(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[2400]OT[5x40 byo-yomi]
PW[Phelan]PB[mosdefgo]WR[6k]DT[2010-06-17]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[mosdefgo [-\]: hi have fun
Phelan [6k\]: have a good game!
]RE[B+Resign]
;B[pp]BL[2386.936]
;W[dd]WL[2396.345]
;B[cp]BL[2383.963]
;W[pd]WL[2393.427]
;B[iq]BL[2381.472]C[Phelan [6k\]: right click on his name
]
(;W[pn]WL[2383.317]C[mosdefgo [-\]: nvm
Aphelion02 [6k\]: pincer this?
Shadonra [2d\]: this should be low, high indicates that the right side is giant
]
(;B[nq]BL[2362.502]C[Phelan [6k\]: give control to shadonra, if he doesn't mind reviewing for us
]
(;W[dn]WL[2377.093]C[mosdefgo [-\]: o
Phelan [6k\]: would you?
mosdefgo [-\]: ok
Shadonra [2d\]: sure
Phelan [6k\]: thanks
mosdefgo [-\]: how?
Aphelion02 [6k\]: what
]
(;B[ep]BL[2346.472]
;W[dj]WL[2359.538]C[Shadonra [2d\]: q6 should be low, o3 should be high to take advantage of j3
Shadonra [2d\]: d6 is too close, invading the enclosure will damage it
Shadonra [2d\]: d10 is too far, it's easy to invade w's formation
Shadonra [2d\]: now if i invade, d6 group is weak
]
(;B[no]BL[2268.559]C[Shadonra [2d\]: k16 giant
]
(;W[nm]WL[2330.872]
(;B[pf]BL[2261.693]C[Nakamura [7k\]: So white could tenuki to k16? :P
Shadonra [2d\]: yesw
]
;W[ph]WL[2301.234]C[Nakamura [7k\]: Hm.
]
;B[qd]BL[2253.573]
;W[qc]WL[2270.621]
;B[qe]BL[2250.385]
;W[rc]WL[2258.962]
;B[ql]BL[2201.843]C[Shadonra [2d\]: o16
Shadonra [2d\]: q8 ok too
Shadonra [2d\]: q8 probably better, actually
]
(;W[pm]WL[2196.045]C[Shadonra [2d\]: this is a bit slow
]
;B[pk]BL[2182.944]C[redundant [4k\]: this game is odd
Shadonra [2d\]: too many high approach to star
]
;W[nd]WL[2163.059]C[redundant [4k\]: yeah
redundant [4k\]: high approach is special strategy
]
;B[nf]BL[2164.914]
(;W[qj]WL[2153.467]C[Shadonra [2d\]: i'd rather p10
]
;B[nh]BL[2084.317]
;W[oi]WL[2132.648]
;B[nk]BL[2073.573]
;W[ni]WL[2124.506]
;B[nl]BL[2061.993]
;W[mm]WL[2115.73]
;B[lk]BL[2055.056]
;W[mi]WL[2103.819]C[Shadonra [2d\]: o7 really heavy now
Shadonra [2d\]: i'd hate to be w
]
;B[kj]BL[2030.799]
;W[ok]WL[2060.685]C[redundant [4k\]: black will profit on bottom as white struggles
Shadonra [2d\]: nice cut
]
;B[ol]BL[2019.765]
;W[pl]WL[2058.216]C[Shadonra [2d\]: clever.
redundant [4k\]: or this
]
;B[oj]BL[1982.967]
;W[qk]WL[2055.512]C[Shadonra [2d\]: suddenly i don't want to be black
redundant [4k\]: racist
]
;B[rl]BL[1970.23]C[Nakamura [7k\]: Haha.
]
(;W[qp]WL[2043.63]C[Nakamura [7k\]: Interesting situation, though.
