(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[2400]OT[5/600 Canadian]
PW[schultz]PB[Phelan]BR[6k]DT[2010-06-10]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[Phelan [6k\]: have a good game!
]RE[B+Resign]
(;B[pd]BL[2390.941]C[schultz [?\]: You too!
]
;W[dp]WL[2385.878]
;B[pp]BL[2379.56]
;W[dd]WL[2374.718]
;B[fd]BL[2360.395]C[a1h1 [1d\]: this move is questionable to start with
a1h1 [1d\]: its not bad per se
schultz [?\]: Ahh, Q9. Yeah, I realized that pretty much right after I played it. :(
a1h1 [1d\]: but more of a special strategy
a1h1 [1d\]: in 98% of the cases its better to just go with f17
]
(;W[df]WL[2341.539]C[oren [6k?\]: unusual start
dfan [3k\]: I guess I should pay attention since I might be playing the winner in round 3
a1h1 [1d\]: well this is good
schultz [?\]: Ok. good.
]
(;B[id]BL[2291.47]C[oren [6k?\]: both like 4th line :)
Shadonra [2d\]: f16 = wtf
a1h1 [1d\]: well this is quite unusal
]
(;W[nq]WL[2306.599]
;B[kq]BL[2210.696]LB[pn:A][qn:C][qq:B]C[dfan [3k\]: Fight!
Shadonra [2d\]: it's an odd pincer
a1h1 [1d\]: well
Phelan [6k\]: i didn't like the normal pincer here
Phelan [6k\]: sememed too tight
a1h1 [1d\]: two space low pincer is all the rage
Phelan [6k\]: *seemed
a1h1 [1d\]: in china atm
a1h1 [1d\]: i really dont think it matters to much
a1h1 [1d\]: wich pincer you choose
a1h1 [1d\]: as long as you have a plan
a1h1 [1d\]: depending on what to do and are comfortable with it
]
(;W[no]WL[2219.887]C[a1h1 [1d\]: but this is fine
schultz [?\]: That makes sense. I'm always very hesitant about the followups, though.
a1h1 [1d\]: but this is fine
a1h1 [1d\]: just makes a different kind of game
a1h1 [1d\]: but one thing to think about
a1h1 [1d\]: i only think this jump is good
a1h1 [1d\]: when your going to counter pincer l3
a1h1 [1d\]: wich works here
a1h1 [1d\]: but otherwise
]
;B[pn]BL[2187.474]
;W[hq]WL[2197.454]
;B[pq]BL[2085.503]C[dfan [3k\]: That I don't like
Shadonra [2d\]: it is situationally good
Shadonra [2d\]: i disagree with q3
dfan [3k\]: Yes, that's what I meant
oren [6k?\]: ok,, I was curious when you said that too :)
dfan [3k\]: giving up on L3
oren [6k?\]: I could see leaving l3 and getting more moyo but this is inconsistent
dfan [3k\]: Now I would just play L5
a1h1 [1d\]: in my opinion white got two options
a1h1 [1d\]: cant really say wich one is the best
a1h1 [1d\]: either white can start by making this exchange
]
(;W[pk]WL[2006.572]C[dfan [3k\]: Gosh
schultz [?\]: yeah
schultz [?\]: ...
a1h1 [1d\]: playing here is very inconsistent
a1h1 [1d\]: when you play o5 and h3 you value what you can get out of attacking l3
a1h1 [1d\]: more than the right side
schultz [?\]: I guess I get too worked up over my opponents building large moyos. something I need to work on.
a1h1 [1d\]: so  your content with giving black some points there
schultz [?\]: Okay
schultz [?\]: And that's usually what I miss thinking about.
a1h1 [1d\]: if you were afraid of blacks side growing to big
a1h1 [1d\]: the o5 for q6 exchange was really bad
a1h1 [1d\]: then you should just have played q6 directly yourself
a1h1 [1d\]: this might work if your go seigen
a1h1 [1d\]: otherwise i wouldnt recommend it :)
schultz [?\]: hehe
schultz [?\]: I debated the cap for a long time
a1h1 [1d\]: firstly this move
a1h1 [1d\]: it was the origin of the weak group
]
(;B[nm]BL[2069.136]C[oren [6k?\]: interesting...
a1h1 [1d\]: good direction
a1h1 [1d\]: if your afraid of the cut
]
(;W[lo]WL[1969.908]
;B[jo]BL[2034.178]C[dfan [3k\]: W made things hard on himself
]
;W[kn]WL[1883.886]C[dfan [3k\]: He could have swallowed up L3, now both O5 group and Q9 can be attacked
]
;B[qh]BL[1997.201]C[dfan [3k\]: I don't think B can tenuki there
dfan [3k\]: Urgent before big
dfan [3k\]: Especially when both L3 group and O5 group are weak
]
;W[nk]WL[1804.22]C[Phelan [6k\]: i wasn't sure there
schultz [?\]: I was a little surprised by that. Gave me some breathing room, felt like.
