(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[10800] GN[British Championship Title Match]PW[Bruno Poltonieri]PB[Daniel Hu]WR[3d]BR[5d]DT[2021-11-27]PC[Cambridge UK]C[BGAAdmin [-\]: The game will be starting anytime now. Nigiri is complete, Daniel (5d) is black and Bruno (3d) is white. BGAAdmin [-\]: We are starting the game now. Enjoy. Commentary by Daniel Hu I spent more time preparing for this final than normal or was reasonable. It can be easy to get lost in the "beauty" of AI variations. Especially as I am looking for logic behind the AI's moves. But I don't know if it really paid off in strength. I'll keep a running total of my suboptimal moves and score lost with kg60s457 in the format RTM: number of suboptimal // sum of score lost // previous score loss ] ;B[qc]C[I did a little bit of analysis of this opening (but much more analysis of other normal openings). Black has more control over the opening, whereas White has to start more reactively. As Bruno played some 3-3's at the British Open, I thought to try it out. RTM: 1 // 0.2 // 0.2] ;W[dp] ;B[qq]C[ratatouile [-\]: The time setting's 3 hours absolute? RTM: 2 // 0.4 // 0.2] ;W[dd]C[W's high moves are a good counter strategy since B is pretty busy spending many moves on their right side to invade the left side.] (;B[pj]C[BGAAdmin [-\]: The time settings are Fischer 100 minutes + 45 seconds per move. For simplicity using 3 hours absolute time in the demo board. ratatouile [-\]: Ah, thank you for the information Goeland [1d\]: I like B opening Goeland [1d\]: never saw it before. BGAAdmin [-\]: It's a pleasant and homely environment where the game is being played. Both players intently focused. RTM: 3 // 0.6 // 0.2] (;W[fq] (;B[pd]C[RTM: 4 // 1.4 // 0.7] ;W[fc] (;B[pp]C[BGAAdmin [-\]: A very unique opening indeed. At least not something I have seen. RTM: 5 // 2.1 // 0.7 I played this because I had analysis katago's maximal aggression openings beforehand and this is one of its openings. I thought I would play these 5 moves and then play normally. At the lunch break I realised that this looked like sanrensei but not letting W get the 3-3 corners. Spending too many moves to do this is a little slow when W is getting the rest of the board even. Doing this is a little early.] (;W[kp]C[iceweasel [-\]: what does AI think about it? iceweasel [-\]: i imagine it would fine black corners suboptimal? BGAAdmin [-\]: Apologies for confusion. I had quieted the game, so your comments were not visible until now. Anyone can put in comments now. BGAAdmin [-\]: Please be respectful in your comments, and keep the comments relevant. liusasori [5d\]: here w is at 70% according to Leela iceweasel [-\]: quite suboptimal then... Uberdude [-\]: I am hosting an audio commentary of this game in the english game room ,please join from there or from y user info iceweasel [-\]: but b must be experienced with this style of play liusasori [5d\]: it's a 10% loss compared to optimal plays, which is very small for human W is playing perfect moves so far. This is best. ] (;B[mp]C[Woman [8k\]: black seems to be a little bit overconcentrated on the right, but it looks very solid I still hadn't quite stopped my aggression yet. k=4 RTM: 6 // 2.6 // 0.5] ;W[kd]C[ratatouile [-\]: So it depends on how well black reduces white's larger framework joejueli [4k\]: 10C I guess this is so important because if W adds a move around here then the 3-3 is really working. k=4 RTM: 7 // 2.6 // 0.5 ] (;B[cj]C[joejueli [4k\]: so I expected BGAAdmin [-\]: joejueli your prediction was accurate. k=4 RTM: 7 // 2.9 // 0.3 Suddenly a conservative move. I have made a critical analysis of this move elsewhere but it is still safer than other moves.] (;W[ch] (;B[cn]C[BGAAdmin [-\]: I have a feeling this game is going to involve a lot of fighting. What do you think? joejueli [4k\]: Most games are like that Uberdude [-\]: : I am hosting an audio commentary of this game in the english game room ,please join from there or from my user info BGAAdmin [-\]: If you want an exciting commentary on this game, please follow Uberdude's relay in the English game room. joejueli [4k\]: Has white played yet? BGAAdmin [-\]: W is about to play, but hasn't played yet. k=4 RTM: 7 // 2.9 // 0 ] (;W[co]C[slightly bad direction to push B out towards the weak L4 stone and help fix the C8 problem.] ;B[dn]C[ k=4 RTM: 7 // 2.9 // 0] (;W[cl]C[BGAAdmin [-\]: Can someone explain why kick at C5 and then invade at C8, instead of directly invading at C8? joejueli [4k\]: black might try taking the corner or smh sila [1d\]: I wondered also, especially as the kick gave b perfect shape sila [1d\]: or better put: a perfect extension VIXX [9d?\]: not so perfect when both c5 and c12 are present VIXX [9d?