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RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[0.50]TM[1800]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
PW[akiaji]PB[rexcraft7]WR[6k]BR[7k]DT[2013-01-09]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[rexcraft7 [7k\]: hi
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;W[dp]WL[1792.37]
;B[cd]BL[1787.928]
;W[pd]WL[1788.966]
(;B[ec]BL[1767.513]C[maybe large knight move is better. faster

Dusk: This is fine.]
;W[cj]WL[1761.52]
;B[jq]BL[1749.597]
;W[jc]WL[1744.837]
;B[qj]BL[1743.121]LB[qf:B][pj:C][qq:A]TR[qj][jq]C[Having a double-low shape from your hoshi stone like this is suboptimal. Invading at 'A' now becomes a good point for white, and after the invasion lives your low stones will make it harder for you to develop. 'B' and 'C' are two better alternatives (not to say they're the only ones).]
;W[qh]WL[1734.837]
(;B[nj]BL[1708.463]C[Dusk: I agree with you, this is a bit thin.]
;W[qn]WL[1727.84]
(;B[pm]BL[1691.493]C[take corner. joseki.

Dusk: I don't understand how playing this move helps take the corner? 

Also, it's a common trap for players of around your strength to justify their moves by calling them joseki. THIS COULD NOT MATTER LESS. The only thing that matters is whether the resulting shape is good for you or not. Knowing joseki is just a tool to quickly see the possible variations that will unfold. Try to see the shape at the end of the joseki and decide whether or not it's good for you. If it's not, then playing that joseki will be a very bad sequence.

Witht that in mind, if you still like this move, perhaps you could post the variation(s) you were expecting, so we can evaluate their feasibility and the quality of the result?]
;W[qm]WL[1713.606]C[Dusk: I was trying to review this position, but from this point on the shapes just go so foreign to me (i.e. I wouldn't be in this situation as either player, because I feel both players have already made mistakes) that it became really hard for me to evaluate what the best moves are.