]
(;B[mm]BL[1945.084]C[oren [6k?\]: Phelan likes solid
Shadonra [2d\]: slow as molasses
a1h1 [1d\]: to slow
]
;W[ll]WL[1739.453]
;B[lm]BL[1941.266]
;W[km]WL[1737.404]
(;B[kl]BL[1939.434]C[dfan [3k\]: M9 looks fine
Shadonra [2d\]: that move should have been n9
]
;W[lk]WL[1661.41]
;B[jl]BL[1923.018]C[dfan [3k\]: J7 looks like it works
a1h1 [1d\]: white is trying to hard
a1h1 [1d\]: and q9 was bad
dfan [3k\]: J7 K7 K6 J6 J5 H6 K4
]
(;W[om]WL[1553.287]C[Shadonra [2d\]: there's no weakness, b can capture the cutting stone
]
;B[on]BL[1916.768]C[dfan [3k\]: Why think now?
schultz [?\]: l5
]
;W[nn]WL[1523.045]
;B[ol]BL[1914.092]
;W[pm]WL[1518.581]
;B[pl]BL[1912.274]
;W[qm]WL[1517.202]C[oren [6k?\]: sometimes worth checking :)
dfan [3k\]: You can't play P7 unless you're going to follow up with O6
]
;B[ql]BL[1909.443]C[Shadonra [2d\]: well, not weak yet
]
;W[qn]WL[1510.472]C[Shadonra [2d\]: that can r5
Phelan [6k\]: i think i missed there
]
(;B[nl]BL[1906.004]
;W[po]WL[1503.196]
;B[mp]BL[1894.061]
;W[lp]WL[1455.715]
;B[np]BL[1856.47]C[dfan [3k\]: This doesn't work does it?
dfan [3k\]: Just P4
dfan [3k\]: and then if P3 N3
dfan [3k\]: P4 here
]
(;W[lq]WL[1362.063]
;B[op]BL[1825.051]
;W[oo]WL[1329.079]
;B[mo]BL[1822.483]C[dfan [3k\]: to my suggestion :)
]
;W[mn]WL[1271.666]
;B[ln]BL[1820.182]
(;W[qp]WL[1210.1]C[a1h1 [1d\]: yes
a1h1 [1d\]: and secondly that
a1h1 [1d\]: :)
]
;B[qq]BL[1816.395]
;W[rp]WL[1206.882]
;B[qk]BL[1814.482]C[Shadonra [2d\]: why not l5?
dfan [3k\]: Indeed
oren [6k?\]: too easy
dfan [3k\]: He thinks this group is in danger but L5 would just connect it with everything else
]
(;W[li]WL[1082.568]
;B[ko]BL[1781.009]C[dfan [3k\]: There we go
oren [6k?\]: now b is good
Shadonra [2d\]: attack m9!
dfan [3k\]: Yeah, I can't read out the capturing race at the bottom but W looks in trouble
Shadonra [2d\]: l2 escapes
oren [6k?\]: but does damage h3 a lot in the process
dfan [3k\]: Ah
dfan [3k\]: Well, if W escapes with the M3 group, B's going to have trouble in the corner
Shadonra [2d\]: if w gets n3 sente, b dies
oren [6k?\]: s3 sente?
a1h1 [1d\]: this is incredibly hurtful
]
;W[kr]WL[916.1]C[dfan [3k\]: For who, oren?
]
;B[mq]BL[1743.728]C[oren [6k?\]: b
Shadonra [2d\]: no
dfan [3k\]: I don't think so
oren [6k?\]: ok, trying to read it but watching at hockey at same time
]
;W[jq]WL[879.161]C[dfan [3k\]: Now B can get eyes
]
;B[lr]BL[1716.418]
;W[kp]WL[846.116]
;B[jp]BL[1713.639]
;W[kq]WL[842.819]C[schultz [?\]: I thought so too.
]
(;B[ni]BL[1687.641]C[a1h1 [1d\]: we discussed this alittle
a1h1 [1d\]: but black might no be able to play here
]
(;W[lg]WL[767.699]
;B[mj]BL[1683.751]C[Phelan [6k\]: n10?
Phelan [6k\]: i left it there later
Shadonra [2d\]: aji keshi imo
a1h1 [1d\]: borderline probably
Phelan [6k\]: ok
a1h1 [1d\]: i dont like it
a1h1 [1d\]: doesnt really destroy that much eyeshape
a1h1 [1d\]: you cant peep from the left
a1h1 [1d\]: etc
]
;W[lj]WL[757.556]C[Phelan [6k\]: this was a mistake, right?