]
;B[qq]BL[1961.947]C[Phelan [6k\]: (connection reset, sorry)
]
;W[rp]WL[2040.136]
;B[om]BL[1926.988]
;W[on]WL[2037.221]
;B[nn]BL[1924.474]
;W[pj]WL[2027.629]
;B[fc]BL[1881.324]C[Shadonra [2d\]: k17
]
;W[ic]WL[2018.889]C[Shadonra [2d\]: this good too
Shadonra [2d\]: i'd rather have k17 to attack o14
]
;B[fe]BL[1867.169]C[Shadonra [2d\]: good pincer
]
;W[df]WL[2015.506]C[Aphelion02 [6k\]: loses points, and still no base
Shadonra [2d\]: yes
]
;B[db]BL[1859.992]C[redundant [4k\]: and k17 leaves less thinness on top
Shadonra [2d\]: this is a bad move
mosdefgo [-\]: y?
Shadonra [2d\]: w is happy to play c17 and remove the possibility of a 3-3 invasion
]
;W[ie]WL[1999.628]C[Shadonra [2d\]: b cannot invade, o14 will die
Shadonra [2d\]: o14 may well die anyway
Aphelion02 [6k\]: woah
Shadonra [2d\]: this is fine too, but c17 is huge
]
;B[cc]BL[1836.841]C[mosdefgo [-\]: ok
]
;W[cd]WL[1996.88]C[oren [6k?\]: very odd opening
]
;B[fn]BL[1824.582]C[Aphelion02 [6k\]: oh  nice
Phelan [6k\]: *treat
]
(;W[fm]WL[1977.88]C[Shadonra [2d\]: nooo!
Shadonra [2d\]: you're solidifying it for him!
]
;B[gm]BL[1809.817]C[redundant [4k\]: just give b the whole bottom
Nakamura [7k\]: What move instead would've reduced it? 3 point cut? o.o
Nakamura [7k\]: Or cap?
]
;W[gl]WL[1897.753]C[redundant [4k\]: dunno
Shadonra [2d\]: g7?
Shadonra [2d\]: j7?
Shadonra [2d\]: this is where breaking sector lines comes into play
redundant [4k\]: i'll get around to reading my book on reductions
]
;B[hm]BL[1735.705]
;W[hl]WL[1894.523]C[Shadonra [2d\]: b has 100 points
Shadonra [2d\]: w has.. more than 100
]
;B[im]BL[1718.468]C[Shadonra [2d\]: if you play these moves, you gotta use the thickness to kill
]
(;W[rq]WL[1890.058]C[Shadonra [2d\]: ENGAME
Shadonra [2d\]: *d
]
;B[em]BL[1702.66]C[redundant [4k\]: engamed?
oren [6k?\]: so b INVADES
]
;W[fl]WL[1886.975]
;B[en]BL[1700.668]C[Shadonra [2d\]: i will engame you
]
;W[dl]WL[1878.464]C[Shadonra [2d\]: hurry up and engulf o14 already w
]
;B[cj]BL[1687.444]C[redundant [4k\]: or defend it for b
oren [6k?\]: oh, wow I didn't even see o14
Aphelion02 [6k\]: awow
]
;W[ck]WL[1862.867]C[Shadonra [2d\]: c10 is bad because of this
Aphelion02 [6k\]: black fearless
]
;B[ci]BL[1684.701]C[Shadonra [2d\]: this will die
]
;W[di]WL[1855.45]
;B[ch]BL[1680.395]C[oren [6k?\]: never predict a kyu game
redundant [4k\]: this should die
]
;W[dh]WL[1833.293]C[Shadonra [2d\]: if this doesn't die i will eat my hat
redundant [4k\]: good thing I've never seen you wear a hat
]
;B[cg]BL[1664.566]C[Shadonra [2d\]: i have a bamboo farmer's hat
]
(;W[bd]WL[1824.173]C[Shadonra [2d\]: that should be c14
]
;B[bk]BL[1660.547]C[Shadonra [2d\]: that should be c14
Shadonra [2d\]: why make it run? just kill
Shadonra [2d\]: it's free points
]
;W[bl]WL[1821.631]
;B[bj]BL[1658.065]C[Nakamura [7k\]: Haha.
