(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[0.50]TM[900]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
PW[Wasuji]PB[Kheldragar]WR[5k]BR[7k]DT[2014-07-03]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[Wasuji [5k\]: Takemiya is black
Wasuji [5k\]: Rin Kaiho is white
]RE[W+Resign]
(;B[pd]BL[895.117]
(;W[cc]WL[890.864]
;B[qo]BL[895.117]
;W[dq]WL[890.864]
;B[do]BL[895.117]
;W[co]WL[890.864]
;B[cn]BL[895.117]
;W[cp]WL[890.864]
;B[dn]BL[895.117]
;W[fq]WL[890.864]
;B[cj]BL[895.117]
;W[nc]WL[890.864]
;B[lc]BL[895.117]
;W[qc]WL[890.864]
;B[pc]BL[895.117]
;W[qd]WL[890.864]
;B[pe]BL[895.117]
;W[pb]WL[890.864]
;B[ob]BL[895.117]
;W[qb]WL[890.864]
;B[oc]BL[895.117]
;W[qf]WL[890.864]C[Kheldragar [7k\]: I have 0 3-3 experience
Kheldragar [7k\]: How the hell do I approach that
Kheldragar [7k\]: I'll just see what happens
]
;B[dd]BL[895.117]C[Kheldragar [7k\]: With this agani
Wasuji [5k\]: d16 is possible, so is f17 and c14
]
;W[dc]WL[890.864]C[Kheldragar [7k\]: What about f16
]
;B[ed]BL[895.117]C[Wasuji [5k\]: sure
]
;W[be]WL[890.864]
;B[dg]BL[895.117]C[Wasuji [5k\]: fyi, I hate this joseki
]
;W[fb]WL[890.864]
;B[hd]BL[895.117]
;W[oq]WL[890.864]C[Kheldragar [7k\]: ...
Kheldragar [7k\]: Why p3
Kheldragar [7k\]: Nooooooo
Kheldragar [7k\]: Not p3
Kheldragar [7k\]: I wanted q3
Kheldragar [7k\]: :(
Wasuji [5k\]: I know
Wasuji [5k\]: that's why I played p3
]
;B[np]BL[895.117]
;W[nq]WL[890.864]
;B[mp]BL[895.117]
;W[pp]WL[890.864]
;B[po]BL[895.117]
;W[qp]WL[890.864]
;B[rp]BL[895.117]
;W[rq]WL[890.864]
;B[ro]BL[895.117]
;W[qr]WL[890.864]
;B[qj]BL[895.117]C[Kheldragar [7k\]: Okay
Kheldragar [7k\]: Fuseki is over
Kheldragar [7k\]: I'd say
]
;W[iq]WL[890.864]C[Wasuji [5k\]: now it's over
Kheldragar [7k\]: So
Kheldragar [7k\]: White has all four corners
Kheldragar [7k\]: Black has all the influence
Kheldragar [7k\]: This keeps happening
Wasuji [5k\]: it's your style
Kheldragar [7k\]: Maybe I need to go all lee changho
Kheldragar [7k\]: 180
Wasuji [5k\]: tough to do
Wasuji [5k\]: lee changho is closer to my style than yours
Kheldragar [7k\]: Whom am I close to
Kheldragar [7k\]: If you can name 2-3
Wasuji [5k\]: Takemiya
Kheldragar [7k\]: Because I should study those 3
Wasuji [5k\]: and...Sonoda 
Kheldragar [7k\]: What do you think of Hane Naoki
Wasuji [5k\]: and...maybe Kato Masao
Kheldragar [7k\]: and Otake hideo
Wasuji [5k\]: Otake is interesting
Wasuji [5k\]: hane naoki...
Wasuji [5k\]: not really familiar with his style
Kheldragar [7k\]: He is the one who wrote
Kheldragar [7k\]: "The art of creating a thick and strong game"
Wasuji [5k\]: Sure
Kheldragar [7k\]: heart of go series
Wasuji [5k\]: but you don't play a thick game
Wasuji [5k\]: you play a fast paced game
Kheldragar [7k\]: I want to
Wasuji [5k\]: why?
Kheldragar [7k\]: I want to be all thick and honte with no weaknesses
Wasuji [5k\]: if you want to study honte
Wasuji [5k\]: Study Rin Kaiho
Kheldragar [7k\]: I need to write some names down
Wasuji [5k\]: Have you ever seen a Takemiya game?