]
;B[le]BL[1653.759]
(;W[mf]WL[675.679]C[dfan [3k\]: Wrong direction
dfan [3k\]: "Wrong direction" is just a good all-purpose comment :)
dfan [3k\]: but it looks like this is just letting B reinforce his territory
schultz [?\]: Yeah, that's why I stopped. Because kept looking at r17
schultz [?\]: No consistency.
a1h1 [1d\]: this doesnt feel right
a1h1 [1d\]: its not doing anything for white
a1h1 [1d\]: your solidfying his moyo
a1h1 [1d\]: whilte building pretty much no eyeshape
Phelan [6k\]: i thought this would jus make white stronger, but yeah
]
(;B[jf]BL[1595.463]C[oren [6k?\]: I should collect Kajiwara quotes to use
Shadonra [2d\]: "if you do not think this is good for b, put it on the board every morning and chant it to yourself "this is good for b"
]
;W[jh]WL[609.408]
(;B[fg]BL[1567.17]C[a1h1 [1d\]: weird shapes
Phelan [6k\]: heh
Phelan [6k\]: true
a1h1 [1d\]: the idea behind this move is good
schultz [?\]: I couldn't decide here.
schultz [?\]: Felt my group needed help, but wanted to play d12.
schultz [?\]: Or in that area.
a1h1 [1d\]: yea
a1h1 [1d\]: help the group
a1h1 [1d\]: i would play
]
(;W[hh]WL[568.719]C[Shadonra [2d\]: it's a nice move
]
;B[dh]BL[1563.124]C[Shadonra [2d\]: maybe a little thin
a1h1 [1d\]: its a good multi purpose move
]
(;W[cg]WL[536.339]C[a1h1 [1d\]: i would probably just cap at h12 directly thou
a1h1 [1d\]: hmm
a1h1 [1d\]: cant white play o2?
a1h1 [1d\]: so
a1h1 [1d\]: i dont like this move
]
(;B[fq]BL[1537.592]C[Shadonra [2d\]: now j11, connect, g11
oren [6k?\]: "if you live like this, it's better you just die"
Shadonra [2d\]: think b can live if o2
Shadonra [2d\]: not sure
dfan [3k\]: I just play C3 instead oF3
a1h1 [1d\]: o2 n2 s2 
a1h1 [1d\]: then p2 and r2 is miai for black
a1h1 [1d\]: perhaps
dfan [3k\]: W's wall wouldn't face anything useful
a1h1 [1d\]: hmm
a1h1 [1d\]: i was unsure about this
a1h1 [1d\]: felt alittle bit overplayish
a1h1 [1d\]: and also
Phelan [6k\]: i thought it was strong enought to live
a1h1 [1d\]: more tsumego for both of you :)
]
(;W[fp]WL[487.375]C[Phelan [6k\]: and started trying to get strength elsewehre
schultz [?\]: Yeah
a1h1 [1d\]: i think theres a joseki
a1h1 [1d\]: thats
]
(;B[cn]BL[1499.394]C[Phelan [6k\]: oh, question
a1h1 [1d\]: go ahead
Phelan [6k\]: is c12 sente against the corner?
Phelan [6k\]: i thought it wasn't
a1h1 [1d\]: hmm
a1h1 [1d\]: i was thinking about it
a1h1 [1d\]: but i dont think it is
Shadonra [2d\]: if you had f18, yesw
Phelan [6k\]: hmm, ok
Shadonra [2d\]: well.. it's not sente, but there's a large endgame
Phelan [6k\]: thanks
Shadonra [2d\]: like really big
a1h1 [1d\]: but
a1h1 [1d\]: well
a1h1 [1d\]: i think this is good
Phelan [6k\]: pincer, maybe?
]
(;W[cp]WL[468.675]C[schultz [?\]: I couldn't decide what to do here.
a1h1 [1d\]: i dont like this by white
a1h1 [1d\]: its just that
schultz [?\]: completely missed it.
a1h1 [1d\]: this leaves some nasty aji
schultz [?\]: As Phelan proceeded to show me.
a1h1 [1d\]: :)
]
;B[en]BL[1493.105]C[Shadonra [2d\]: hmm, nice!
a1h1 [1d\]: if your going to defend
schultz [?\]: yeah. I tried to "go big" I think.
schultz [?\]: Ok. that was the black move I couldn't see.
a1h1 [1d\]: :)
a1h1 [1d\]: better to try and find a way to exploit that thiness
]
(;W[ho]WL[417.722]C[dfan [3k\]: H5 does nothing
oren [6k?\]: was wondering...
Phelan [6k\]: heh, i like that one: "curse the gods"
a1h1 [1d\]: this feels slow
a1h1 [1d\]: especially since i think white is behind
]
(;B[ch]BL[1470.871]C[schultz [?\]: h14 any good? I was looking at that.
a1h1 [1d\]: now black is clearly ahead
]
(;W[bh]WL[398.81]C[a1h1 [1d\]: i dont like h6 for the reason
a1h1 [1d\]: that it gives the impetus for white to try and settle his group
a1h1 [1d\]: with h9 or something
a1h1 [1d\]: better to attack white then come back for h6
a1h1 [1d\]: e6
]
;B[bi]BL[1407.063]
;W[bg]WL[397.239]C[Phelan [6k\]: probably other side was better
schultz [?\]: Yeah, I didn't feel good about how I handled that there.
