(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[2400]OT[5x40 byo-yomi]
PW[herminator]PB[Tabemasu]BR[6d]DT[2010-09-14]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[Tabemasu [6d\]: Have a good game
herminator [-\]: have fun! :)
]RE[B+26.50]
;B[pd]BL[2390.119]
;W[dc]WL[2396.808]
;B[pq]BL[2384.26]
;W[dq]WL[2394.051]
;B[de]BL[2347.681]
;W[ce]WL[2380.923]
;B[cf]BL[2324.017]
;W[cd]WL[2377.261]
;B[cn]BL[2289.719]
;W[dk]WL[2245.237]
;B[cq]BL[2228.207]
;W[cp]WL[2211.245]
;B[dp]BL[2224.974]
;W[bq]WL[2177.477]
;B[cr]BL[2222.286]
;W[do]WL[2174.471]
;B[ep]BL[2220.58]
;W[co]WL[2172.918]
;B[br]BL[2217.901]
;W[fo]WL[2168.472]
;B[eo]BL[2213.768]
;W[en]WL[2166.98]
;B[eq]BL[2212.098]
;W[dn]WL[2163.847]
;B[gf]BL[2208.102]
;W[gd]WL[2099.656]
;B[ic]BL[2165.483]C[Shadonra [2d\]: so.. anyone care to wager how strong w is?
zeku [1k\]: dutch 4d
Shadonra [2d\]: cheater
seikenguy [1k\]: Gus was a mexican ghost.
]
;W[gc]WL[1898.935]
;B[ie]BL[2140.458]
;W[po]WL[1882.905]
;B[qm]BL[2123.594]C[Prutser [5k\]: I know how strong W is :-)
Pimpernel [7k\]: how?
Prutser [5k\]: He is a dutch 4d
hoogly [6k\]: de veras?
Choup [1k\]: ...
]
;W[on]WL[1473.283]C[BOKITO [2k\]: wow that took long
]
;B[om]BL[2106.91]
;W[nm]WL[1470.124]
;B[pm]BL[2103.235]
;W[nl]WL[1465.98]
;B[qo]BL[2076.787]C[tooob93 [15k\]: he must have read far..
]
;W[pp]WL[1394.974]
;B[qp]BL[2074.584]
;W[oq]WL[1393.254]
;B[pr]BL[2072.295]C[Prutser [5k\]: he's strong at reading
]
;W[or]WL[1318.494]
;B[gp]BL[2019.269]
;W[ip]WL[1302.887]
;B[fn]BL[1999.276]C[stoup [3k\]: pourquoi noir coupe ?
]
;W[gn]WL[1173.126]C[Nefeste [5k\]: her minator..
]
;B[fm]BL[1973.259]
;W[go]WL[1170.535]
;B[gm]BL[1964.017]
;W[fp]WL[1093.503]
;B[fq]BL[1959.595]
;W[gq]WL[1091.69]
;B[gr]BL[1903.269]
;W[hp]WL[1040.375]
;B[hr]BL[1882.882]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: minotaur
]
;W[gk]WL[1028.346]
;B[im]BL[1804.307]
;W[ik]WL[1006.71]
;B[jo]BL[1771.692]
;W[in]WL[945.117]
;B[jn]BL[1704.647]C[ProoMas [8k\]: J5 can be played?
ProoMas [8k\]: ah ;/
]
;W[hm]WL[938.452]
;B[hl]BL[1699.295]
;W[hn]WL[936.225]
;B[il]BL[1687.203]
;W[gl]WL[934.083]
;B[hk]BL[1679.798]
;W[jm]WL[903.935]
;B[km]BL[1639.755]
;W[hj]WL[880.26]
;B[jl]BL[1635.596]C[Hanne [3k\]: that looked silly
Ansimor [16k\]: why that?
]
;W[ij]WL[848.525]C[Hanne [3k\]: w cut and let b eat the cutting stone
drops: looked like he changed his mind in the middle of it
]
;B[gj]BL[1587.131]
;W[fl]WL[840.453]
;B[gi]BL[1580.145]C[Hanne [3k\]: looks like a bit overplay
Shadonra [2d\]: i disagree
Shadonra [2d\]: b can't let w connect those stones
mester [1d\]: it was good to cut b into 2 week groups
Hanne [3k\]: ya but k7 was useless no?
Vador [3k?\]: (smaller groups than two month groups ;-)
LEIBNIZ [3k\]: J10 are too weak to hold
Shadonra [2d\]: i dunno about that hanne
]
;W[ih]WL[717.878]
;B[kj]BL[1544.568]C[Vador [3k?\]: Only 2 stones in NE corner, all black !
