I have a job, a family and I'm running a youth go club in my spare time.
So realistically, for me that 7 dan is more a dream than an ambition.

A bit more realistic would be to try to get back to 4d (which I was 20-15 years ago), but even that is very unlikely unless I start to spend a lot of time and effort to study go again.

But you may be in a much better position than me, with more time on your hands.

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Post #8 Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2024 6:55 pm 
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I work from home and don't have a wife or kids, so, I do have a lot of time to study.

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Post #9 Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2024 10:34 pm 
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If you want to improve fast, you may want to take go lessons, in which you play league games and get your games reviewed by a pro or high dan player, assuming you can afford them. AI is useful but a human can explain things in a more understandable way. In addition, having the goal to beat rivals can be a source of motivation.

As for how fast you can improve, that's impossible to predict. Looking at rank graphs of random people, I've seen people rise fast up to 3k and climb up until 1d much more slowly. On the other hand, Pavol Lisy has climbed all ranks between 15k and 6d at approximately the same pace.

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Post #10 Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2024 12:01 am 
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Thanks, jlt. Sounds like a good idea. I know of American Yunguseng Dojang, but it's too expensive at the moment.

Do you have any suggestions of whom to go with?

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Post #11 Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2024 12:59 am 
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I don't have good recommendations for you because I live in France, so I'm not aware of what is available in the US apart from AYD. I see that AYD is 145 USD for 1 month (5 game reviews + 3 lectures + lecture library). For information I've occasionally taken courses with
  • Lucas Neirynck, EGF 6d. For 75€ you get 5 league game reviews + 5 lectures, but that's in French.
  • 9-week program with JIGS. For 90€ you get 9 league game reviews + 9 lectures + tsumegos. Courses are in English, in the evening (European time) but they are recorded so you can watch them later, the main teacher is EGF 6d.
  • Polgote used to have an affordable online league, with reviews by 6d+ teachers, but it has been discontinued a few years ago.

I didn't try Yunguseng Dojang yet so I can't tell which one is best. Also, Nordic Go Dojo had an online league that I didn't use, but it has discontinued I think.

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