]
;B[gp]BL[1385.744]C[Shadonra [2d\]: ah, wrong side!
Shadonra [2d\]: wedge the 1-space jump first
]
(;W[go]WL[325.055]C[Phelan [6k\]: e4 first i mean
]
;B[ep]BL[1377.293]
;W[fo]WL[310.455]
;B[eo]BL[1375.053]C[dfan [3k\]: E3 looks OK
]
;W[ci]WL[277.954]C[dfan [3k\]: Whoa
]
;B[bj]BL[1360.425]C[Shadonra [2d\]: or you could let the corner die
Shadonra [2d\]: that's cool too
]
(;W[di]WL[267.38]C[a1h1 [1d\]: this feels alittle bit heavo of white
]
;B[eh]BL[1350.472]C[dfan [3k\]: Everybody should be playing E3 every move
]
;W[ej]WL[230.506]C[a1h1 [1d\]: e3 for white?
Shadonra [2d\]: e3 for w, corner dies anyway
dfan [3k\]: It doesn't work?
dfan [3k\]: Huh
Shadonra [2d\]: e3, cut, then d2
dfan [3k\]: Ah, OK
dfan [3k\]: I was looking at C3 instead of D2
Shadonra [2d\]: f2, b3
a1h1 [1d\]: doesnt work
Shadonra [2d\]: lemme see
a1h1 [1d\]: tombstone squeeze
]
;B[gj]BL[1288.794]C[Shadonra [2d\]: really? damn
Shadonra [2d\]: oh yeah
a1h1 [1d\]: e3 d3 e2 d2 f2 b3 c3 c2 b2 b1 a2 a2  etc
Shadonra [2d\]: but an 8k won't see that
Shadonra [2d\]: ... probably
a1h1 [1d\]: thats true :)
dfan [3k\]: Nice
]
;W[fk]WL[162.142]
;B[gm]BL[1269.498]
;W[fm]WL[142.662]C[dfan [3k\]: Meanwhile W's group in the center is still pretty sickly
Shadonra [2d\]: something is going to die
a1h1 [1d\]: weird noones doing something with it yet
]
;B[fn]BL[1246.978]C[a1h1 [1d\]: but maybe white can play d2
a1h1 [1d\]: and live
a1h1 [1d\]: or simply d3
a1h1 [1d\]: need to settle outside first thou
Shadonra [2d\]: b should d3 the corner
Shadonra [2d\]: w c3, d2, c2, b5
]
(;W[gn]WL[58.226]C[a1h1 [1d\]: and as a farewell present
a1h1 [1d\]: read out why
]
;B[hm]BL[1231.906]C[schultz [?\]: Thanks for the game.
Phelan [6k\]: what?
Phelan [6k\]: thanks
Phelan [6k\]: but...
schultz [?\]: I just don't feel confident where I'm going.
schultz [?\]: yeah...
Phelan [6k\]: ok, ok
schultz [?\]: bah
Phelan [6k\]: thanks for the game
schultz [?\]: I know I should have kept going.
schultz [?\]: Feel I had some decent options.
schultz [?\]: Got into my own head.
Phelan [6k\]: never give up until you're sure, at least in a tournament
Phelan [6k\]: i usually am pessimistic as well
schultz [?\]: Some sound advice I should remember for my second tournament. :)
Phelan [6k\]: so i have to take that mantra
dfan [3k\]: It's definitely an uphill battle for W
oren [6k?\]: don't think there's anythign really wrong with resigning here
dfan [3k\]: Well, it's a double-elimination tournament :)
Phelan [6k\]: hmm, ok
Phelan [6k\]: anyone want to take control?
dfan [3k\]: We made some comments along the way
a1h1 [1d\]: err im going to smoke
Phelan [6k\]: ok, nice :)
a1h1 [1d\]: i can look at it when i get back
schultz [?\]: Thanks guys.
Phelan [6k\]: thanks
schultz [?\]: I'll need to look through them.
dfan [3k\]: Thanks for the entertaining game!
schultz [?\]: Glad we could oblige.
Phelan [6k\]: thank you again for the game, schultz
schultz [?\]: Thanks Phelan.
Phelan [6k\]: I'll be right back
Phelan [6k\]: have to freshen up
Phelan [6k\]: back
a1h1 [1d\]: so
a1h1 [1d\]: :)
dfan [3k\]: First real mistake I think was Q9
a1h1 [1d\]: well
a1h1 [1d\]: pretty interesting
Phelan [6k\]: thanks for the review! 
schultz [?\]: Thanks for going over it!
a1h1 [1d\]: white got himeself into a really complicated position
a1h1 [1d\]: and when we look at the board
schultz [?\]: yeah
a1h1 [1d\]: it pretty much comes from two things
])
(;W[eq]
;B[dq]
;W[er]
;B[dr]
;W[fr]
;B[bq]C[a1h1 [1d\]: this doesnt work for black
a1h1 [1d\]: :<
a1h1 [1d\]: :)
a1h1 [1d\]: now im going to sleep guys
schultz [?\]: I was already starting to do that, seeing all the comments on e3 for w.
schultz [?\]: :)
schultz [?\]: Thanks again!