]
(;W[bb]WL[1817.169]C[Shadonra [2d\]: it's dead in gote
Phelan [6k\]: ok
]
;B[dg]BL[1650.127]C[Phelan [6k\]: better?
]
;W[eg]WL[1814.745]C[Nakamura [7k\]: Here comes some valiant battle for it.
Shadonra [2d\]: it might live
oren [6k?\]: will you eat your hat
]
;B[bf]BL[1595.096]C[Shadonra [2d\]: no, but i will get drunk and play go
]
;W[ef]WL[1803.9]C[Nakamura [7k\]: What rank are you when you're really drunk and decide to play? O.o
Shadonra [2d\]: i guess e17 will die, so it's evevn
Shadonra [2d\]: me? 2d
Shadonra [2d\]: i play on instinct, so i don't lose much
]
;B[bh]BL[1569.872]C[Nakamura [7k\]: That's pretty cool.
oren [6k?\]: need to get you stronger stuff
Nakamura [7k\]: Haha, that too.
Shadonra [2d\]: or that
redundant [4k\]: maybe when you're older, we'll let you in on the good stuff
Shadonra [2d\]: i also make more silly mistakes than usual when i get drunk
]
;W[rg]WL[1754.099]C[oren [6k?\]: hat eating time!
Shadonra [2d\]: wtf
Phelan [6k\]: i wanted it to run
]
;B[le]BL[1544.923]C[Nakamura [7k\]: Double wtf
]
(;W[lc]WL[1725.998]C[redundant [4k\]: triple where's the fudge
Shadonra [2d\]: ok, wow
Nakamura [7k\]: Black really thought he could wait until white decided to deal with him to save that?
Shadonra [2d\]: m13 will decide life and death
Shadonra [2d\]: or m12 for b
Shadonra [2d\]: if it lives, gg
]
(;B[kd]BL[1477.349]C[Nakamura [7k\]: The stones just look too loose, there has to be some way
Shadonra [2d\]: it's also a vital point of shape
Shadonra [2d\]: that's more important, yes
Aphelion02 [6k\]: i don't see how it can live
]
(;W[gb]WL[1719.657]
;B[gc]BL[1445.49]C[Shadonra [2d\]: this is wtf
Shadonra [2d\]: experience teaches you how much room you need to live
Shadonra [2d\]: that's simply not enough
]
;W[hb]WL[1716.014]C[Aphelion02 [6k\]: why not just kill off o14
]
;B[gf]BL[1442.429]
;W[lg]WL[1712.391]
;B[kf]BL[1416.48]
(;W[jg]WL[1697.718]C[Shadonra [2d\]: w should have pushed l14 to connect, then cut n15
Aphelion02 [6k\]: black has so many weak groups
]
;B[kg]BL[1360.446]
;W[kh]WL[1695.128]
(;B[lh]BL[1354.843]
;W[li]WL[1678.011]
;B[mh]BL[1352.832]
;W[ki]WL[1658.829]C[Nakamura [7k\]: Is that even two eyes yet?
redundant [4k\]: i see only one
]
;B[ek]BL[1332.991]C[Aphelion02 [6k\]: isn't b16 dead then
Shadonra [2d\]: tenuki this
]
(;W[el]WL[1626.084]
;B[dk]BL[1328.937]
;W[cl]WL[1624.633]
;B[fj]BL[1321.23]
;W[fh]WL[1621.218]
;B[if]BL[1304.016]
;W[jf]WL[1614.251]
;B[je]BL[1293.143]
;W[jd]WL[1612.019]
;B[he]BL[1242.66]
;W[id]WL[1579.854]
;B[ke]BL[1225.414]
;W[ig]WL[1576.342]
;B[hf]BL[1216.349]
;W[kc]WL[1572.271]C[Shadonra [2d\]: everything's dead, w+30
mosdefgo [-\]: good move ^^
]
(;B[gh]BL[1168.301]C[Phelan [6k\]: i saw it after i played J13. don't know what would have done if you played there first:/
oren [6k?\]: se is perfect now
Aphelion02 [6k\]: why not just h10 for black
]
;W[gi]WL[1545.26]C[mosdefgo [-\]: :)
]
;B[hh]BL[1153.96]C[Aphelion02 [6k\]: insetad of g12
]
(;W[hi]WL[1539.704]
;B[ii]BL[1133.168]C[Shadonra [2d\]: ah.. a good move.