]
;W[ki]WL[670.569]
;B[lj]BL[1534.156]C[LEIBNIZ [3k\]: b making good shape
Ansimor [16k\]: white seems to be in difficulty
Vador [3k?\]: L13 ? N12 ?
CptHook [4k?\]: m11 better?
Shadonra [2d\]: w is aiming at g12, i think
mester [1d\]: j6 at k4 was better?
CptHook [4k?\]: l3?
]
;W[gg]WL[477.685]
;B[fg]BL[1501.582]
;W[fh]WL[466.514]
;B[hi]BL[1446.04]C[begood [6k\]: if W J11 then B G12 W J13 B F9 WE7 and then B kills F12 nice ☺
]
;W[hf]WL[318.928]C[Hanne [3k\]: w fights like a killer lobster
]
;B[gh]BL[1349.873]
;W[hg]WL[314.206]
;B[ii]BL[1338.971]C[Vic [?\]: hmm killer shrimp
]
;W[fi]WL[147.699]
;B[fj]BL[1332.42]
;W[eg]WL[146.464]
;B[dj]BL[1320.023]
;W[ff]WL[131.157]
;B[ek]BL[1313.826]
;W[ck]WL[111.26]
;B[el]BL[1307.21]
;W[em]WL[108.409]
;B[cj]BL[1303.932]
;W[bj]WL[85.261]C[mictromb [1d\]: R14
Ansimor [16k\]: white thinks a lot... now he has no time!
]
;B[dl]BL[1289.343]
;W[cl]WL[73.889]C[nanok [12k?\]: there's still byoyomi
Ansimor [16k\]: only 40 seconds
]
;B[cm]BL[1245.659]C[nanok [12k?\]: per move, 5 times. it's enough
]
;W[dm]WL[56.678]C[Ansimor [16k\]: let's see..
]
;B[bi]BL[1234.964]
;W[bk]WL[54.242]
;B[aj]BL[1223.352]
;W[bm]WL[44.776]
;B[nd]BL[1218.889]
;W[qf]WL[22.87]
;B[qe]BL[1215.411]
;W[pf]WL[14.286]
;B[pi]BL[1202.427]C[Hanne [3k\]: why is r14 played?
Hanne [3k\]: err r15
Stable [1k\]: to attack w
Hanne [3k\]: this attachment.. i don't understand
BOKITO [2k\]: to make him heavy
Hanne [3k\]: is it preparation of pincer?
]
;W[qh]WL[40]OW[5]
;B[qi]BL[1198.119]
;W[ph]WL[40]OW[5]C[Stable [1k\]: yes - heavy then attack
BOKITO [2k\]: otherwise w can slide to s16 and have an easy time
]
;B[ri]BL[1182.242]
;W[mg]WL[40]OW[5]
;B[np]BL[1161.479]C[Stable [1k\]: I'm surprised at q11 instead of r11 tho
]
;W[op]WL[40]OW[5]
;B[no]BL[1156.926]
;W[nn]WL[40]OW[5]
;B[lp]BL[1145.673]C[BOKITO [2k\]: huh? these peeps seem bad for b
Silverine [-\]: q11 forces w to go down
mictromb [1d\]: the cut in O6 sems better
Silverine [-\]: r11 would just push him up to connect
Hanne [3k\]: i think b wins this game
begood [6k\]: W in C11 now or latre?
Vador [3k?\]: I know some W who is going to be in very bad position soon !
]
;W[qn]WL[40]OW[4]C[Silverine [-\]: cuttt
Athanor [-\]: no way
CptHook [4k?\]: mistake
Athanor [-\]: kill it all
Stable [1k\]: sure, but down is base
nanok [12k?\]: w seems to be nearly dead down there
Athanor [-\]: if q6 s6 p5 r3 
Athanor [-\]: w will live
]
;B[pn]BL[1104.143]C[mictromb [1d\]: S3
Silverine [-\]: hehe
Silverine [-\]: r6 bad mistake
]
;W[rn]WL[40]OW[4]C[BOKITO [2k\]: is it really a mistake?
]
;B[rq]BL[1088.373]C[Silverine [-\]: what now?
Athanor [-\]: better s3
]
;W[oo]WL[40]OW[4]C[nanok [12k?\]: now "run!"
Hanne [3k\]: p5.. brilliant
Silverine [-\]: o10 nonchallantly
]
;B[pk]BL[1051.544]
;W[lo]WL[40]OW[4]C[Concinnity [6k\]: Q9 would've been goody for whitem shame.