]
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;W[mn]WL[1438.325]
(;B[qf]BL[1292.305]
;W[pf]WL[1425.346]
(;B[pg]BL[1226.381]C[maybe better to innvade R17 at this point. keep things simple. joseki to secure corner with a L shape. ]
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;W[jh]WL[577.999]
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;W[mj]WL[467.522]
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;W[nc]WL[456.441]
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;W[sb]WL[445.023]
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;W[an]WL[437.723]
;B[ap]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[di]WL[320.189]
;B[dh]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[fk]WL[316.515]
;B[fl]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[lm]WL[298.292]
;B[gp]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[mp]WL[294.264]
;B[mr]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[hk]WL[265.242]
;B[fj]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[hl]WL[259.105]
;B[fi]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[gk]WL[251.587]
;B[gm]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[ll]WL[204.661]
;B[ml]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[im]WL[194.173]
;B[kk]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[kl]WL[188.059]
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;W[lf]WL[184.377]
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;W[id]WL[175.276]
;B[me]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[ei]WL[168.094]
;B[fd]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[gd]WL[163.692]
;B[ed]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[sh]WL[126.126]
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;W[ia]WL[120.287]
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;W[ak]WL[103.721]
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;W[bn]WL[92.745]
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;W[fp]WL[78.149]
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;W[qa]WL[63.652]
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;W[om]WL[32.52]
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;W[si]WL[15.16]
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;W[nn]WL[6.298]
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;W[oc]WL[0.979]
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;W[qe]WL[30]OW[5]
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;B[ho]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[jr]WL[30]OW[5]
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(;B[dk])
(;B[fl]
;W[fm]
;B[gm]))
(;B[ig]
;W[lk]
(;B[ik])
(;B[nk]
;W[hm]
;B[ij])))
(;B[ib]
(;W[gb]
;B[kb]
;W[jb]
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(;W[jb]
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;W[hc]
;B[fd]
;W[hd]
;B[ge]
(;W[he])
(;W[hf]
;B[gg]
;W[fg]
;B[gf])))))
(;B[fm]
;W[nl]
;B[rl]
;W[pj]
;B[pi]
;W[oj]
;B[oi]
;W[ok]
;B[nk]
;W[ol]))
(;B[fd]
(;W[cf]
;B[df]
;W[cg]
;B[dg]
;W[dh])
(;W[eh]
;B[hd]
;W[gd]
;B[ge]))
(;B[fh]))
(;B[ep]
;W[eo]
;B[fo]
;W[ej]
(;B[jo])
(;B[eh])))
(;W[co]))
(;B[co]
;W[cp]))
(;B[kb])
(;B[hc]))
(;B[rh]
;W[ri]
(;B[rg])
(;B[rc]
(;W[se])
(;W[rg]
;B[rf]
;W[sh]
;B[pe]
;W[of]
;B[oe]
;W[nf]
;B[oc]
;W[od]
(;B[nd]
;W[qd]
;B[qe]
;W[rd])
(;B[qd]
;W[pc]
;B[qc]
;W[ne]
;B[qe])))))
(;B[qg]
;W[og])
(;B[qc]
;W[qd]
(;B[rd]
;W[re]
;B[rc]
;W[pc]
;B[pb]
;W[ob]
;B[qa]
;W[rb]
;B[qb]
;W[sd]
;B[sc])
(;B[rc]
;W[rd]
;B[ob])))
(;W[qg]
(;B[pe]
;W[of]
;B[ph]
;W[qe]
;B[rf]
;W[pi]
(;B[qi])
(;B[oh]
;W[oi]
;B[nh]
;W[qi]))
(;B[qc]
;W[qd]
(;B[rd]
(;W[re]
;B[pc]
;W[rc]
;B[rb]
;W[sd]
;B[nc]
;W[oc]
;B[ob]
(;W[qb]
;B[pb])
(;W[pb]
;B[qb]
;W[nb]
;B[pa]))
(;W[pc]
(;B[pb])
(;B[qb]
;W[re]
;B[pb]
;W[rc]
;B[rb]
;W[sd]
;B[nc]
;W[mb]
;B[ob])))
(;B[pc]
;W[rd]
;B[nc]))))
(;B[rh]
(;W[rg]
;B[qg]
;W[ri]
;B[rf]
;W[sh]
;B[qc]
;W[qd]
;B[rd]
;W[pc]
;B[qb])
(;W[qg]
;B[rg]
;W[rf]
;B[qi]
;W[qe]))
(;B[qg]
(;W[pg]
(;B[ph]
;W[pi]
;B[oh]
;W[qi]
;B[pe]
;W[oe]
;B[qe])
(;B[rh]
;W[ri]
(;B[rg])
(;B[rc]
;W[rg]
;B[rf]
;W[sh]
;B[pb])))
(;W[ph]
(;B[qd]
;W[qc]
;B[pc]
;W[qe]
;B[rd]
;W[re]
;B[rf])
(;B[rh]
;W[ri]
(;B[qi]
;W[rg]
;B[rf]
;W[sh]
;B[qc]
(;W[rd]
;B[qd])
(;W[qd]
;B[rd]
;W[pc]
;B[qb]))
(;B[rg]
(;W[qe]
;B[qi])
(;W[qi]
(;B[qc]
;W[qd]
;B[rd]
;W[pc]
;B[qb]
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;W[qc]
;B[rc])
(;B[rc]
;W[qd]
;B[rd]
;W[qb]
;B[qc]
;W[pc]
;B[pb]
;W[ob]
;B[rb]
;W[pa]
;B[qe])))
(;B[rc]
;W[qe]
;B[re]
;W[rd]
;B[sd]
;W[qd]
;B[rf]
;W[qc]
;B[rb]))))
(;B[qc]
;W[qd]
;B[pc]
;W[od]
;B[rd]
;W[re]
;B[rc]
(;W[oc]
;B[qe]
;W[rf]
;B[rg]
;W[qg])
(;W[qe]
;B[nc])))
(;B[pf]
(;W[ph]
;B[nf]
;W[nh]
;B[oc]
;W[od]
;B[nd]
;W[nc]
;B[mc]
;W[ob]
;B[ld])
(;W[qf]
(;B[qe]
(;W[pe])
(;W[pg]
;B[pe]
;W[qd]
;B[od]))
(;B[pg]
;W[qg]
;B[mg])))
(;B[pg]
;W[qg]
;B[pf]
;W[qf]
;B[mg]))
(;B[oo]
;W[no]
;B[on]
;W[po]
;B[qp]
;W[rp]
;B[qr]
;W[qo]
;B[lq]
;W[mr]
;B[nr]
;W[ns]
;B[or]
;W[lr]
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(;B[kq]
;W[kr]
;B[jr]
;W[rr]
;B[ms]
;W[ls]
;B[js]
;W[qs]
;B[ks]
;W[ms]
;B[os])))
(;B[qp]
(;W[hq]
;B[jo])
(;W[lp]
;B[gq]
;W[jo])))
(;B[no]
;W[on]
;B[qp])
(;B[qp]TR[nj][qj]C[Dusk: Personally, in this shape, I would go here. I think approaching the corner (at least from this side) was a small mistake by white (capping K5 followed by 3-3 invasion or just a direct 3-3 invasion seem better to me). As black, I wouldn't kick here though, because of the thinness of the two marked black stones.]))
(;B[oj]C[Dusk: This would be okay.])
(;B[qm]LB[qc:D][ch:C][qh:B][qm:A]TR[qj]C[Dusk: This would be a bad move. It lowers the value of your triangled stone. Think of it this way - if you had played 'A', then white played 'B', would you play the triangled move? Hopefully not. There are bigger points on the board, such as 'C' and 'D'. Thus, I don't like this suggestion.]))
(;B[jc]LB[dc:B][ec:A][hc:E][ed:C][df:D]C[Dusk: This move is not as good IMO. If white approaches your 3-4 stone, this move doesn't really function as much of a pincer, as after a sequence such as white A-Black D, white can still make a two-space extension with E.]))