\]: only when either one or the other is :) I thought this was the best move and went into a long think because I didn't see a good way to deal with it.] (;B[dl]C[ratatouile [-\]: Hmmm... Will white descend at b8 now? BGAAdmin [-\]: with the corner aji and big gap between F3 and L4, White would have to be careful taking that line of play. I feel. Woman [8k\]: or hane ? k=4 RTM: 8 // 4.9 // 2 why exactly is this so bad here? I guess it is overconcentrated with D6 and with C12, W's sente at D9, E8 can directly connect to C12 as well as work with L16.] (;W[bl]C[ratatouile [-\]: Yay~ BGAAdmin [-\]: Spot on ratatouille. ] (;B[dk] ;W[bn]C[VIXX [9d?\]: both possible, but i much prefer hane as usual, b would have to live small, w gets to make good use of the corner extensions VIXX [9d?\]: whereas now there's plenty of room in the center for b to manage the floating group BGAAdmin [-\]: I suppose the big benefit for B is that it has sente in this variation, so it can manage the group? Superkladd [-\]: Go Bruno!! ] (;B[go]C[BGAAdmin [-\]: On this board, the L4 N4 exchange seems good for white. What do you think? BGAAdmin [-\]: For those of you just joining, Uberdude is going an audio commentary in the English game room. joejueli [4k\]: White is winning liusasori [5d\]: lol ratatouile [-\]: Game's still long liusasori [5d\]: way too early to say this ratatouile [-\]: Surely it's premature to call a player's winning liusasori [5d\]: You can say w is ahead, but not that w is winning k=5 RTM: 9 // 5.3 // 0.4] ;W[hp]C[ratatouile [-\]: Is white even really ahead? VIXX [9d?\]: should be a little given w's slightly more efficient opening, but not sure after b8 This move has already fixed most of the chance of the D4 getting surrounded. I still have some aji of living in the corner or cutting if I get F5. This shape is too ideal for W.] (;B[kq]C[VIXX [9d?\]: then again, b likely picked a strategy knowing that, and determining that it's likely to pay off despite eager percentages liusasori [5d\]: w at 68% according to leela, so basically w has a 2 points lead wolokom [4k\]: oynly? liusasori [5d\]: yes, b hasn't make big mistake so it's normal k=5 RTM: 10 // 7.1 // 1.8 bad because it is gote and conflicting direction. I thought W at N3 was too perfect, but this has no real follow up yet. It makes G5 look silly. In Chinese this is called "brothers fighting". The problem with my idea of attacking around D2 is that with H4 (and H5 follow up) the whole W shape from B8 to H4 is pretty much connected, so I can't attack on a large scale.] ;W[jq] ;B[lq]C[BGAAdmin [-\]: is any move other than white K2 even worth considering? BGAAdmin [-\]: tenuki? ] (;W[ho]C[VIXX [9d?\]: k2? for what purpose though? BGAAdmin [-\]: is k2 too small? ratatouile [-\]: It's not small per se, just not urgent ratatouile [-\]: Black doesn't need to respond to it W's worst move so far] (;B[hn]C[Burton [5k\]: w looks a little better here am i right? VIXX [9d?\]: yup, gote and slow, more like a yose move at this point BGAAdmin [-\]: thanks ratatouille and VIXX. VIXX [9d?\]: since both groups are mostly settled Burton [5k\]: if w invades on the right side wont b be behind? Lilou30k [30k?\]: hard to find an invade on right Xann [1d\]: you'll see them when you are 29k BGAAdmin [-\]: Bruno (white) has used up 40 minutes main time, and Daniel (black) has used up 23 minutes. k=5 RTM: 11 // 7.4 // 0.3 ] (;W[in]C[Burton [5k\]: since w is a stronger player i believe w will win in this position BGAAdmin [-\]: White is 3dan, and Black is 5dan. Burton [5k\]: lol sorry Burton [5k\]: very early morning here. lol joejueli [4k\]: 8pm here joejueli [4k\]: 8:13 to be exact VIXX [9d?\]: now would be a strange time to invade though, since b would get more influence in the center, thus reducing what w can gain from this attack Burton [5k\]: thanks ic even the game wasn't a good exchange, but B can fight here. k=5 RTM: 11 // 7.4 // 0.3] (;B[hm]C[k=5 RTM: 12 // 9.9 // 2.5 Black should have aimed at J7, and I was thinking perhaps H8 to prepare instead, but this was slack, especially if I plan to live in the corner.] ;W[im] ;B[hl]C[VIXX [9d?\]: if anything i'd likely consider the cap at o10 instead in preparation VIXX [9d?\]: that is, a couple of moves earlier, b's group is almost settled here BGAAdmin [-\]: The cap at O10 is such a bold move. Exciting. ratatouile [-\]: Feels like black got the better end of the deal here ratatouile [-\]: White's influence isn't particularly striking joejueli [4k\]: Maybe white should try getting as much as the middle as possible by going at around J12 another push can be met by tenuki. I'll try to show only key variations from here on with more wordy analysis as hints.] ;W[eh]C[Uberdude [-\]: Reminder I (Andrew Simons 4d, former British Champion) am doing an audio commentary, check my info or the english game room Contradictory to attack a living B group from all sides] ;B[md]C[BGAAdmin [-\]: I personally learned my basics of Go from Andrew. He is an amazing commentator. You should watch his commentary. Uberdude [-\]: I suppose I also taught Daniel :) BGAAdmin [-\]: :) wow. amazing. VIXX [9d?