Phelan [6k\]: thanks!
a1h1 [1d\]: see you on the forum
a1h1 [1d\]: gnight
Phelan [6k\]: I need to sleep too
schultz [?\]: :)
schultz [?\]: Thanks again Phelan
Phelan [6k\]: thank you too 
schultz [?\]: See you on the forums.
Phelan [6k\]: yep, see you
schultz [?\]: oh, and who is a1h1?
Phelan [6k\]: I'll post the record there and go sleep
schultz [?\]: Okay, thanks.
Phelan [6k\]: not sure :/
schultz [?\]: Guess we'll find out eventually.
schultz [?\]: hehe
Phelan [6k\]: heh
Phelan [6k\]: true
]))
(;W[ei]C[a1h1 [1d\]: does this work
a1h1 [1d\]: hmm
a1h1 [1d\]: nah
]))
(;W[as]
;B[dc]C[a1h1 [1d\]: because now black goes this
a1h1 [1d\]: quite big
a1h1 [1d\]: goes=got
])
(;W[gq]C[a1h1 [1d\]: intuitively this feels right
]
;B[ep]
;W[fo]
;B[eo]
;W[eq]C[Phelan [6k\]: yeah,my move felt wrong
]))
(;W[fc]C[a1h1 [1d\]: still prefer this
]))
(;B[ii]
;W[ih]
;B[gj]C[a1h1 [1d\]: white is in serious trouble here
]))
(;W[eq]C[a1h1 [1d\]: probably still the best
a1h1 [1d\]: but
])
(;W[ij]C[a1h1 [1d\]: i think you just need to curse the gods
a1h1 [1d\]: and defend here
schultz [?\]: hehe, okay
])
(;W[hf]C[a1h1 [1d\]: here?
schultz [?\]: yeah.
a1h1 [1d\]: well
a1h1 [1d\]: not really since it forces white to defend his thiness
]
;B[ge])
(;W[hk]LB[eh:A][dm:B][gn:C]C[a1h1 [1d\]: i still like the idea of playing something here
a1h1 [1d\]: aiming for
a1h1 [1d\]: alot of different moves
a1h1 [1d\]: while loosely reinforcing your mid group
])
(;W[dj]C[a1h1 [1d\]: how about this
]
;B[ch]
;W[fj]C[schultz [?\]: oh
a1h1 [1d\]: do or die
schultz [?\]: That better than I thought
schultz [?\]: Yeah
]))
(;W[eq]C[schultz [?\]: Okay
a1h1 [1d\]: personally i would play here
schultz [?\]: I thought about that one.
a1h1 [1d\]: and just remove all the aji
schultz [?\]: I got really worried about black b4, then solidifying left side.
]
;B[bp]C[Phelan [6k\]: you can pincer here
a1h1 [1d\]: yea
a1h1 [1d\]: this seems sligthly worse for black
a1h1 [1d\]: that if he had played c3 directly
a1h1 [1d\]: instead of c6
a1h1 [1d\]: so i think this is okay for white
schultz [?\]: ok
]
;W[dj]C[a1h1 [1d\]: white can always pincer
a1h1 [1d\]: black is quite thin
a1h1 [1d\]: on the top
]))
(;B[ep]C[a1h1 [1d\]: this is the common shape move here
a1h1 [1d\]: now black can either live in the corner
a1h1 [1d\]: or cut white
a1h1 [1d\]: this is actually good to remember since it occurs in alot of games when
])
(;B[ch]
(;W[cq]
;B[cc]C[Shadonra [2d\]: then c17, d17, c18
Shadonra [2d\]: d18
a1h1 [1d\]: yea
Shadonra [2d\]: b14
a1h1 [1d\]: so its sente
a1h1 [1d\]: but
]
;W[dc]C[schultz [?\]: ouch
Shadonra [2d\]: i was thinking c15 first
]
;B[db]
;W[eb]C[schultz [?\]: yeah
]
;B[cb]
;W[ec]
;B[be]C[Shadonra [2d\]: oh
Shadonra [2d\]: right
a1h1 [1d\]: perhaps?