CptHook [4k?\]: p5 normal move
Onmyoji [-\]: p5 pro move
]
;B[mn]BL[1029.92]C[Onmyoji [-\]: so strong
Silverine [-\]: p5 only move
]
;W[lq]WL[40]OW[4]C[nanok [12k?\]: interesting. he's not running :)
]
;B[mq]BL[1013.266]C[Shadonra [2d\]: there's nowhere to run
nanok [12k?\]: this will be interesting
]
;W[kp]WL[40]OW[4]C[Concinnity [6k\]: He can neither run, nor hide.
drjeanpoul [9k\]: nowhere to hide
Silverine [-\]: no time to bide
]
;B[mp]BL[962.273]
;W[mr]WL[40]OW[4]
;B[kq]BL[952.898]C[Silverine [-\]: no horse to ride
]
;W[lr]WL[40]OW[4]
;B[jp]BL[945.071]C[Athanor [-\]: wait for the tide
Silverine [-\]: err w lose
Silverine [-\]: I will suggest
nanok [12k?\]: k3?
]
;W[jq]WL[40]OW[4]
;B[ko]BL[942.197]C[Silverine [-\]: aa l2
nanok [12k?\]: so he did manage to "run"
Silverine [-\]: nah
CptHook [4k?\]: k2
Silverine [-\]: l2 j3
Silverine [-\]: miai
]
;W[jr]WL[40]OW[4]
;B[iq]BL[930.348]
;W[kr]WL[40]OW[4]C[Silverine [-\]: l2 half sente
Silverine [-\]: o3 to be safe
]
;B[ld]BL[908.19]C[Hanne [3k\]: w plays cool stuff. but will it suffice?
Silverine [-\]: ah. lives
]
;W[nj]WL[40]OW[4]C[Shadonra [2d\]: w still losing
nanok [12k?\]: yeah, lives without connecting even
nanok [12k?\]: nice
Silverine [-\]: because o3 is sente
BOKITO [2k\]: why o10?
]
;B[oi]BL[853.289]C[MagicDone [3k?\]: to connect
]
;W[me]WL[40]OW[4]C[BOKITO [2k\]: why connect when it's alive?
CptHook [4k?\]: o3 false eye
]
;B[md]BL[846.02]C[MagicDone [3k?\]: it's not alive
]
;W[mi]WL[40]OW[4]C[MagicDone [3k?\]: o3 p1 
CptHook [4k?\]: jup
]
;B[nh]BL[830.807]C[Silverine [-\]: o3 p1 l4
]
;W[mh]WL[40]OW[4]C[Silverine [-\]: chases it out
MagicDone [3k?\]: n5  etc
Silverine [-\]: and W goes out
]
;B[hb]BL[784.006]C[csgo [?\]: w c11 looks hugh
]
;W[ci]WL[40]OW[4]
;B[di]BL[781.28]C[BOKITO [2k\]: r17 possible?
]
;W[ch]WL[40]OW[4]
;B[dh]BL[779.762]
;W[dg]WL[40]OW[4]
;B[cg]BL[777.172]
;W[bh]WL[40]OW[4]
;B[ah]BL[776.44]
;W[ai]WL[40]OW[4]C[CptHook [4k?\]: why b let him go out
]
;B[oe]BL[763.258]
;W[bi]WL[40]OW[4]C[Concinnity [6k\]: It looks like black can win without killing anything
]
;B[ng]BL[754.827]C[Stable [1k\]: b let w out to get attack on r12
]
;W[qc]WL[40]OW[4]C[Stable [1k\]: I think
Hanne [3k\]: b just killed sth tho
CptHook [4k?\]: i think because n2 is alive j2 sente- and o2
Onmyoji [-\]: w should resign
BOKITO [2k\]: really? I thought he was doing better now
nanok [12k?\]: he should definetly not. i am enjoying this game
nanok [12k?\]: :)
Onmyoji [-\]: i count b+5.5
]
;B[rd]BL[617.804]C[Onmyoji [-\]: what is your count everyone?
]
;W[rc]WL[40]OW[4]
;B[qd]BL[615.696]C[Rookwood [2k\]: b right bigger than w left
]
;W[pc]WL[40]OW[4]
;B[oc]BL[612.965]
;W[ob]WL[40]OW[4]
;B[nb]BL[607.79]
;W[oa]WL[40]OW[4]C[CptHook [4k?\]: s18?
MagicDone [3k?\]: r19 
csgo [?\]: looks like ko
Hanne [3k\]: my count is the highest of all
Onmyoji [-\]: how much?