\]: hmm, maybe w felt there's bad aji around e3, otherwise the h5 h6 j6 h7 j7 makes b's weak group strong, and w's strong group a tad stronger, but without much gain at all in the center Uberdude [-\]: yes, directly e10 without the h5 exchanges would have been better Uberdude [-\]: then white would have attacked form above if b tenuki, rather than push from behind and give black eyes k=6 RTM: 13 // 10.8 // 0.9 W has a strength in the centre from the weakness of the H8 group, so why is B trying to build a moyo still? Remember that L16 is a weak stone.] ;W[kf]C[VIXX [9d?\]: direction of play, challenging at all levels :) VIXX [9d?\]: yep BGAAdmin [-\]: To remind folks, we are using Fischer time, 100 minutes main time, with 45 seonds per move. Bruno (white) has 51 minutes remaining, and Daniel (black) has 73 minutes remaining. VIXX [9d?\]: i would have loved to play something like f9 or g8 against that group ratatouile [-\]: Looks rather peaceful aggressive? Threatening the H8 group from afar but not really yet.] ;B[bf]C[ratatouile [-\]: Of course I had to jinx it... psychonaut [1k\]: Is Daniel Hu the strongest British go player? BGAAdmin [-\]: I felt the jumps at E12 and L14 were inefficient. Thoughts? TruePlay [?\]: I think they are normal in this kind of position BGAAdmin [-\]: Daniel won against a 7d in London go open a couple years ago, and then also beat a European pro. If not the strongest, he is one of the top players. psychonaut [1k\]: oke thank you Lilou30k [30k?\]: which one? BGAAdmin [-\]: On Daniel's EGD page with PIN 17213581, I can see he has win records against Tanguy and Pavol. Experts, please feel to correct me if I'm wrong. VIXX [9d?\]: inefficient? not sure. main problem to me is that they're not sente and lack a good follow up, and it's arguably a little premature to commit to going for territory around g15 Uberdude [-\]: Pavol Lisy and Tanguy le Calve Uberdude [-\]: he also beat ben0 Uberdude [-\]: Yes I would say Daniel is the strongest active british nationality go player right now, though there are also lots of strong chinese students Uberdude [-\]: One of them beat him and won the British open last month k=6 RTM: 14 // 12.1 // 1.3 much too low and with B8 solid and low, this is bad direction.] ;W[ce] ;B[bh]C[Goprince [5d\]: c13 looks so slack VIXX [9d?\]: however i wouldn't consider them inefficient or small, just a bit slow VIXX [9d?\]: which isn't necessarily bad. slow can be good Goprince [5d\]: slow is always negative in Go i believe TruePlay [?\]: now white has to invade the right side Goprince [5d\]: otherwise say something like thick or solid k=5 RTM: 15 // 12.8 // 0.7] ;W[cg]C[joejueli [4k\]: it isn't really BGAAdmin [-\]: so the question is whether B will play B13 or B11 right? or are you folks considering tenuki? joejueli [4k\]: B11 joejueli [4k\]: wait joejueli [4k\]: either is fine There is a cutting point ] ;B[bg]C[joejueli [4k\]: bruh he connected joejueli [4k\]: what if white goes at B10? BGAAdmin [-\]: The problem is that W has a cut at B5 joejueli [4k\]: oh overly patient and heavy for a non-living group. I realised this quickly enough in the post game review but ... k=5 RTM: 16 // 15.4 // 2.6] ;W[en]C[ratatouile [-\]: Oh wow ratatouile [-\]: Not sure if it's a good move, but it's exciting to see joejueli [4k\]: I don't really understand why white went there joejueli [4k\]: a bit peculiar terrible move but not as bad as B13. It doesn't fix the B7 problem. ] ;B[eo]C[ratatouile [-\]: Probably wants to get sente protection at b5 ratatouile [-\]: Through some exchanges or something joejueli [4k\]: ic ratatouile [-\]: That way b10 can become an option joejueli [4k\]: white'll probably go at d5 if that's what he wants to do Uberdude [-\]: when wil the sealed move for lunch be? Superkladd [-\]: 13:30 UK time, right? VIXX [9d?\]: hmm, i also consider a move to be slow when it prioritizes said thickness or solidity over faster development VIXX [9d?\]: slack moves are similarly not always bad joejueli [4k\]: how much time do they have left? BGAAdmin [-\]: That is correct, the sealed move for lunch will be at 13:30 UTC (UK time), which is in about 40 minutes from now. BGAAdmin [-\]: Bruno (white) has 34 minutes left, and Daniel (black) has 70 minutes left. VIXX [9d?\]: daniels are often really good at something Superkladd [-\]: Bruno is definitely spending too much time joejueli [4k\]: I think white might go at d7 in the end joejueli [4k\]: wait no that'll give him more cuts Goprince [5d\]: w aiming at b10 VIXX [9d?\]: as are andrews Warfreak2 [-\]: :thinking: Goprince [5d\]: no cut at B5 now VIXX [9d?\]: it's a powerful name and starts with an A VIXX [9d?\]: so you get picked first BGAAdmin [-\]: Lunch break will be from 13:30 UTC (UK time) to 14:30 UTC, total of 1 hour. joejueli [4k\]: Bruno is taking so long to play a move joejueli [4k\]: is there any byo-yomi in fishcer time or whatever that is? ratatouile [-\]: No byo-yomi, but you add seconds for every move you play. In this particular tourney, every move gives you extra 45 seconds ratatouile [-\]: Correct me if I'm wrong though! joejueli [4k\]: oh i see joejueli [4k\]: kind of like giving yourself byo yomi BGAAdmin [-\]: ratatouile, that explanation of Fischer time, and how it applies in this game is correct. Goprince [5d\]: wow 45 sec fisher... this is like a 10 hr game joejueli [4k\]: bruhh VIXX [9d?