Kheldragar [7k\]: I've seen bits
Kheldragar [7k\]: Who is
Kheldragar [7k\]: Sonoda
Kheldragar [7k\]: What's his full name
Wasuji [5k\]: Sonoda Yuichi
Kheldragar [7k\]: I guess this fast paced crap is modern go's influence
Wasuji [5k\]: yeah
Kheldragar [7k\]: So I can add Shuusaku in there
Kheldragar [7k\]: Or old 1800's go players
Kheldragar [7k\]: from Japan
Wasuji [5k\]: thank Kitani and Go seigen and the Shin fuseki players
Kheldragar [7k\]: Well at least it's more diverse
Wasuji [5k\]: Let's look at a Takemiya game really quick
Kheldragar [7k\]: I'd want to see a go seigen vs a 9d from the 1800's
Kheldragar [7k\]: Shin fuseki vs old
Wasuji [5k\]: There was a game like that
Kheldragar [7k\]: 1930's
Wasuji [5k\]: when played vs Honinbo Shusai
Kheldragar [7k\]: I guess
Kheldragar [7k\]: Okay we'll let's see a takemiya game
Wasuji [5k\]: alright
])
(;W[dp]
;B[pp]
;W[dc]
;B[pj]
;W[nq]
;B[pn]
;W[pr]
;B[de]
;W[ce]
;B[cf]C[Kheldragar [7k\]: So with black's group not being completely settled
Kheldragar [7k\]: He can get a two space
]
;W[cd]
(;B[gf]C[Kheldragar [7k\]: Hmm
Kheldragar [7k\]: I know that pros usually leave it as is
Kheldragar [7k\]: And tenuki
Kheldragar [7k\]: Because cutting is too small
Kheldragar [7k\]: so sayeth battousai
Kheldragar [7k\]: g14 is weird
Wasuji [5k\]: takemiya invention
Kheldragar [7k\]: What does it do
Wasuji [5k\]: builds the center
]
;W[gc]C[Kheldragar [7k\]: Hmm
Wasuji [5k\]: right
]
;B[lq]C[Kheldragar [7k\]: So white plays two space
Kheldragar [7k\]: instead of one
Wasuji [5k\]: yeah
Kheldragar [7k\]: Wondering why
Kheldragar [7k\]: And you know what else
Kheldragar [7k\]: I'm wondering why the normal joseki is one space
Kheldragar [7k\]: If it's on the third line
Wasuji [5k\]: well
]
;W[qq]
;B[oq]
;W[or]
;B[np]
;W[mp]
;B[mq]
;W[nr]
;B[mo]
;W[dj]
;B[lp]
;W[ro]
;B[hd]
;W[hc]
;B[id]
;W[ic]
;B[jd]
;W[gj]
;B[ed]
;W[ec]
;B[ij]C[Wasuji [5k\]: moyo
Kheldragar [7k\]: I'm starstruck
Kheldragar [7k\]: I made a pun
Kheldragar [7k\]: :3
Wasuji [5k\]: so...this is an example of takemiya fuseki
Wasuji [5k\]: the game gets pretty complicated
Wasuji [5k\]: so I won't go over it all
Kheldragar [7k\]: We're only dealing with the fuseki
Kheldragar [7k\]: Anyways
])
(;B[df]C[Kheldragar [7k\]: Is ttwo too loose?
]
;W[jq]
;B[cj]
;W[gc]
;B[ec]C[Wasuji [5k\]: because black can do this
]
(;W[ed]C[Kheldragar [7k\]: Same move
]
;B[dd]C[Kheldragar [7k\]: Yeah this is punishment if white pincers
])
(;W[eb]
;B[fc]
;W[fb]
;B[gd]
;W[hc]
;B[hd]C[Kheldragar [7k\]: Okay
]))))
(;B[qd]BL[895.117]
;W[cc]WL[890.864]
;B[pq]BL[895.117]
;W[dq]WL[890.864]
;B[oc]BL[895.117]
;W[qj]WL[890.864]
;B[qn]BL[895.117]
;W[qg]WL[890.864]
;B[co]BL[895.117]
;W[ep]WL[890.864]
(;B[dn]BL[895.117]
;W[cp]WL[890.864]
;B[cj]BL[895.117]C[Kheldragar [7k\]: Okay
Kheldragar [7k\]: One more
]
;W[bp]WL[890.864]
;B[bo]BL[895.117]
;W[jq]WL[890.864]
;B[dd]BL[895.117]
;W[cd]WL[890.864]
;B[de]BL[895.117]
;W[dc]WL[890.864]TR[dn][bo][co]C[Kheldragar [7k\]: I don't know why anyone's told me my fuseki is good
Wasuji [5k\]: just play moyo
Kheldragar [7k\]: Why
Wasuji [5k\]: it's more natural for you
Wasuji [5k\]: don't fight your nature
Kheldragar [7k\]: Did I do way worse territorially
Wasuji [5k\]: yes
Kheldragar [7k\]: figures
Wasuji [5k\]: what kind of shape is this?