CptHook [4k?\]: i dont see a ko
Hanne [3k\]: about the number of hydrogen atoms in our galaxy
]
;B[sc]BL[440.707]C[Onmyoji [-\]: lol
MagicDone [3k?\]: It's calculating
]
;W[sb]WL[40]OW[3]C[Onmyoji [-\]: there cant be that many points for the player
]
;B[ra]BL[436.818]
;W[qa]WL[40]OW[3]
;B[qb]BL[435.772]
;W[pb]WL[40]OW[3]C[Onmyoji [-\]: you made a mistake somewhere
]
;B[pa]BL[435.024]C[Hanne [3k\]: with ko, yes
Onmyoji [-\]: no
Onmyoji [-\]: not even with ko
Hanne [3k\]: triple ko
Onmyoji [-\]: no
nanok [12k?\]: you run out of threats. unless you have a bunch of ko's
]
;W[fr]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[er]BL[431.365]
;W[qa]WL[40]OW[2]C[Onmyoji [-\]: triple ko is just no result
Hanne [3k\]: i have to think about this
Onmyoji [-\]: ok
]
;B[fb]BL[361.208]
;W[sd]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[se]BL[357.799]
;W[na]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[mb]BL[346.714]
;W[gb]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[pa]BL[335.379]
;W[re]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[rf]BL[330.886]
;W[qa]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[ga]BL[325.833]
;W[ma]WL[40]OW[2]C[CptHook [4k?\]: i would play p1 instead of f18
]
;B[kb]BL[312.267]
;W[rb]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[ca]BL[302.372]
;W[cb]WL[40]OW[2]C[Concinnity [6k\]: If both players want to then they can keep trading stones until they both have a very large number of points. Though the easiest way would be with repeating shapes. I wonder if that is legal.
]
;B[ea]BL[275.954]
;W[ba]WL[40]OW[2]C[Hanne [3k\]: what about super ko rule?
]
;B[da]BL[270.013]C[Concinnity [6k\]: In my case there would be no ko.
]
;W[ka]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[ja]BL[266.318]
;W[la]WL[40]OW[2]C[Onmyoji [-\]: what game is that
]
;B[bb]BL[257.751]
;W[bc]WL[40]OW[2]C[Hanne [3k\]: i thought super ko rule just means there can be no duplicate position
]
;B[aa]BL[255.397]C[Concinnity [6k\]: Go
]
;W[lb]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[kc]BL[253.285]C[Concinnity [6k\]: Not all rule-sets have super ko rule though
]
;W[bp]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[ec]BL[245.88]
;W[ed]WL[40]OW[2]C[Hanne [3k\]: i wonder if kgs has it..
]
;B[db]BL[240.356]C[Concinnity [6k\]: kgs isn't a ruleset
]
;W[cc]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[fc]BL[237.905]
;W[fd]WL[40]OW[2]C[Stable [1k\]: it is effectively
Stable [1k\]: kgs japanese rules and so on
]
;B[mk]BL[207.461]C[Concinnity [6k\]: If you like then kgs is a set of rule sets.
]
;W[nk]WL[40]OW[2]C[Concinnity [6k\]: No, kgs includes a set of rule sets.
Stable [1k\]: hehe
Concinnity [6k\]: Let's count!
Stable [1k\]: but KGS Japanese rules =/= official Japanese rules
]
;B[kf]BL[171.959]C[Stable [1k\]: I feel like RJ, I'll stop now
]
;W[kg]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[lf]BL[165.302]
;W[mf]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[ji]BL[157.738]
;W[kh]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[ps]BL[144.928]
;W[os]WL[40]OW[2]C[CptHook [4k?\]: why q1
Concinnity [6k\]: Black +>10 it looks
Stable [1k\]: I have black + lots any other counts?
]
;B[kp]BL[87.328]C[Stable [1k\]: at least b+15
]
;W[ro]WL[40]OW[2]C[Hanne [3k\]: !
Concinnity [6k\]: s5 is defeat speaking
Stable [1k\]: defeat or genius
]
;B[rm]BL[52.716]C[CptHook [4k?\]: w recognized right side will decide
]
;W[ml]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[ll]BL[49.065]
;W[mj]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[lk]BL[45.939]C[Stable [1k\]: OK, I guess not genius
]
;W[jd]WL[40]OW[2]C[Concinnity [6k\]: Maybe it's more desperation than defeat.
Hanne [3k\]: not every move can shine as brightly as p5...