\]: yeah it's basically like chess time settings Superkladd [-\]: Is Bruno walking around a lot or mainly just sitting by the board? BGAAdmin [-\]: I assumed that W would obviously play D5 Goprince [5d\]: b should b10 now imo Goprince [5d\]: white* joejueli [4k\]: so you're saying the cut at b5 will be useless? Goprince [5d\]: yes joejueli [4k\]: ig Goprince [5d\]: B5 c7 joejueli [4k\]: yeah it's actually kinda useless VIXX [9d?\]: d5? not obvious, but well spotted BGAAdmin [-\]: The players are intensely focused on the game, glued to their seats. Superkladd [-\]: Bruno's plan going into the game was to use the long time settings to his advantage by taking several breaks, and for Daniel to hopefully overthink Superkladd [-\]: Seems like that didn't really work out ratatouile [-\]: If anything, Bruno's the one who seems to be overthinking, considering the time spent joejueli [4k\]: So you are saying he already knows where to go but he is just sitting there doing nothing? BGAAdmin [-\]: in any case, the move at E6, if it works is fascinating. I would have never thought of that. psychonaut [1k\]: they must be hungry VIXX [9d?\]: d5 e7 fixes the weakness without losing sente, it's certainly creative k=5 RTM: 17 // 16.1 // 0.7 this is not a big move when W still has the B11 move. I suppose psychologically I left it as a trap without realising it.] ;W[oj]C[joejueli [4k\]: Daniel must be bored waiting Superkladd [-\]: Well that's surprising joejueli [4k\]: it's also a sente Superkladd [-\]: Maybe he thinks it'll be hard to play the ko starting at b10 ratatouile [-\]: White likes flashy moves joejueli [4k\]: black would probably just extend out on either side BGAAdmin [-\]: I wonder why do this now, instead of reserving the possibility of invasion later at R8 or similar. VIXX [9d?\]: not sure either; this would have been an interesting idea before the h5 exchanges VIXX [9d?\]: putting slightly more pressure on d8 VIXX [9d?\]: (without losing sente, it's hard for b not to respond locally) very bad locally and not many ko threats] ;B[ok]C[TimHunt [?\]: What do we think of the balance of territory, if B gets 4th line territory all along the right? k=7 RTM: 17 // 15.6 // 0.2] (;W[pi] ;B[qi]C[k=8] (;W[oi]C[correct, though I didn't realise it even in the post game review] ;B[qh]C[joejueli [4k\]: i wonder how much time Bruno has left BGAAdmin [-\]: I have a feeling B will get 5th line territory on the right side. White's center is easy to reduce, so overall I personally prefer B. BGAAdmin [-\]: Bruno (white) has 21 minutes left, and Daniel (black) has 68 minutes left. TimHunt [?\]: B10 is a big endgame move. joejueli [4k\]: bruh Bruno used up less time then i expected Burton [5k\]: should w invade now arround r 8? joejueli [4k\]: kind of risky VIXX [9d?\]: hmm, maybe w has decided that forcing moves around g9 will make the trade worthwhile VIXX [9d?\]: not easy to tell Uberdude [-\]: Reminder, audio commentary by me, Andrew Simons 4d in my demo in english game room VIXX [9d?\]: bummer that i couldn't hear a thing haha, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't joejueli [4k\]: then white should secure the middle as much as possible BGAAdmin [-\]: After difficult Covid times, it feels so comforting to watch a live game on a proper goban. The awesomeness of this environment is unbearable. k=8 RTM: 18 // 15.8 // 0.2] ;W[bj] ;B[bi]C[bad heavy exchange to get cut off in ko. Black could have prevented being cut in sente or sacrificed this group for the corner. k=9 RTM: 19 // 16.0 // 0.2 ] ;W[ci] ;B[bk] ;W[ck] ;B[aj] ;W[dj] (;B[bj]C[joejueli [4k\]: is white or black in danger? motowan: b has a ko to live joejueli [4k\]: will black be able to win it? joejueli [4k\]: not a lot of sentes VIXX [9d?\]: lots and lots of sentes for both joejueli [4k\]: oh Equisde [1d\]: Who is the players? I am on app and can't see Jelle [3k\]: White is Bruno Poltonieri and Black is Daniel Hu. BGAAdmin [-\]: Black is Daniel Hu (5d) and white is Bruno Poltonieri (3d). Equisde [1d\]: Thanks ❤️ heavy and bad timing. k=9 RTM: 21 // 17.6 // 1.6] (;W[dm] ;B[em]C[VIXX [9d?\]: w has a lot of threats around q9, esp since the ladder works for w in both directions Superkladd [-\]: Don't think w can play the ko, so he somehow has to turn this into an attack on h8 group VIXX [9d?\]: why not? Superkladd [-\]: B should have a lot of local threats, and I'm not sure w can find enough on the outside VIXX [9d?\]: w does have local threats too VIXX [9d?\]: against e7 BGAAdmin [-\]: W has everything except much time on the clock. White has 9 minutes, and black has 71 minutes. Superkladd [-\]: Oh geez, he's way too low on time Gorim [1k\]: how many games will they play ? Only one? Superkladd [-\]: Yes, only one BGAAdmin [-\]: yes indeed only one game. joejueli [4k\]: White can go anytime within those nine minutes to regain time again though ] (;W[cm] ;B[fn]C[Superkladd [-\]: e10 into ko? ] (;W[ej]C[VIXX [9d?