]
;W[jh]WL[1498.155]C[oren [6k?\]: f11
izayoi [?\]: 122 or 121?
]
;B[ij]BL[1096.398]C[Shadonra [2d\]: 121
]
;W[ih]WL[1486.626]C[Shadonra [2d\]: w's stuck
]
;B[fi]BL[1092.034]C[Shadonra [2d\]: e9
Phelan [6k\]: ah
mosdefgo [-\]: ;)
redundant [4k\]: f9
]
;W[fk]WL[1432.148]
;B[gj]BL[1082.317]
;W[ej]WL[1428.368]
;B[qg]BL[1067.313]
;W[rf]WL[1419.795]
;B[qf]BL[1058.33]
;W[qh]WL[1393.696]
;B[og]BL[1012.901]C[Shadonra [2d\]: alive
Shadonra [2d\]: gg
]
;W[ne]WL[1382.708]
;B[me]BL[1002.699]C[Shadonra [2d\]: ok
Shadonra [2d\]: i guess not
izayoi [?\]: white?
oren [6k?\]: haha
Shadonra [2d\]: it's the butcher's knife!
]
(;W[eb]WL[1361.294]C[Shadonra [2d\]: OH, COME ON
redundant [4k\]: what!
oren [6k?\]: Shad, do you still disagree with tsumego?
oren [6k?\]: isn't THIS the point?
redundant [4k\]: this isn't a lak of tsumego
redundant [4k\]: this is a lack of basic shapes
Shadonra [2d\]: this is just not seeing what's in front of your eyes
oren [6k?\]: you get basic shapes from tsumego
redundant [4k\]: bulky five took many tsumego
]
;B[mg]BL[942.196]
;W[lf]WL[1357.062]C[oren [6k?\]: yay
redundant [4k\]: gote
]
;B[mf]BL[935.111]C[Shadonra [2d\]: what just happened?
izayoi [?\]: dk
Phelan [6k\]: oh
Phelan [6k\]: man, i'm blind today :p
Aphelion02 [6k\]: i am confused
Aphelion02 [6k\]: whats going on
mosdefgo [-\]: lol
Shadonra [2d\]: as you should be
mosdefgo [-\]: me too
oren [6k?\]: Aph, did you get a hold of your l19 opponent
mosdefgo [-\]: actually im a bit cautious too...
Aphelion02 [6k\]: no
Aphelion02 [6k\]: thats the reason i am here
Aphelion02 [6k\]: trying to find him
oren [6k?\]: ah, looks like he was on 3 days ago
Aphelion02 [6k\]: yea i saw htat
Aphelion02 [6k\]: he didn't reply to my message tho
oren [6k?\]: ugh
oren [6k?\]: maybe we should take him out and put in ketchup
izayoi [?\]: i thought you said 'put him in ketchup'
oren [6k?\]: That would be funny
Aphelion02 [6k\]: lol
Aphelion02 [6k\]: its still funny
izayoi [?\]: i was thinking, if there's a way of punishing escaper with ketchup
izayoi [?\]: :D
Aphelion02 [6k\]: its not escaper, its dodger :)
Aphelion02 [6k\]: escaper is for ppl who actually show up at games
izayoi [?\]: so he did not show up at all
Aphelion02 [6k\]: anyways i just sent him another message, with a nice smiley face
Nakamura [7k\]: Those are always good
]
;W[lo]WL[1087.585]C[Nakamura [7k\]: o_o
Aphelion02 [6k\]: if he doesn't respond within 5 days i will ask topazg to give me a bye / subsitute opponent
Aphelion02 [6k\]: what
oren [6k?\]: I think sub is better
Nakamura [7k\]: Isn't this straight up cuttable? A probe maybe? M3 is his goal?
oren [6k?\]: we know someone wants to get in
Aphelion02 [6k\]: i'm not seeing what white is seeing
Nakamura [7k\]: Unless he's trying to kill the corner. haha.