]
;B[id]BL[27.048]
;W[mc]WL[40]OW[2]C[CptHook [4k?\]: not but he played s5 
]
;B[nc]BL[23.875]
;W[lc]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[le]BL[14.858]
;W[jf]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[je]BL[12.67]
;W[hc]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[if]BL[40]OB[5]
;W[ib]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[ha]BL[40]OB[5]
;W[jb]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[jc]BL[40]OB[5]
;W[ig]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[he]BL[40]OB[5]
;W[ge]WL[40]OW[2]C[CptHook [4k?\]: if b read that he is genius
]
;B[ir]BL[40]OB[5]
;W[is]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[nq]BL[40]OB[5]
;W[nr]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[aq]BL[40]OB[5]
;W[ap]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[ar]BL[40]OB[5]C[Concinnity [6k\]: If not, then he's lucky.
CptHook [4k?\]: no, only 6d
]
;W[mm]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[lm]BL[40]OB[5]
;W[nf]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[of]BL[40]OB[5]
;W[ol]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[pl]BL[40]OB[5]
;W[oj]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[pj]BL[40]OB[5]
;W[hq]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[io]BL[40]OB[5]
;W[hs]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[fs]BL[40]OB[5]
;W[ho]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[jg]BL[40]OB[5]
;W[jh]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[gs]BL[40]OB[5]
;W[js]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[ac]BL[40]OB[5]
;W[ad]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[ba]BL[40]OB[5]
;W[sc]WL[40]OW[2]C[kevinwm [3k\]: a15
Stable [1k\]: a18 sente
]
;B[ab]BL[40]OB[5]
;W[dd]WL[40]OW[2]C[kevinwm [3k\]: I would've taken the ko
]
;B[jf]BL[40]OB[5]
;W[eh]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[ej]BL[40]OB[5]C[Stable [1k\]: b already winning, can be happy with the extra point
]
;W[lg]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[li]BL[40]OB[5]C[kevinwm [3k\]: Ah - no ko even
kevinwm [3k\]: a15 b15
]
;W[ei]WL[40]OW[2]C[kevinwm [3k\]: oiotoshi
]
;B[jj]BL[40]OB[5]C[Stable [1k\]: oh yes
]
;W[hh]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[ni]BL[40]OB[5]C[Stable [1k\]: good spot
]
;W[lh]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[ne]BL[40]OB[5]
;W[ok]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[fk]BL[40]OB[5]
;W[hd]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[]BL[40]OB[5]
;W[]WL[40]OW[2]TW[pa][ra][sa][qb][bd][ae][be][de][ee][fe][af][bf][cf][df][ef][gf][ag][bg][cg][fg][ah][aj][ak][al][bl][am][cm][fm][gm][an][bn][cn][fn][ao][bo][gp][ks][ls][ms][ns]TB[fa][ia][eb][ib][jb][jd][kd][od][ke][pe][re][pf][qf][sf][og][pg][qg][rg][sg][oh][ph][qh][rh][sh][si][hj][ij][qj][rj][sj][ik][jk][kk][qk][rk][sk][kl][ql][rl][sl][jm][sm][kn][ln][qn][rn][sn][lo][mo][ro][so][rp][sp][dq][qq][sq][dr][fr][qr][rr][sr][as][bs][cs][ds][es][qs][rs][ss]C[Tabemasu [6d\]: Thanks for the game
herminator [-\]: thanks :)
Tabemasu [6d\]: Complicated
Tabemasu [6d\]: Haha
herminator [-\]: yeah
herminator [-\]: losing the three stones in the center made you strong al around
Tabemasu [6d\]: Yes
herminator [-\]: then I was in tourble :)
Tabemasu [6d\]: Hard after that for W
herminator [-\]: yeah, black just turns most of the right side into points because I have to defend all the time
herminator [-\]: And the left was still ko
Tabemasu [6d\]: Yes
Tabemasu [6d\]: I think you had to tenuki on the left side
Tabemasu [6d\]: And fight on top
Tabemasu [6d\]: Because you are thick maybe you can attack my 2 stones
herminator [-\]: yes
herminator [-\]: the left is just points
Tabemasu [6d\]: I felt after I got sente on the left the game was over
herminator [-\]: and I needed more than just points
herminator [-\]: yes
Tabemasu [6d\]: Yes, needed to fight hard to win :)
Tabemasu [6d\]: Anyway, I have to go now
herminator [-\]: Anyway, nice game :)
herminator [-\]: yes, see you around!
Tabemasu [6d\]: I will report the result later if you don't
herminator [-\]: ok
Tabemasu [6d\]: See you later
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