\]: ah, b can ignore this and let w capture VIXX [9d?\]: for the corner BGAAdmin [-\]: ok we will now be sealing a move and entering pausing for 60 minutes for lunch. BGAAdmin [-\]: Daniel has provided a sealed move, which we will reveal once lunch time is over. Superkladd [-\]: I guess w will give up top left corner during the ko to capture at e8, then start an attack on h8 group BGAAdmin [-\]: Enjoy your lunch / dinner / breakfast whereever you are in the world. joejueli [4k\]: is it 13:32? joejueli [4k\]: or 33 joejueli [4k\]: if so my time is 8 hours ahead joejueli [4k\]: well I have to go bye joejueli [4k\]: nvm joejueli [4k\]: hi again weleje [?\]: Question form Coventry tournament Is it lunch? Uberdude [-\]: yes Uberdude [-\]: from 1:30 to 2:30 weleje [?\]: cheers Uberdude [-\]: BGAAdmin, when you return can you please ask ngarry to event my demo. He has refused my request to do so Uberdude [-\]: hopefully your account carries more weight BGAAdmin [-\]: Alright, we are going to start in another 5 minutes or so. To remind folks, this is a Fischer time game with 100 minutes main time, and 45 seconds per move. Daniel (5d, black) has 69 minutes left, and Bruno (3d, white) has around 9 minutes. Before the lunch break, Daniel sealed a move, which we will reveal as soon as we resume. ratatouile [-\]: Nice k=9 RTM: 22 // 18.0 // 0.4 too gote] (;B[bm]C[BGAAdmin [-\]: Ok we have started now. Enjoy the rest of the game. poor play to miss the best move but I had just a few seconds before the lunch break. k=9 RTM: 22 // 18.0 // 0.4] ;W[am] ;B[al] ;W[ak] ;B[fk]C[ratatouile [-\]: Huh. a8 instead of a7 wasn't an option for white? Uberdude [-\]: most definitely was k=10 RTM: 23 // 20.3 // 2.3 a8 was possible in which case both G9 and E4 are sente, but after A7, I shouldn't save D8 yet.] ;W[be] ;B[al] ;W[pk] ;B[qj] ;W[ak] ;B[bo] ;W[do]C[terrible move that makes the ko much bigger.] ;B[en] ;W[bp] ;B[al]C[Uberdude [-\]: i am about to resume my audio commentary ] ;W[nk] ;B[ol]C[k=10 RTM: 26 // 28.2 // 7.9] ;W[ak]C[Uberdude [-\]: audio only works in cgoban client, not shin kgs web client Uberdude [-\]: would it be useful if I also streamed on youtube? BGAAdmin [-\]: seems like B has no big enough ko threats. BGAAdmin [-\]: only local ko threats left. tunturi [3d\]: e16 eclipse: what is white's ko threat if he doesn't want to let b live after a14 eclipse: sorry just joined eclipse: w can take sente and tell black to count it eclipse: 89.5 79 I get ] (;B[cf]C[eclipse: connet k=4 RTM: 27 // 30.0 // 1.8 not so bad. I thought I didn't want to play A14 and that even if die, it creates a lot of aji.] ;W[ao] ;B[df]C[eclipse: this just looks like all in bert [?\]: is daniels nick here hu? Picaro6 [5k\]: Yes, please stream on YouTube! Ps is this game 1? Thanks. eclipse: e13 and can black make a second eye ] (;W[fg]C[Superkladd [-\]: This looks like a very good chance for w. Just too bad he's low on time Burton [5k\]: Final game i think eclipse: i it best of 3? Superkladd [-\]: best of one Picaro6 [5k\]: Wow, normally three Burton [5k\]: no one game only eclipse: ok, thanks both Superkladd [-\]: The players decided together to just play one game ] (;B[ed]C[Picaro6 [5k\]: Bruno looks like he’s got a good chance here… eclipse: f13 was my second choice but I thought e13 = zero bad aji bad exchange and unnecessary when D15 is always sente. k=4 RTM: 28 // 31.4 // 1.4] ;W[ec] ;B[ff]C[eclipse: e13 - e14 follow up being the point Uberdude [-\]: livestream of my commentary on youtube: https://youtu.be/ehcEMoL2tKQ Uberdude [-\]: for people in shin kgs, or who want to see my handsome face! Picaro6 [5k\]: Amazing, thank you! ] (;W[fd] (;B[gf]C[k=4 RTM: 30 // 31.6 // 0.2] (;W[hh] (;B[hg]C[k=4 RTM: 31 // 32.7 // 1.1] ;W[ih] ;B[ig]C[BGAAdmin [-\]: This game is super exciting now. Bruno has 2.5 minutes on the clock remaining, and Daniel has 69 minutes remaining. tunturi [3d\]: lol Picaro6 [5k\]: Brutal Picaro6 [5k\]: Come on Bruno! eclipse: is it 1 minute byo? BGAAdmin [-\]: It is FIscher time, where each player gets 45 seconds added to the clock for each move they play. eclipse: ah right, thanks eclipse: white has to be careful of g12 k=12 RTM: 31 // 32.7 // 0.7] (;W[jh]C[eclipse: can black just make the eye with k15 j15 h16 idea play g13 and lose the aji ] (;B[he]C[best for territory. The game is still closish.] (;W[if]C[k=13] (;B[hc]C[k=13 RTM: 32 // 34.9 // 2.2] ;W[id] (;B[hd] ;W[ic] ;B[ib] ;W[jb] ;B[hb]C[BGAAdmin [-\]: Interesting side note. The first 100 moves of the game are over. No pun intended, but both players are focusing on the bottomline. ] (;W[mc] (;B[kb]C[k=17 RTM: 33 // 36.2 // 1.3] (;W[jc] ;B[lc] ;W[ld] ;B[mb] ;W[nc] (;B[nd]C[k=18 RTM: 34 // 36.4 // 0.2 not bad to lose the semeai since W must take gote and lose points in the upper left too.] ;W[kc] ;B[lb] ;W[ka] (;B[fb]C[k=17 RTM: 35 // 36.7 // 