Shadonra [2d\]: so it is
])
(;W[fc]C[a1h1 [1d\]: you force white to play here perhaps
Phelan [6k\]: ah, yeah
a1h1 [1d\]: so its a tradeoff
]))
(;B[ec]C[a1h1 [1d\]: maybe you can start here instead then?
a1h1 [1d\]: but then c12 probably isnt sente anymore
]))
(;W[rc]
;B[dn]
;W[fp]
;B[cq]
;W[eq]
;B[cp]C[a1h1 [1d\]: goes like this
a1h1 [1d\]: considering that
]))
(;B[ii]
;W[ih]
;B[gj]C[a1h1 [1d\]: why not keep attacking
Phelan [6k\]: hmm
a1h1 [1d\]: then you atleast build some strength
a1h1 [1d\]: and the f3 invasion would be more severe
Phelan [6k\]: good point
a1h1 [1d\]: for some reason both of you forgot whites weak group in the middle
a1h1 [1d\]: and started playing elsewhere
]))
(;W[ch]C[a1h1 [1d\]: maybe you can play here
a1h1 [1d\]: but if i were white
])
(;W[hj]C[a1h1 [1d\]: i probably would have defended once more
a1h1 [1d\]: this move also
a1h1 [1d\]: aims for the
]
;B[sa]
;W[eh])
(;W[fc]C[a1h1 [1d\]: try to find a move
Phelan [6k\]: that looks better
a1h1 [1d\]: thats not only defending
a1h1 [1d\]: but serving a secondary purpose also
a1h1 [1d\]: this defend your corner
a1h1 [1d\]: but it also reduces blacks top
]))
(;W[me]C[schultz [?\]: Okay. I was wondering.
schultz [?\]: should have just played it
schultz [?\]: Stared at it for so long.
])
(;W[dh]C[a1h1 [1d\]: this is indeed big
a1h1 [1d\]: but urgent before big
a1h1 [1d\]: no matter how much you get to the left
Phelan [6k\]: i still think the group can make it
a1h1 [1d\]: if your center dies
a1h1 [1d\]: its over
Phelan [6k\]: althought it's usually best to play safe
])
(;W[hj]C[a1h1 [1d\]: maybe you can try and play something like this
a1h1 [1d\]: and run out a little faster
a1h1 [1d\]: looser but faster
schultz [?\]: yeah
]
(;B[ii]C[a1h1 [1d\]: white cant cut directlyt
]
;W[ij]
;B[jj]
;W[ji])
(;B[ij]
(;W[ii])
(;W[hh]))))
(;B[hh]C[a1h1 [1d\]: personally i would prefer to cap a little tighter
Phelan [6k\]: hmm, looks good too
]
;W[ii]C[a1h1 [1d\]: then aim for c12
a1h1 [1d\]: but i think both are good
a1h1 [1d\]: probably mostly a matter of style
]))
(;B[me]C[a1h1 [1d\]: i would just defend here
a1h1 [1d\]: 5th line territory is good
a1h1 [1d\]: or i would be in the mood to
])
(;B[kh]
;W[lh]
;B[ih]C[Phelan [6k\]: hmm
a1h1 [1d\]: this is quite a gamble thou
a1h1 [1d\]: because if whites lives
a1h1 [1d\]: he destroys a lot of your territory
]))
(;W[ih]C[a1h1 [1d\]: i would just play here 
a1h1 [1d\]: white can still worm his way in
a1h1 [1d\]: or play r17 or something
schultz [?\]: okay
]))
(;W[nr]C[Phelan [6k\]: hmm
a1h1 [1d\]: black needs to be aware of this move
a1h1 [1d\]: if he's going to tenuki
Phelan [6k\]: i wasn't :S
a1h1 [1d\]: :)
Phelan [6k\]: thought i was safe
]
(;B[mr]
;W[rr]LB[or:B][qr:A]C[Phelan [6k\]: s3
]
;B[rq]
;W[sq]C[Phelan [6k\]: now p2?
]
;B[or]
;W[qr]C[Phelan [6k\]: ah
])
(;B[rq]
;W[mr]
;B[or]
(;W[rr]
;B[sr]C[a1h1 [1d\]: seems like black lives here
]
(;W[rs]
;B[qr]
;W[ps]
;B[os])
(;W[qs]C[Phelan [6k\]: s1 instead of s2? it looks almost like the l group
]))
(;W[rs]C[a1h1 [1d\]: ah 
a1h1 [1d\]: perhaps
a1h1 [1d\]: well
]))))
(;B[ji]C[a1h1 [1d\]: personally i would prefer to push from this side
a1h1 [1d\]: cant really say why
Shadonra [2d\]: i disagree
Shadonra [2d\]: don't push w into your moyo
a1h1 [1d\]: sure but the moyo is still so loose
a1h1 [1d\]: i want strength to play c12 or something
a1h1 [1d\]: but im probably wrong here
Shadonra [2d\]: ehhh
Shadonra [2d\]: both moves are ok
Shadonra [2d\]: i'd play o11, but k11 is as good
]))
(;W[ko]SQ[mo][mp][np][op][pp][pq][qq]C[a1h1 [1d\]: i sthill think its best to just connect
schultz [?\]: Ok
a1h1 [1d\]: this is really big
a1h1 [1d\]: since it saves your stones
Phelan [6k\]: l5 was good for both, yes
a1h1 [1d\]: and keep black stones weak
Phelan [6k\]: *L5
a1h1 [1d\]: you can still threat your other stones lightly
schultz [?\]: I wanted it but reading failed.
a1h1 [1d\]: especially since this probably is sente
a1h1 [1d\]: against thoose stones
Phelan [6k\]: yeah, i think i have to defend
]))
(;W[ko]C[dfan [3k\]: Go back
Phelan [6k\]: hmm
dfan [3k\]: I missed that there was a recapture after the snapback
a1h1 [1d\]: :)
a1h1 [1d\]: i think white should just connect hire
Phelan [6k\]: isnt there trouble?