Kheldragar [7k\]: A smile
]
(;B[ec]BL[895.117]C[Wasuji [5k\]: this is a mistake
]
;W[ce]WL[890.864]
;B[df]BL[895.117]
;W[eb]WL[890.864]
;B[fc]BL[895.117]
;W[cg]WL[890.864]C[Kheldragar [7k\]: I cannot find a move
Kheldragar [7k\]: to attack your right side
Wasuji [5k\]: hard to attack
]
;B[jo]BL[895.117]
;W[lp]WL[890.864]
;B[iq]BL[895.117]
;W[ip]WL[890.864]
;B[jp]BL[895.117]
;W[hp]WL[890.864]
;B[kq]BL[895.117]
;W[jr]WL[890.864]
;B[kr]BL[895.117]
;W[ir]WL[890.864]
;B[kp]BL[895.117]
;W[on]WL[890.864]
;B[pl]BL[895.117]
;W[ln]WL[890.864]C[Kheldragar [7k\]: there
Kheldragar [7k\]: Middle game now
Wasuji [5k\]: how about this opening?
Kheldragar [7k\]: Bad for me
Kheldragar [7k\]: in my opinion
Wasuji [5k\]: upper left is not great
Kheldragar [7k\]: Wall with no base
Kheldragar [7k\]: One wall I need to take gote to connect
Kheldragar [7k\]: At least I can attack two at once
Kheldragar [7k\]: qith q8
Kheldragar [7k\]: But that's about it
])
(;B[ce]
;W[fd]
(;B[ej]C[Wasuji [5k\]: you could do this
Kheldragar [7k\]: Is that a moyo I see
])
(;B[dh]C[Wasuji [5k\]: if you want to be more conservative
]))
(;B[gd])
(;B[fd]
;W[ec]
;B[ff]C[Kheldragar [7k\]: Q¬Q
]))
(;B[dk]C[Kheldragar [7k\]: Don't see the diagonal a lot
Wasuji [5k\]: I don't like f5 very much
Kheldragar [7k\]: I think d6 was one of those really old replies
Kheldragar [7k\]: That no one uses anymore
Wasuji [5k\]: d6 is possible
Wasuji [5k\]: but it's weird
Kheldragar [7k\]: It's old
Kheldragar [7k\]: And not joseki anymore
Wasuji [5k\]: I just stick to kitani joseki
]
;W[cp]
;B[do]
;W[bp]))
(;B[pd]BL[895.117]C[Kheldragar [7k\]: err
Kheldragar [7k\]: undo
]
;W[cc]WL[890.864]C[Kheldragar [7k\]: Lemme undo mine
Kheldragar [7k\]: 4-4 too much of a habit
])
(;B[pd]BL[898.655]
;W[dd]WL[897.833]
;B[pp]BL[897.701]
;W[dq]WL[894.552]
;B[pj]BL[896.534]
;W[nq]WL[892.624]
;B[pn]BL[895.118]
;W[jp]WL[890.864]
(;B[do]BL[893.195]
;W[dl]WL[887.756]
;B[cq]BL[888.729]
;W[cr]WL[885.604]
;B[cp]BL[883.8]
;W[dp]WL[883.868]
;B[br]BL[877.51]
;W[co]WL[881.329]
;B[bo]BL[873.671]
;W[cn]WL[879.144]
;B[bn]BL[870.441]
;W[cm]WL[876.229]
;B[dr]BL[863.55]
;W[er]WL[874.294]
;B[cs]BL[862.802]
;W[eo]WL[872.099]
;B[fc]BL[861.345]
;W[cf]WL[868.298]
;B[jd]BL[855.954]
;W[db]WL[864.63]
;B[mo]BL[846.47]
;W[qf]WL[860.783]
;B[qe]BL[842.979]
;W[pf]WL[856.596]
;B[nd]BL[840.461]
;W[ph]WL[854.458]C[Kheldragar [7k\]: Okay
Kheldragar [7k\]: I think the fuseki is over
Wasuji [5k\]: comfortable with this opening?
Kheldragar [7k\]: Not with the lower left but I don't know any two space high pincer joseki
Kheldragar [7k\]: Too low
Kheldragar [7k\]: Too good of a wall
Kheldragar [7k\]: But sente at least
Wasuji [5k\]: also...moyo
Kheldragar [7k\]: I did that on purpose
Kheldragar [7k\]: This time
Kheldragar [7k\]: I never play sanrensei
Wasuji [5k\]: Try not too play moyo
Kheldragar [7k\]: Well
Kheldragar [7k\]: What do you think though
Wasuji [5k\]: hmmm
Wasuji [5k\]: okay
Wasuji [5k\]: I like white a bit better
Kheldragar [7k\]: How should I have played in the lower left
])
(;B[cn]C[Wasuji [5k\]: this is fine
Kheldragar [7k\]: Oh I just noticed it's kobayashi
Kheldragar [7k\]: It's weird
Kheldragar [7k\]: Like it doesn't kok kobayashi
Kheldragar [7k\]: Because it's mirrored
Wasuji [5k\]: yeah
])))