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Old 2010-04-09, 12:32 PM   #51
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Blah... I really want to cut. But I can't. Because of the weak move at R6, my position would fall apart if I tried to cut in any way.


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At least I don't have to worry about white's move too much. It... honestly doesn't do much. First. I should make this group stronger before aiming at white's weaknesses.

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Old 2010-04-09, 12:57 PM   #52
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i think white is ahead. black is crowling under and about to be buried.
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Old 2010-04-09, 02:03 PM   #53
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Blah... I really want to cut. But I can't. Because of the weak move at R6, my position would fall apart if I tried to cut in any way.
Thanks Violence. I think you answered my question (which you can't see yet )
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Old 2010-04-09, 02:10 PM   #54
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Move to come later after some thought...

Violence's move was actually #19, and magicwand's was #20.

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What follows is me just typing my thoughts as I think them.

Move 17 and 18 were both mistakes, they should have been where Violence and magicwand just played. We're lucky on account of the player rotation; if white had played at R11 with move 18 we would have a significantly worse position.

So the result is that the high dans played the (to me) obvious and essential shape moves, leaving me to come up with the next direction. Unfortunately this is a position where I don't know what to do.

White has made shape and is hard to attack (making me wonder if my move 15 (R10) was a mistake, but I'm not sure where else to put it; maybe the jump would have worked out? But the cuts looked like one would help white...).

I don't think I like our move at tengen now, it doesn't seem to be doing much. Perhaps I need to play a move to help that group. The other thing I'm thinking is that R12 is big for whoever gets it, but it might be gote. Hm, maybe I can jump to R13, then at least we're not pushing from behind. Yeah, R13 looks promising:


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Very big pointwise, prevents white from playing R12 which would make his group even more stable, but looks gote.

So, other possible moves:
* a: too far and too one-dimensional
* b: ...maybe. Seems far from any important areas, though. Doesn't feel sente.
* c: Might be promising, seems to threaten to cut.
* d: ...or can I just cut directly? And is that important?

Hm, it seems white can't prevent the cut:


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White has other responses but they don't look any better to me. Continuing from the last diagram, white can try tricky stuff like this but I don't think it comes to anything. (And it might even involve my favorite tesuji at 'a' below!)

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One drawback with this is that it requires Jordus to find B3, the hane to continue the cut, a move that only began to feel natural to me recently.

And what if white treats that stone lightly?


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Hm, W2 doesn't seem so good after B3. Wait, in looking at that I think I found white's response to the cut:


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I don't see any good black responses to this W2.

So, the other cut?


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There are other responses, but they all seem to damage the marked black stone.

Threaten the cut?


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Can't say that follow up is worth white getting R12. And white can connect in sente:


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OK, so I don't like any of those moves.

I'm thinking about white here again, and I don't actually think this is that good for white:


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So maybe that means that r13 is not so urgent for me. I would play R13, but it just doesn't seem to pressure white enough. It feel single-purpose.

So, I've eliminated all my moves. I will think more later.

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Old 2010-04-10, 03:49 PM   #55
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So far I've almost made two moves, but I keep thinking of more stuff.

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After thinking about it more:

* a: feels too slow. Have bad feeling that it's probably correct anyway.
* b: He can fix his problems in sente by leaning on our two space extension, so this is no good. Plus it doesn't help us that much.
* c: Looks like nice shape to me but as gote as possible.
* d: Better than c but probably requires follow-up.
* the cut (not shown): we determined last time that white has an effective dodge.

e: So, white is going to think about attacking our two lonely stones soonish, we need to do something about that. One of the d points (or the nearby shoulder hits) is probably the best way to go about helping them. But I don't know which one to choose, so I really want to play the 3-3 invasion as a probe: after white blocks and we complete the joseki, then we'll know how to reduce their framework best while helping our stones at the same time.

Sigh, I was all set to play e but I'm chickening out. If it goes wrong we'll end up with a bunch of weak stones in a huge white framework. Plus, after the joseki it'd be my turn again, and I don't really want to make the next strategic decision.

I guess I'll go with my first instinct. "A" feels slow, but it is large and leaves us with few weaknesses on the side.

Were this a KGS game, I'd play e and see what happened, but I don't want to screw my teammates. I feel like A gets at least 80% of what's available this move, but E is likely to be really bad (like -50%) or really good (85%) and I'm not sure what the chances are that it'll be one or the other.

I'm dying to know what stronger players think of all this, grr... haha

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I was about to hit submit, but then I thought of this:

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That looks huge for white...

Sigh, I'll have to continue this later.

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Old 2010-04-12, 11:02 AM   #56
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Sorry it took so long...

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Well, I've thought about this position to death. I still have no idea where to go. Playing this way to avoid "weird move after a long think" syndrome. I hope this doesn't screw our stones in the middle of the board.
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Old 2010-04-12, 01:55 PM   #57
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Some thoughts:

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Wow, this isn't easy, I'm going to go think about this for a little while:


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Old 2010-04-12, 02:33 PM   #58
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This is a difficult position. And an unfamiliar one.


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The Bible According to Bruce (Wilcox) says to break sector lines. W1 does that. "a", the move topazg is contemplating, seems too far from the top side. "b" is another possibility, but isolating Black's central group seems like a good idea.

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Feeling paranoid now. Anyone have suggestions on how to learn to deal with positions like this one?
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For me, the battle seems to be focused at the moment around the two middle groups, so it makes the most sense to take the move which makes the White group happy and the Black group sad. This seemed to fit the picture for me!


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Move A

I think this move is reasonably big, and makes a lovely shape feel to the whole left hand side. However, it's big, not urgent, it's gote, and there's a fair bit more temperature in that middle battle in my opinion.

Move B

I want the third line, because of Q3, but I don't like the gap between this and K3. If I push it back to N3, I don't like the shape in relation to P6. It feels like it doesn't quite do anything I want it to, so it makes sense to leave it until the middle resolves a bit more and gives more insight into the right location down there.

Move C

This move is two fold for me. It splits the top right from the top, hoping to attack the top two stones properly, and helps strengthen the group's ability to strike hard at Black's middle group. However, it is far too easy for Black to respond and settle his corner, while still deflecting the attack to his middle group that comes afterwards. The move screams aji-keshi at me.

Move D

I quite like this move. I think it's tight enough to the White group to be an effective extension, and far enough away from the Black group to be a pressuring attack as opposed to an unreasonable fight. If White can develop thickness here, he's close enough to Black's top edge that hopefully there may be attacking opportunities as well.
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