Nakamura [7k\]: I thought white was taking so much time because he was planning an invasion
izayoi [?\]: maybe white should go from D3
izayoi [?\]: or G4
Aphelion02 [6k\]: probably hoping its sente then aiming for l8?
izayoi [?\]: ?
]
;B[lq]BL[808.672]
;W[kq]WL[1076.045]C[Aphelion02 [6k\]: lol
mosdefgo [-\]: bulky five
]
;B[mn]BL[801.362]C[izayoi [?\]: those white doesn't look like will live there
]
;W[ln]WL[1073.35]
;B[lm]BL[799.095]
;W[km]WL[1070.983]
;B[ll]BL[794.527]C[Aphelion02 [6k\]: interesting...
Nakamura [7k\]: Maybe he's hoping for an invasion and later hurt the black group, but that obviously didn't pan out.
]
;W[il]WL[1067.07]
;B[jm]BL[772.266]
;W[jl]WL[1064.295]
;B[kl]BL[767.716]
;W[ok]WL[1053.865]
;B[nj]BL[740.913]C[Aphelion02 [6k\]: is that even sente
Aphelion02 [6k\]: why did black save it
]
;W[dq]WL[1018.093]C[Nakamura [7k\]: If I was black I'd defend my corner instead of atari, because then there's another invasion to deal with
Nakamura [7k\]: Well, either bottom corner.
Aphelion02 [6k\]: white is flailing
]
;B[cq]BL[703.789]C[Nakamura [7k\]: Yeah, truw.
Nakamura [7k\]: true*
izayoi [?\]: q3 good too later?
]
(;W[cr]WL[1004.145]
;B[br]BL[697.862]
;W[dp]WL[1000.282]
;B[do]BL[695.168]
;W[co]WL[997.916]
;B[eo]BL[692.519]
;W[cn]WL[981.655]
;B[dr]BL[683.685]
;W[eq]WL[975.186]C[Aphelion02 [6k\]: death in gote
]
;B[fq]BL[664.202]C[izayoi [?\]: Q3
Aphelion02 [6k\]: oh btw redundant your here!
redundant [4k\]: yeah
Aphelion02 [6k\]: when do you want to play our game
Aphelion02 [6k\]: for kuchinashi
]
;W[hq]WL[916.295]C[izayoi [?\]: when is the next 2010 shodan study time
izayoi [?\]: is it always on friday?
]
;B[hp]BL[642.27]C[redundant [4k\]: I'm good any time after 6 eastern on weekdays, or about any time on weekends
Nakamura [7k\]: I really hope the Lakers lose tonight
Aphelion02 [6k\]: let me do internal time conversion
]
;W[ir]WL[892.212]C[Nakamura [7k\]: White should've just killed when he had the chance, then he wouldn't have to invade!
]
;B[kr]BL[594.584]C[Aphelion02 [6k\]: so its 4:30 pm where you are?
redundant [4k\]: yeah
Aphelion02 [6k\]: woah that feels bad
Aphelion02 [6k\]: by black
Aphelion02 [6k\]: how about 3pm saturday EST
Aphelion02 [6k\]: i'm on european time
Aphelion02 [6k\]: white probably still dies
redundant [4k\]: sunday would work better
Aphelion02 [6k\]: alright 3pm EST sundahy
Aphelion02 [6k\]: *sunday
]
;W[ip]WL[832.303]C[redundant [4k\]: done
]
;B[jq]BL[589.236]C[Aphelion02 [6k\]: all these forcing moves for black
]
;W[jp]WL[829.373]C[Aphelion02 [6k\]: for white
]
;B[jr]BL[586.793]C[Aphelion02 [6k\]: and kinda wasted
]
;W[ho]WL[819.631]C[Aphelion02 [6k\]: no fear! just extend
]
;B[gp]BL[566.02]
;W[mp]WL[818.437]C[Aphelion02 [6k\]: tenuki
]
;B[kp]BL[548.274]
;W[kn]WL[815.617]
;B[ml]BL[531.317]
;W[gn]WL[811.573]
;B[hn]BL[520.893]C[Phelan [6k\]: yeah. missed that too. :S
Phelan [6k\]: sorry
Nakamura [7k\]: Good game
Aphelion02 [6k\]: gg
Phelan [6k\]: thanks for the game
mosdefgo [-\]: thx
Aphelion02 [6k\]: phelan you don't take your time :(
mosdefgo [-\]: you kept me on my toes
Phelan [6k\]: i really don't :S
Phelan [6k\]: i still don't know how you lived with everything :)
Aphelion02 [6k\]: and its ur move in the big brother game!