0.3] ;W[eb] ;B[fa] ;W[ea] ;B[gc] ;W[nl] ;B[om]C[tunturi [3d\]: e14 ? ] ;W[nm] ;B[on]C[tunturi [3d\]: ??? ] ;W[oc] ;B[od] (;W[pb] ;B[nb]C[good shape, 2 points better than R18] ;W[ob]C[Uberdude [-\]: clock check please ] (;B[ia]C[k=16 RTM: 36 // 41.9 // 5.2 R18 is a 14 point move if the R14 area was sealed off. Since it isn't sealed off, maybe R18 is smaller since if W plays R14 and B tenukis, W's follow up helps B get thicker around R14. Still, this is a silly blunder that only gets less than 1 point more locally. Totally we get 7- - 2/3 is about a 6 point move size (but less due to above point)] ;W[na]C[k=16 RTM: 37 // 45.8 // 3.9] ;B[og]C[BGAAdmin [-\]: Daniel has 68 minutes left, Bruno has around 1.5 minutes left. Defensive as still W O13 is annoying and if W Q13 then that is cut so not much better than W playing first here. However it remains a mistake as it is overconcentrated with the R18 weakness. I seem to have forgotten to record it as a mistake though.] ;W[fp]C[bad exchange] ;B[ek] (;W[ee] ;B[ef] ;W[jr]C[I vaguely remember counting this after I played L3 as a swing of around 20 points.] (;B[il]C[BGAAdmin [-\]: Does anyone know what AI has to say? k=12 RTM: 37 // 43.7 // 1.8 slow but I didn't realise at the time since I felt B wasn't alive. ] (;W[lp]C[not a bad move though I was a bit unsure about it. At least W's play wasn't consistent.] (;B[nq]C[prevents the monkey jump k=10 RTM: 38 // 43.9 // 0.2 ] (;W[jl] ;B[jk] ;W[kk] (;B[ij]C[ k=12 RTM: 39 // 47.4 // 3.5 ] ;W[jj] ;B[ik]C[ k=8 RTM: 40 // 48.2 // 0.8] (;W[kj] (;B[lo]C[ k=8 RTM: 41 // 48.6 // 0.4] (;W[ko]C[bert [?\]: beep beep bleep? ] (;B[kr]C[ k=8 RTM: 42 // 49.0 // 0.4] (;W[gj]C[BGAAdmin [-\]: Daniel has 66 minutes left, and Bruno has 2 minutes left. But looks like we are in end-game. ] (;B[gk]C[ k=8 RTM: 43 // 52.7 // 3.7] ;W[qb] ;B[js]C[k=9] ;W[is] ;B[ks]C[TheThe [2k\]: SE says w+77 TheThe [2k\]: not sure that counts for AI ;-) xff [1k\]: f8 TheThe [2k\]: f8 h10 ? ] (;W[rc]C[bad locally (only an extra 6 points in gote)] ;B[rd] ;W[sb] ;B[ir] (;W[iq] ;B[hs] (;W[gr] (;B[ln]C[ k=12 RTM: 44 // 52.8 // 0.1] (;W[kn]C[Copeau [10k?\]: A15 Copeau [10k?\]: or T16 Nyanjilla [-\]: do not trust the SE.... Nyanjilla [-\]: ...unless you want a laugh bert [?\]: se is over 30 ] (;B[jm]C[k=12 RTM: 45 // 53.1 // 0.3 good tesuji locally as later if B has M7, this is met by K6] ;W[kl]C[Nyanjilla [-\]: it doesn't see the central black group as alive ] (;B[lm]C[k=11 RTM: 46 // 53.6 // 0.5] (;W[sd] (;B[re]C[I counted ko threats and decided I didn't really have any while W has O6, N2, etc. k=12 RTM: 47 // 53.7 // 0.1] ;W[se] ;B[sf] ;W[sc] ;B[rf] (;W[hj]C[basically a pass move] ;B[jn] ;W[io] ;B[km]C[gotedeath [9k?\]: kiiiiiillllllllll ] ;W[hr]C[TheThe [2k\]: SE is racist? ;-) TheThe [2k\]: w+15 ] (;B[fj]C[apparently lower wp but after going one move ahead, it agrees my sequence so I won't mark this as a mistake] ;W[fi] ;B[eg]C[Javaness [2d\]: black plays a bit like paul prescott today BGAAdmin [-\]: playing kikashi before going back to defend? TimHunt [?\]: OGS AI thinks B+5 ] (;W[dh]C[-4 pretty serious mistake though I didn't fully punish it. Letting me prevent G13 (which captures around 7 points) in sente + I get J11. W has only prevented something like 4 points in reverse sente.] ;B[gh] ;W[gi] ;B[ii] ;W[fh] ;B[gg] ;W[hi] (;B[nh]C[k=16 RTM: 47 // 53.7 // 0.6] ;W[nn] ;B[no] ;W[mi] (;B[cc]C[BGAAdmin [-\]: B seems to have gained quite some in endgame, no? k=15 RTM: 48 // 54.0 // 0.3 locally risky and not necessarily better than B17] ;W[bc] ;B[bb]C[ k=15 RTM: 49 // 54.6 // 0.6] (;W[bd] ;B[cb] (;W[ab] (;B[de]C[no loss so I won't count very small suboptima] ;W[cd]C[Javaness [2d\]: evidently ] (;B[ni] ;W[nj] ;B[mh]C[bert [?\]: so what about f8 now? ] ;W[lh] (;B[lg] (;W[kh] ;B[mj]C[ k=18 RTM: 50 // 55.3 // 0.7 apparently M8 directly is already sente and M14 wasn't as big as I thought because I responded wrong in the game.] ;W[li] ;B[ll] ;W[lk]C[TheThe [2k\]: good question huffle [1d\]: seki Burton [5k\]: i think f5 w sente ] (;B[fe]C[k=17 RTM: 51 // 56.1 // 0.8] (;W[mf]C[-1] (;B[mg]C[psychonaut [-\]: eh tea break? k=17 RTM: 52 // 58.0 // 1.9 bad to save this as B can play K13 to aim at K15.] ;W[me]C[k=17 RTM: 51 // 56.1 // 1.9] ;B[fo] ;W[of]C[BGAAdmin [-\]: no tea break, but it is acceptable to have tea during the game. :) psychonaut [-\]: I like herb tea ] (;B[pg]C[BGAAdmin [-\]: Daniel has 71 minutes left on the clock, and Bruno has 6.5 minutes left. psychonaut [-\]: kurkuma with lemon and mint bert [?\]: Herb is not giving his tea. psychonaut [-\]: indeed its no real tea bert k=15 RTM: 53 // 58.3 // 0.3] (;W[pf]C[BGAAdmin [-\]: Another ko about to erupt ] ;B[nf] ;W[ne] ;B[oe] ;W[ng]C[Javaness [2d\]: are the players paid per ko ] (;B[ra]C[BGAAdmin [-\]: they are not paid at all. :) bert [?\]: depends on their threats ] ;W[rb] ;B[nf] ;W[pc] ;B[qd] ;W[ng] ;B[ep] ;W[eq] ;B[nf] ;W[ga] ;B[gb] ;W[ng] ;B[ja] ;W[ma]C[Javaness [2d\]: white cant win this ko surely ] ;B[nf]C[gotedeath [9k?