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Old 2010-04-12, 03:58 PM   #31
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Magicwand plays with such freedom and creativity. I want to play like that. My play is so boring and orthodox. Whenever I get creative it's just a big disaster!
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Old 2010-04-12, 04:25 PM   #32
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Yes, my response to a monkey jump is anything but boring!
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Old 2010-04-12, 05:22 PM   #33
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sofar black shape became ugly as possible.
but that doesnt mean that he is going to fall.
i dont see any definte way for me to give him the final blow.
but it means that there are many traps in the variations that he has to avoid in order for him to come out close to even.


one example may be the ugly empty triangle. it is so~~ ugly i would never play as such...but if you look at it carefully it is pretty strong move. (it is like a very ugly girl who is good in bed). my main concern is that marked stone can not be caputred by net or ladder. i will have to make this game more complicated so he will make a mistake. a,b,c are some moves i am looking into.
Show Diagram Code[go]$$c one example may be the ugly empty triangle. it is so~~ ugly i would never play as such...but if you look at it carefully it is pretty strong move. (it is like a very ugly girl who is good in bed). my main concern is that marked stone can not be caputred by net or ladder. i will have to make this game more complicated so he will make a mistake. a,b,c are some moves i am looking into.
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Old 2010-04-12, 05:22 PM   #34
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I think that White is too optimistic. One should not call a move "overplay" without analysis. In this case, he doesn't even consider, e.g., Black wedging in at M16.

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Old 2010-04-12, 05:30 PM   #35
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Move #16
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I had prepared for this, but was not expecting it. It seems after the following sequence is played out, he has severe cuts at both 'a' and 'b':



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I may be crazy, but I can't see a good result at all coming for him out of this. I may be really missing something, but here are the variations I see, none of which appears bad for me.


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Old 2010-04-12, 05:41 PM   #36
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Move #17
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this is terriable for black. KYU level players!! take a note... THIS IS TERRIORABLE FOR BLACK! i didnt expect him to play this variations but he fell in to one of my trap. reason for my assessment is 1) he lost perfectly good marked stone into my moyo. 2)white has built solid moyo plus limited the movement of 1 stone that he hanned. 3) his corner is not his point yet because 3-3 is still open. his point gain is not that much if you analyize them carefully.
Show Diagram Code[go]$$c this is terriable for black. KYU level players!! take a note... THIS IS TERRIORABLE FOR BLACK! i didnt expect him to play this variations but he fell in to one of my trap. reason for my assessment is 1) he lost perfectly good marked stone into my moyo. 2)white has built solid moyo plus limited the movement of 1 stone that he hanned. 3) his corner is not his point yet because 3-3 is still open. his point gain is not that much if you analyize them carefully.
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Move #18
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Old 2010-04-12, 05:51 PM   #38
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Move #19
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Move #20
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Move #21
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