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Old 2010-04-11, 08:39 PM   #21
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Joaz, didn't you mean to hide those comments?

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Old 2010-04-11, 10:33 PM   #22
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Full disclosure: I did not read Joaz's unhidden comment, except I did see the words "aji keshi." Being out of context, it means very little to me. Joaz, is it really ok to read it yet?


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I was originally going to play at the marked point below. However, by doing a tewari analysis and removing two stones, we can see that after white forms an iron pillar, black would simply fill in the jump in his shape, and although it is not a terrible move (it removes some aji) it does feel like a rather slow response.



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So after thinking for a bit I came up with this move. It does a better job of splitting white's two groups while still protecting against the cuts if white pushes through my shape. Is it a good move? I don't know. However, I do not see any problems with it, so I'll see if magicwand does.

So many comments on (I presume) my last move. I really wish I could read them and see if people thought it sucked or was great or whatever. I wonder if 'c' in my last post really was better... Oh well, too late now!
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Old 2010-04-12, 03:12 AM   #23
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I take it back. If this was Black's plan, why not simply play at 3 without the exchange of B1 and W2? Obviously that exchange is good for White.

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Old 2010-04-12, 04:31 AM   #24
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intresting choice of move.. my original choice was "a"
but ...i am not taking any advantage off his akward moves.
there must be something i can do to make my shape better than black.
and "a" is not one of them. therefore i played as such.

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Old 2010-04-12, 06:58 AM   #25
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This is a hard game - but at least he has to worry about more groups than I do. I'm really second-guessing myself over move 8 - but I still have no clue if it was actually a bad move or not (I'm starting to think it was). Anyway, I played where I did because it removes the threat of the diagram below:



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My only problem is that if he peeps underneath my shape now I am left with a bunch of stones in semi-floating in the center of an upcoming pincer on his right group. I must not let him get both an extension from his right group and the peep in.
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Old 2010-04-12, 07:30 AM   #26
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this is what i expect. i got a free move with marked white stone that is a plus for me. and upper white is settled nicely with an escape to the middle. i am thinking the game is going nicely sofar.
Show Diagram Code[go]$$Bc this is what i expect. i got a free move with marked white stone that is a plus for me. and upper white is settled nicely with an escape to the middle. i am thinking the game is going nicely sofar.
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Old 2010-04-12, 01:29 PM   #27
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You cannot be serious. After pushing here, you must cut! If you do not cut, do not push before.


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Move #14
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He's going to let me hane at the head of his two stones? I don't see any danger in it, so I'll do so.

This is my guess at his next move, and what I plan on following it up with:



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Of course, I've considered other moves for him as well, but I don't want to make this section too exhaustive in this particular situation, given how uncertain I am of exactly where he will play. There is a time for detail and a time for brevity.
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i didnt read toomuch on his hane because i didnt think he can play that. i still refuse to read that because i trust my feeling. what he played is an overplay!!!
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Old 2010-04-12, 03:48 PM   #30
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Magicwand plays with such freedom and creativity. I want to play like that. My play is so boring and orthodox. Whenever I get creative it's just a big disaster!
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