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Old 2010-04-14, 04:21 PM   #11
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I don't really like taking the option of a diagonal fuseki away from my opponent though.
Go is all about taking away options that you don't like from your opponent. Ideally including the option of WINNING =D. Don't feel bad for guiding the game to be the type of game that you like. Especially in things like diagonal fuseki, which both players have the option to refuse.

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Old 2010-04-14, 04:31 PM   #12
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Go is all about taking away options that you don't like from your opponent. Ideally including the option of WINNING =D. Don't feel bad for guiding the game to be the type of game that you like. Especially in things like diagonal fuseki, which both players have the option to refuse.
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Winning is always nice. It's a friendly game though so I'm just hoping to learn something from it whether I win or lose.
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considered some pincers but didnt like how they turned out for me. chose bottom left since i didnt want to give him stones facing the correct way of the potential shimari. result should be fine for me anyway.
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I think this is joseki. I'm not sure if it's good for me here or not though. I'll have to look at some other possibilities.



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Maybe I can jump into the corner. at the end I defend at a he defends at b I have sente to play c reducing his ability to use his wall or approach my corner.




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If he blocks the other way though, the result isn't so good for me.



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The ladder works here for me, I think this would work well.


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This is fine for me too.



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If he ataris on the other side, I'm still okay.


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Now that I look at these two next to each other they actually look very similar. I thought I'd come up with something better but now it doesn't look better at all

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Old 2010-04-14, 06:30 PM   #15
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I don't see what is so bad about white's first diagram.

Wedging in between stones is generally not my first thought if I do not have much support around.

I'm also curious what white's responses are to moves like this black 3... (I threw down a few stones just show it could be messy, I didn't think hard about these.)



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Old 2010-04-14, 06:35 PM   #16
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I agree Sumiyaka. Let's not forget that the first diagram could easily look more like:



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Old 2010-04-14, 08:14 PM   #17
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well i didnt expect this response, and i only know about it vaguely from studying (never seen it in a game). this could turn out badly if i screw up. lets get on with it though. i think this is right
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