Phelan [6k\]: s4?
]
;B[rp]
;W[rl]C[Phelan [6k\]: ah
]))
(;W[op]C[schultz [?\]: I couldn't read that for sure, so I didn't do it.
Phelan [6k\]: p3 connects
]
;B[oq]
;W[mq]C[Phelan [6k\]: or so i thought
]
;B[oo]
;W[op]
;B[oo]C[schultz [?\]: I wanted to.
schultz [?\]: wow
Phelan [6k\]: hmm, but bad shape :S
schultz [?\]: missed that
Shadonra [2d\]: this no good
]
;W[on]
;B[op]C[Shadonra [2d\]: now p6
]
;W[mo]
;B[lq]C[Shadonra [2d\]: yeah
schultz [?\]: hmmm...I see.
a1h1 [1d\]: still not to good shape for white
]))
(;B[qo]C[Phelan [6k\]: yeah
]
;W[rl]
;B[rk]
;W[rm]C[Phelan [6k\]: o8 now?
Shadonra [2d\]: r9
a1h1 [1d\]: seems like it
a1h1 [1d\]: 3 vs 4
]))
(;W[im]C[a1h1 [1d\]: so maybe white should just jump out?
schultz [?\]: I was wondering if it was a good time for that or not. Left it for way too long and never did it.
a1h1 [1d\]: well getting shut in sucks
dfan [3k\]: I think I wanted to play this here
Phelan [6k\]: also it threatens to capture
a1h1 [1d\]: i just read quickly
Phelan [6k\]: i didn't see it
a1h1 [1d\]: but might be some problem
a1h1 [1d\]: if black resists
a1h1 [1d\]: so i think this is good
a1h1 [1d\]: and puts alot of pressure on blacks stones on the bottom
]
;B[ko]
;W[ln]
;B[jm]
;W[jn]
;B[in]
;W[io]
;B[hn]
;W[lp]
;B[iq]C[a1h1 [1d\]: but looks like white will win
]))
(;B[ol]C[a1h1 [1d\]: i dont like it
a1h1 [1d\]: but black might have to peep here
a1h1 [1d\]: to fix his shape
Shadonra [2d\]: no
Shadonra [2d\]: just n9
])
(;B[mk]C[Phelan [6k\]: heh
schultz [?\]: hehe
a1h1 [1d\]: well this is probably a good move
a1h1 [1d\]: but complicated
a1h1 [1d\]: a more pro active way
a1h1 [1d\]: of doing p8
a1h1 [1d\]: the most important thing i think is realizing that black got a weakness in his shape here
a1h1 [1d\]: and try and fix it
Phelan [6k\]: ok
]
;W[ml]
;B[nl]C[Phelan [6k\]: hmm
]
;W[nj]C[Phelan [6k\]: looks nice to me
Shadonra [2d\]: n 11
]
;B[mi]
;W[pm]C[a1h1 [1d\]: err complicated
Shadonra [2d\]: kill it with fire!
a1h1 [1d\]: :)
Shadonra [2d\]: that's my motto
]))
(;B[lm]C[a1h1 [1d\]: perhaps
])
(;B[in]C[Phelan [6k\]: i thought about a one space jump and a keima, but didn't like either
Phelan [6k\]: j6 looks good
a1h1 [1d\]: j6 takes care of your bottom
a1h1 [1d\]: the question is
a1h1 [1d\]: can white connect his groups
a1h1 [1d\]: if not i think this is a good move
a1h1 [1d\]: if he can
a1h1 [1d\]: its better to keep him split
]
;W[ll]
;B[ml]
;W[mk]
;B[lm]
;W[km]C[dfan [3k\]: of J6
]
;B[kl]
;W[lk]
;B[jl]C[a1h1 [1d\]: perhaps
dfan [3k\]: How about K6 instead
])
(;B[jn]C[a1h1 [1d\]: yea
a1h1 [1d\]: but it feels like your pushing white
a1h1 [1d\]: to connect his group
a1h1 [1d\]: doesnt feel right
dfan [3k\]: I dunno, if he plays L7 you just get a better split
dfan [3k\]: if it works :)
Phelan [6k\]: heh
a1h1 [1d\]: y
Phelan [6k\]: looks wrong to me too, but i'm not sure
a1h1 [1d\]: its alittle complicated and to much reading for a drunk guy like me
Shadonra [2d\]: i dislike this, rather must m7
a1h1 [1d\]: but it feels alittle bit like a thank you move
Shadonra [2d\]: *just
]))
(;W[om]C[Phelan [6k\]: yep
schultz [?\]: ;)
a1h1 [1d\]: well this is quite horrid 
a1h1 [1d\]: i think the kosumi is better
a1h1 [1d\]: leaves no aji
a1h1 [1d\]: and still splits white
Phelan [6k\]: ok
]))
(;B[om]C[a1h1 [1d\]: alittle softer on whiter
Phelan [6k\]: hmm
a1h1 [1d\]: but leaves less aji
Shadonra [2d\]: it must be this, that cut is too worrisome
Phelan [6k\]: didn't consider that
a1h1 [1d\]: yea
Phelan [6k\]: but i wasn't worried about the cut
Phelan [6k\]: maybe i should have been :/
a1h1 [1d\]: well im alittle unsure
a1h1 [1d\]: but white got something out of it right?