\]: truth ] ;W[fl] ;B[ng] ;W[gm] ;B[gl]C[TheThe [2k\]: hm ] ;W[fm] ;B[lf] ;W[le] ;B[jg] ;W[jf] (;B[ae]C[eclipse: 64.5 70 I get gotedeath [9k?\]: b big win even if top left pts eclipse: 0h komi :)) w+ 1.5 if w gets h1, g2 nd a8 eclipse: of you count top left as points for w it is close eclipse: but w doesn't get all the endgame points ] ;W[ad] ;B[af] ;W[ca] ;B[ba] ;W[db] ;B[is]C[k=16 RTM: 54 // 59.3 // 1.0] ;W[al] ;B[jo] ;W[jp] ;B[gs] ;W[fs] ;B[gp] ;W[gq] ;B[ie] ;W[je] ;B[ji] ;W[gd] ;B[ki] ;W[mk] ;B[ed] ;W[dc] ;B[ee] ;W[aa]C[Goeland [1d\]: J15 should be at L13 ] ;B[kg] ;W[ge] ;B[hf] ;W[mn] ;B[mo] ;W[ph] ;B[dg] ;W[hk] ;B[mm] ;W[lj] ;B[oh] ;W[ml] ;B[] ;W[]) (;B[ed]C[locally this is the way to attack, but I don't have the threats.] ;W[ca] ;B[ba] ;W[dc] ;B[ee] ;W[db] ;B[ae] ;W[al] ;B[da] ;W[oo])) (;B[ep] ;W[eq] ;B[nf] ;W[gm] ;B[ng])) (;W[oe] ;B[ae])) (;B[nf] ;W[ne] ;B[oe] ;W[ng] ;B[pf] ;W[nf] ;B[oh])) (;B[me] ;W[lf] ;B[fo] ;W[nf] ;B[of] ;W[al] ;B[ca])) (;W[fo] ;B[fl] ;W[me])) (;B[fo] ;W[me] ;B[ne] ;W[mf] ;B[fe] ;W[is] ;B[ae])) (;W[fo])) (;B[fe] ;W[mf] ;B[me])) (;B[mh] ;W[lh] ;B[lg])) (;B[mh])) (;W[fl] ;B[fo])) (;W[fl]) (;W[cb]C[locally])) (;B[mh])) (;B[mi] ;W[fl] ;B[fo] ;W[gm] ;B[gl] ;W[mj] ;B[al] ;W[bm] ;B[ni] ;W[nj] ;B[mg] ;W[li] ;B[fm] ;W[mf] ;B[nf] ;W[nn] ;B[no] ;W[me] ;B[jg] ;W[ll] ;B[je])) (;W[gg] ;B[dh] ;W[ei] ;B[ie] ;W[fl] ;B[fo] ;W[nh] ;B[ng] ;W[mg] ;B[mf] ;W[lg] ;B[ll] ;W[lk] ;B[nn] ;W[di] ;B[dg] ;W[gi] ;B[gl] ;W[jg] ;B[hf] ;W[le] ;B[me] ;W[ii] ;B[ae] ;W[ad])) (;B[gg] ;W[fl] ;B[gh] ;W[gi] ;B[fo] ;W[nh] ;B[mf] ;W[ng] ;B[nf])) (;W[km] ;B[bc] ;W[cc] ;B[de] ;W[ae])) (;B[gg] ;W[gh] ;B[re])) (;W[ng] ;B[nf] ;W[sd] ;B[re] ;W[mg] ;B[jn])) (;B[bc] ;W[cc] ;B[fj])) (;B[cc])) (;W[ng] ;B[nf] ;W[sd] ;B[re] ;W[mg] ;B[fj] ;W[fi] ;B[gg])) (;B[bc] ;W[cc] (;B[ln] ;W[ng] ;B[nf]) (;B[de] ;W[bd] ;B[ac] ;W[ad] ;B[gg] ;W[gh] ;B[ln] ;W[ng] ;B[nf]))) (;W[ng])) (;W[mo] ;B[no] ;W[ln] ;B[fs] ;W[iq] ;B[hs] ;W[ng] ;B[nf] ;W[sd])) (;W[hr] ;B[bc]) (;W[rb])) (;B[js])) (;W[qb]C[5-6 point sente] ;B[rb])) (;B[jm] ;W[qb] ;B[rb] ;W[ga] ;B[gb] ;W[ls] ;B[jo] ;W[jp] ;B[io] ;W[ip] ;B[jn] ;W[ns] ;B[nh] ;W[ra] ;B[rc] ;W[qs])) (;W[qb] ;B[rb])) (;B[fi] ;W[gg] ;B[ei] ;W[qb] ;B[jm] ;W[ng] ;B[nf] ;W[of] ;B[oh] ;W[mf] ;B[ne] ;W[rb] ;B[rc] ;W[nh] ;B[eg] ;W[ph])) (;W[mo] ;B[kr] ;W[qb] ;B[rb] ;W[no] ;B[js] ;W[is] ;B[ks] ;W[hr] ;B[mj] ;W[lj] ;B[kl] ;W[jm] ;B[lk] ;W[kj] ;B[mi] ;W[nj])) (;B[fi] ;W[gg] ;B[ei] ;W[mo] ;B[kr] ;W[qb] ;B[jp] ;W[jo] ;B[kl] ;W[jm] ;B[mn] ;W[ks] ;B[ls] ;W[js] ;B[lo] ;W[ko] ;B[ln] ;W[rb] ;B[rc] ;W[nh]) (;B[jo] ;W[kn] ;B[jp] ;W[ko] ;B[iq] ;W[ir] ;B[hq] ;W[hr] ;B[jm] ;W[jn] ;B[kl] ;W[qb] ;B[rb] ;W[kj])) (;W[mo]) (;W[ng] ;B[qb])) (;B[mr] ;W[mo] ;B[no] ;W[ga] ;B[fi] ;W[gg] ;B[ei] ;W[np] ;B[mq] ;W[hf] ;B[fe] ;W[nn] ;B[oo] ;W[eg] ;B[kl] ;W[qb] ;B[lo] ;W[mn] ;B[kn])) (;W[ng])) (;B[fi] (;W[gg] ;B[ei] ;W[lp] ;B[nq] ;W[mo] ;B[kr]) (;W[fh] ;B[ko]))) (;W[ef] ;B[ee] ;W[eg] ;B[de] ;W[fe] ;B[bc] ;W[ga] ;B[dc] ;W[cc] ;B[cd] ;W[cb] ;B[bb] ;W[gb] ;B[jr] ;W[iq] ;B[qb])) (;B[qb] ;W[na] ;B[jr] ;W[ek] ;B[el] ;W[fp] ;B[il] ;W[hj] ;B[gj])) (;W[nb] ;B[pc])) (;B[bc]C[the corner isn't settled and F18 doesn't make a clean eye?] ;W[cc] ;B[ee] ;W[bd]) (;B[ee] ;W[nl] ;B[om] ;W[ek] ;B[fp] ;W[nm] ;B[on] ;W[gb] ;B[bc] ;W[cc] ;B[cb] ;W[db] ;B[bd] ;W[cd] ;B[bb] ;W[ae] ;B[ad] ;W[ab] ;B[ca])) (;B[nb])) (;W[kc]) (;W[ja] ;B[nl]C[B has lived in sente])) (;B[nl] ;W[mo] ;B[mk] ;W[nd])) (;W[lb] ;B[ee])) (;B[ie]C[locally]) (;B[de] ;W[cd] ;B[hd])) (;B[jg] ;W[kg] ;B[jf])) (;W[mm] ;B[nm] ;W[mn] ;B[ml] ;W[nl] ;B[on] ;W[mj])) (;B[je]C[-3])) (;W[gk] ;B[de] ;W[fl] ;B[cd] ;W[ee] ;B[cc] ;W[jk] ;B[jj] ;W[ij] ;B[ik] ;W[il])) (;B[de] ;W[cd] ;B[eg] ;W[fj] ;B[he])) (;W[gk] ;B[de] ;W[cd] ;B[fj] ;W[fi] ;B[gj] ;W[hh] ;B[if])) (;B[de])) (;W[gf] ;B[ge] ;W[fe] ;B[de] ;W[cc] ;B[fd] ;W[ef] ;B[ee] ;W[gd])) (;B[ff] ;W[fd] ;B[fe] ;W[nl] ;B[om] ;W[gg] ;B[hf] ;W[nm])) (;W[ff]C[I found this in the post game review but felt that B might still be ok, but apparently W is several points ahead.] ;B[eg]C[B has to play very accurately to live.] ;W[fg] ;B[af] ;W[ah] ;B[fh] ;W[fj] ;B[gh] ;W[gk] ;B[ee] ;W[hf] ;B[fe] ;W[hg] ;B[al] ;W[bm] ;B[gc] ;W[gb] ;B[hc] ;W[gd] ;B[ec] ;W[eb] ;B[fd] ;W[fb] ;B[ge] ;W[hd] ;B[he] ;W[id] ;B[ie] ;W[je])) (;B[af] ;W[ek] ;B[el] ;W[nl] ;B[al])) (;B[be] ;W[bd] ;B[bm] ;W[al] ;B[bo] ;W[am] ;B[ae] ;W[mc])) (;W[el])) (;W[bm]C[bad] ;B[do])) (;W[ek] ;B[em] ;W[cm] ;B[dm] ;W[be] ;B[bm] ;W[am] ;B[al] ;W[ak] ;B[bo] ;W[bp] ;B[al] ;W[mc] ;B[bm])) (;B[ej] ;W[bj] ;B[be] ;W[cc] ;B[cj])) (;W[qj]C[this is my memorised variation for when B has 4-4 walls in both corners and W can't fight in the centre and must make some shape locally before escaping.] ;B[pk] ;W[qh] ;B[ri] ;W[ph])) (;W[rj] ;B[gc] ;W[do] ;B[fb])) (;B[im] ;W[rk] ;B[rj] ;W[qj] ;B[qk] ;W[qi] ;B[ri] ;W[qh] ;B[ql])) (;W[eh] ;B[cf] ;W[ce] ;B[gf] ;W[df] ;B[gc] ;W[ic] ;B[fb] ;W[ec] ;B[id] ;W[jd] ;B[ie] ;W[nc]) (;W[gn]C[cut isn't a problem but W's result in the game was