Aphelion02 [6k\]: ur really throwing me off that game
Phelan [6k\]: i know, i've been busy with studies
Aphelion02 [6k\]: 2nd move i was like huh :)
Phelan [6k\]: heh, i'll play a move after
Aphelion02 [6k\]: totally ruined all my plans!
mosdefgo [-\]: i lived with A LOT of reading
mosdefgo [-\]: lol
Phelan [6k\]: hehehe :)
Phelan [6k\]: that's the only way to live
Aphelion02 [6k\]: nonsense
Aphelion02 [6k\]: i just resign after a group becomes weak
Aphelion02 [6k\]: that way nothing dies
Phelan [6k\]: :P
Phelan [6k\]: want to go over the game?
Phelan [6k\]: shadonra seems away
Shadonra [2d\]: i am here
mosdefgo [-\]: sure
Aphelion02 [6k\]: lol there goes that excuse XD
])
(;W[dp]
;B[do]
;W[co]
;B[eo]C[Shadonra [2d\]: that's all
Phelan [6k\]: ok
Phelan [6k\]: thanks!
Shadonra [2d\]: gotta look harder for ways to kill
mosdefgo [-\]: thank you
Shadonra [2d\]: np
Phelan [6k\]: and space, from what i see
mosdefgo [-\]: i must go now
Phelan [6k\]: thanks for the game again, mosdefgo
Phelan [6k\]: ok
mosdefgo [-\]: thank you too
Phelan [6k\]: will you post on the forum?
Phelan [6k\]: or shall i?
mosdefgo [-\]: I would have to do it later...
Phelan [6k\]: i'll do it then
Phelan [6k\]: see you later
mosdefgo [-\]: ok
mosdefgo [-\]: yes 8)
]))
(;W[mg]C[Phelan [6k\]: ahhh
]))
(;W[ii]
;B[hi]
;W[gj]
;B[ij]
(;W[hj])
(;W[ji]C[Shadonra [2d\]: hmm
]
;B[hj]
;W[jj])))
(;B[hj]C[Aphelion02 [6k\]: kills o11?