]))
(;W[nm]
;B[pl]
;W[ko]C[a1h1 [1d\]: then attack
a1h1 [1d\]: wich i think is most sensible
])
(;W[ko]C[a1h1 [1d\]: or just attack directly
a1h1 [1d\]: but whites position is rather thin
schultz [?\]: ok
a1h1 [1d\]: probably better to just make it simple
Phelan [6k\]: i was expecting the cap
a1h1 [1d\]: you can return and play on the right side after this
])
(;W[ql]C[a1h1 [1d\]: and if you want to counter pincer
a1h1 [1d\]: this is probably better than q9
a1h1 [1d\]: threatening blacks weakness
a1h1 [1d\]: that is the open skirt in his position
]))
(;W[pn]C[a1h1 [1d\]: if it was me
a1h1 [1d\]: i would change the direction here
a1h1 [1d\]: to try and prevent black from building a large moyo
]
;B[np]LB[mp:A][qq:B]
;W[qq]C[a1h1 [1d\]: then black can either block r4 or p3
a1h1 [1d\]: and so on
]))
(;W[rp]C[Phelan [6k\]: ok
schultz [?\]: How best to respond to this? I wasn't quite sure.
]))
(;B[dc]
;W[cc]
;B[ec]
;W[cb]C[a1h1 [1d\]: doing this exchange first
a1h1 [1d\]: then extending
a1h1 [1d\]: is joseki
Phelan [6k\]: hmm
]
(;B[jc])
(;B[id]C[Shadonra [2d\]: it's joseki only if the top side is huge
a1h1 [1d\]: yes
a1h1 [1d\]: this is probably the most common joseki
a1h1 [1d\]: but whites gets alot of points
a1h1 [1d\]: and blacks position is not that good
a1h1 [1d\]: so its usually only played when the potential on the top is huge
])))
(;W[fc]
;B[gc]
;W[ec]
;B[gd]LB[ce:C][cf:B][df:A]C[a1h1 [1d\]: this can be played also
a1h1 [1d\]: then white can play a b or c
a1h1 [1d\]: then black extends
]))
(;B[dp]
(;W[fq]
;B[hq]
;W[dd]C[a1h1 [1d\]: white plays an approach
a1h1 [1d\]: then tenukies
a1h1 [1d\]: and blacks 
]
;B[fp]C[a1h1 [1d\]: when white later in the game wants to revive that stone
]
;W[ep]C[a1h1 [1d\]: the wedge is the shapemove
a1h1 [1d\]: same goes with
schultz [?\]: For the wedge.
schultz [?\]: Ahh
]
(;B[eo]
;W[eq]
;B[gp]
;W[dq]C[a1h1 [1d\]: now white will live
a1h1 [1d\]: if black simply plays e5
])
(;B[eq]C[Shadonra [2d\]: er, d3
a1h1 [1d\]: if white doesnt have the ladder
]
(;W[eo]C[a1h1 [1d\]: heres a ladder
]
(;B[gq]
;W[dq]
;B[fr]C[Shadonra [2d\]: should c3
]
;W[cp]C[schultz [?\]: Yeah, I see it now.
Phelan [6k\]: i remember this a bit
])
(;B[dq]
;W[gp]C[Phelan [6k\]: probably from one of my books
]))
(;W[gp]
;B[eo]
;W[gq]C[a1h1 [1d\]: white can still cut black
schultz [?\]: thanks
a1h1 [1d\]: np
])))
(;W[pp]
;B[nq]
;W[qn]
;B[jp]
;W[lq]
;B[lp]LB[kp:B][kq:A]C[a1h1 [1d\]: this position is rather common
a1h1 [1d\]: depending on some circumstances
a1h1 [1d\]: eiter a or b
a1h1 [1d\]: is the shape moves
schultz [?\]: Could you show some continuation?
])))