better.] ;B[gm] ;W[fn] ;B[fm] ;W[mc] ;B[qj] ;W[mo] ;B[lo] ;W[mn] ;B[ln] ;W[mm] ;B[jp] ;W[jo])) (;B[cf] ;W[di] ;B[bf] ;W[dg] ;B[cc] ;W[cd] ;B[bd] ;W[dc] ;B[bb] ;W[cb] ;B[bc] ;W[fj] ;B[hn] ;W[fl] ;B[df] ;W[ef] ;B[gm] ;W[hl] ;B[jn] ;W[jl] ;B[jr] ;W[jp] ;B[ln])) (;W[eh] ;B[cf] ;W[ce] ;B[df] ;W[fi] ;B[je] ;W[ke] ;B[jg] ;W[gf] ;B[fg] ;W[eg] ;B[be])) (;B[cf] ;W[df] ;B[be] ;W[cd] ;B[dg] ;W[cg] ;B[dh] ;W[bj] ;B[ep] ;W[eq] ;B[bo] ;W[bp] ;B[gp] ;W[gq] ;B[ho] ;W[ip]) (;B[jo] ;W[mq] ;B[jp]) (;B[mc] ;W[eh] ;B[le] ;W[ke] ;B[lf] ;W[lc] ;B[mb] ;W[kf] ;B[lg] ;W[jh] ;B[fi])) (;B[gp]C[I thought about this but got scared for no good reason.] ;W[fn] ;B[fp] ;W[ep] ;B[gq] ;W[fr] ;B[gk] ;W[mq] ;B[np] ;W[lp] ;B[gn] ;W[nq] ;B[oq]) (;B[cf]C[I thought about this but felt I didn't know what I was doing with this.] (;W[eh] ;B[gp] ;W[fp] ;B[gn] ;W[ce] ;B[je] ;W[ke] ;B[jg] ;W[kf] ;B[hg] ;W[lh] ;B[ki]) (;W[bd]C[I feared this] ;B[eh]C[but apparently this is good for B.]))) (;B[gp]) (;B[ej] ;W[dk] ;B[ek] ;W[bn] ;B[gp])) (;W[dk]C[I was very worried about this] ;B[ck] ;W[el] ;B[dm] ;W[dj] ;B[bl] ;W[ci]C[W has the B7 tesuji and I only have one eye and W fixes the D11 cutting point.] ;B[iq] ;W[kn] ;B[io] ;W[bn] ;B[bm] ;W[nc] ;B[ne] ;W[mm] ;B[jm]) (;W[bn]C[Even this is better though this is more normal with F3 at F4 and C10 at D10 because B still has various aji of E4 (or even D2) It doesn't work well with the J3 weak point to make W already surrounded here.])) (;B[cf]C[I was thinking about this move] (;W[ce] ;B[df] ;W[di] ;B[dj] ;W[fi] ;B[ej] ;W[ei]C[It looks like B is too busy.]) (;W[el] ;B[ej] ;W[fn] ;B[fo] ;W[gn] ;B[gq] ;W[fp] ;B[go] ;W[eo] ;B[en])) (;B[bl]C[I was also thinking about this but W's B7 aji is still serious as W L16 is a ladder breaker. If W C11 is sente then I still can't invade C14, and if I play E4, W can also get a good result.] ;W[mq] ;B[nq] ;W[lq] ;B[ep] ;W[eq] ;B[cq]C[my reading is that this doesn't work well for B] ;W[dq] ;B[bo] ;W[bp] ;B[cp] ;W[do] ;B[bq] ;W[bn] ;B[ap] ;W[en]C[At this point it becomes clear that C8 for C7 is a very good exchange for W.] ;B[bm]) (;B[bn]C[best] ;W[el] ;B[ep] ;W[dq] ;B[bl] ;W[ck] ;B[bk] ;W[dj] ;B[ci] ;W[di] ;B[bh] ;W[bg])) (;W[dk] ;B[dj] ;W[ck] ;B[bj] ;W[ek] ;B[bk] ;W[gk] ;B[cf] ;W[df] ;B[ce] ;W[de] ;B[cg] ;W[dg] ;B[bh] ;W[mc] ;B[gc] ;W[ic])) (;W[mq] ;B[nq] ;W[lq] ;B[cf] ;W[eh] ;B[en] ;W[nr] ;B[np] ;W[pr] ;B[bp] ;W[ql] ;B[rj] ;W[ol] ;B[nj]) (;W[cl]C[I expected this] (;B[iq] ;W[kn] ;B[en] ;W[dk] ;B[jo] ;W[ko] ;B[ho] ;W[dj] ;B[bp] ;W[cq] ;B[bq]) (;B[cp]C[I was planning to play here even though it felt bad to let W get thick with such a wide gap between the weak L4 to this group.] ;W[cq] ;B[bq] ;W[co] ;B[bp] ;W[do] ;B[dq] ;W[cr] ;B[dr] ;W[br] ;B[ar] ;W[bo] ;B[cs] ;W[eh] ;B[cf] ;W[ce] ;B[gc]))) (;B[cm]C[I thought about this but didn't see much potential to counter the moyos like this] ;W[co] (;B[em]C[whichever side I jump seems inefficient as too close to the corner thickness but not yet threatening H3 or anything. B's shape remains thin too.] (;W[eh]) (;W[dl] ;B[dm] ;W[dj] ;B[ck] ;W[mq] ;B[nq] ;W[lq] ;B[gp] ;W[nr] ;B[np] ;W[pr] ;B[fp] ;W[eq] ;B[gq] ;W[eo] ;B[gn])) (;B[cf] ;W[mq] ;B[nq] ;W[lq] ;B[ef] ;W[di] ;B[dj] ;W[fi] ;B[fk] ;W[hi] ;B[je]))) (;W[mq]C[This is such a good way to punish the shape. I didn't have a good plan on how to deal with it.] (;B[np]C[I was considering just pulling back but hane is better] ;W[lp]C[However W getting this is good profit locally]) (;B[lq]C[I had this variation in mind but it looked very bad for B.] ;W[lp] ;B[kq] ;W[jq] ;B[mr] ;W[nq] ;B[np] ;W[jp] ;B[jr] ;W[ir] ;B[kr] ;W[cl]C[The thing is B has taken gote to claim more of the corner but W has fixed the gap from F3 to L4, gotten solid in the centre and still has various aji of J1, O2, N5, P5 etc. ]) (;B[nq]C[best] ;W[lq] ;B[md] ;W[mc] ;B[nc] ;W[lc] ;B[cn] ;W[cg] ;B[kf] ;W[nb] ;B[nd] ;W[nr] ;B[np] ;W[pb] ;B[ko]))) (;B[md]C[I considered this but felt that it wasn't easy to get both upper and lower sides. However it was better than the game. This feels more consistent with aggressive.] ;W[mc] ;B[nc] ;W[lc] ;B[cn] ;W[ck] ;B[iq] ;W[jn]) (;B[cn]C[Best to ask W the question of if B can attack L4.] (;W[cj] ;B[bp] ;W[cq] ;B[cl] ;W[mq] ;B[nq] ;W[lq] ;B[cf] ;W[dm] ;B[dl] ;W[ej] ;B[fl] ;W[cd]) (;W[co]C[I was scared of the kick but perhaps it wasn't severe] ;B[dn] ;W[cj] ;B[gn] ;W[gp] ;B[ej] ;W[dh] ;B[cf] ;W[fi] ;B[cd]))) (;B[ld] ;W[cj] ;B[gd] ;W[fd] ;B[gf] ;W[mq] ;B[jo] ;W[jp] ;B[ho] ;W[rj] ;B[qj] ;W[ri])) (;W[cj]C[I expect this but it is 3rd (after L16)] ;B[ld] ;W[kp] ;B[gd] ;W[fd] ;B[gf] ;W[rj])) (;B[np] ;W[kd] ;B[gp] ;W[fp] ;B[cj] ;W[ql] ;B[rk] ;W[ol] ;B[nk] ;W[qo])) (;B[fc] ;W[cf] ;B[ld] ;W[pd] ;B[qd] ;W[pf] ;B[od] ;W[ql] ;B[rj] ;W[pp] ;B[qp])) (;W[cf]C[The AI prefers to tempt B from playing away from the 3-3's which allows W to strike at the soft area around Q16 first. This makes Q10 inefficient.] ;B[fq] ;W[cn] ;B[fc] ;W[nd] ;B[pf] ;W[jc] ;B[db] ;W[cc] ;B[hc]C[This point is very important since W has a weak group next to B's big moyo and W is relatively low on the left, so B moving this group out into the centre is still interesting.])) (;B[fc] ;W[df] ;B[fq] ;W[cn] ;B[dq]))