]
;W[gj]C[Aphelion02 [6k\]: but the ponnuki
]
;B[gi]
(;W[fk]C[Aphelion02 [6k\]: doh
])
(;W[gk]
;B[fi]
;W[hi]
;B[hh]
;W[ii]
;B[gh]C[Shadonra [2d\]: annoying situation
])))
(;W[hg]
;B[el]
;W[fj]C[Shadonra [2d\]: w wins as long as both of these groups die
Aphelion02 [6k\]: really
Phelan [6k\]: ok
Aphelion02 [6k\]: but d8 dies
Shadonra [2d\]: w is still fine
]))
(;B[jf]
;W[if]
;B[jh]
;W[ig]
;B[lh]
;W[ki]
;B[li]
;W[ji]
;B[mh]))
(;W[me]C[Shadonra [2d\]: just cut
Phelan [6k\]: i thought i needed to kill both :p
Shadonra [2d\]: you still can
])
(;W[kg]
;B[jf]
;W[jg]C[Aphelion02 [6k\]: yea now i see why u said what u did phelan
]
;B[if]C[Shadonra [2d\]: hmmmm
]
;W[he]
;B[hf]
;W[me]C[Phelan [6k\]: hmm
]
;B[kc]))
(;W[gf]C[Shadonra [2d\]: just kill it
Shadonra [2d\]: no room for eyes
]
(;B[gb])
(;B[hb]
;W[ib]
;B[hc]C[Phelan [6k\]: hmm
]
(;W[gd]C[Phelan [6k\]: ok
]
;B[hd]
;W[id]
;B[ge])
(;W[ec]
;B[eb]
;W[hd]
;B[gd]C[Phelan [6k\]: didn't think it would kill
]))))
(;B[lh]C[Shadonra [2d\]: now b has no worries
Phelan [6k\]: ouch
])
(;B[lg]))
(;W[lg]C[mosdefgo [-\]: i guess to gain influence
Shadonra [2d\]: threatens n15 cut
]
(;B[me]
;W[lc])
(;B[lc]
;W[mf])))
(;W[ag]C[Shadonra [2d\]: kill it
]))
(;W[cf]C[Shadonra [2d\]: it's dead
]))
(;W[lg]))
(;W[il]C[Phelan [6k\]: ahhh
Phelan [6k\]: nice one
Shadonra [2d\]: reducing is what sector lines are made for
Shadonra [2d\]: break them
Phelan [6k\]: i didn't know how to trat that
]))
(;W[rn]C[Shadonra [2d\]: this aims at r3 later
]))
(;W[nj])
(;W[oj]C[Shadonra [2d\]: keep your stones on the outside
Shadonra [2d\]: if you can
]
;B[ok]
;W[nk]
;B[nj]
;W[oi]
;B[nl]
;W[mk]
;B[ol]C[mosdefgo [-\]: ok
]
;W[lf]))
(;W[pl]C[Aphelion02 [6k\]: Q8 here?
Shadonra [2d\]: maybe this?.
Aphelion02 [6k\]: instead of r8?
])
(;W[pk]C[Shadonra [2d\]: can even consider this one
]))
(;B[qf]C[Shadonra [2d\]: gotta be low
Shadonra [2d\]: or you can
])
(;B[pl]C[Shadonra [2d\]: attack
]
;W[on]
;B[qh]))
(;W[jd]C[Aphelion02 [6k\]: o5 is puzzling
Shadonra [2d\]: you have stones on two sides, he only has one
Shadonra [2d\]: but w must play this move
Phelan [6k\]: hmm, really?
Phelan [6k\]: the attack seemed awful for me
Phelan [6k\]: so i capped
Aphelion02 [6k\]: isn't r3 still ko?
Shadonra [2d\]: while b does make a lot of territory, w has more
Shadonra [2d\]: r3 is ko, yes
Phelan [6k\]: hmm, ok
]
;B[pk]C[Shadonra [2d\]: severe
]
(;W[nl]C[Aphelion02 [6k\]: counter pincer?
]
;B[om])
(;W[ph]C[Shadonra [2d\]: b territory still giant
])))
(;B[pk]C[Shadonra [2d\]: not too severe
Aphelion02 [6k\]: what if white just treats it light?
Shadonra [2d\]: how?
]))
(;B[dl]C[Shadonra [2d\]: this is too severe
Shadonra [2d\]: or
]))
(;W[dm]
;B[ep]
;W[dj]C[Shadonra [2d\]: i've always only ever seen far approaches
Phelan [6k\]: hmm, ok
Shadonra [2d\]: i assume it is because of either
Shadonra [2d\]: w can invade without worrying about his outside stones
]))
(;B[np]C[Shadonra [2d\]: high takes advantage of j3
]))
(;W[qn]C[Shadonra [2d\]: shouldn't pincer
]
(;B[ql]
;W[qq]
;B[pq]
;W[qp]
;B[po]
;W[rn]
;B[om]
;W[jp]C[Shadonra [2d\]: because w has this move
])
(;B[np]C[Aphelion02 [6k\]: this is why i hate the chinese or anything related to that
Shadonra [2d\]: this is better
])))