(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[13]HA[5]KM[0.50]TM[1500]OT[4x30 byo-yomi]
PW[rabitz]PB[Lanrose]WR[3k]BR[17k]DT[2015-08-08]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]AB[dd][jd][gg][dj][jj]
;W[kf]WL[1497.002]
;B[kh]BL[1485.733]
;W[kc]WL[1488.73]
;B[kd]BL[1464.225]
;W[jc]WL[1466.96]
(;B[ic]BL[1454.723]
;W[id]WL[1446.173]
;B[jf]BL[1442.891]
;W[ld]WL[1417.874]
;B[ie]BL[1434.394]
;W[hd]WL[1411.132]
(;B[gd]BL[1415.054]
;W[hc]WL[1403.228]
;B[fc]BL[1405.136]
;W[le]WL[1395.158]
(;B[je]BL[1399.459]
;W[he]WL[1363.44]
;B[ig]BL[1374.896]
;W[hf]WL[1351.109]
;B[hg]BL[1359.142]
;W[cg]WL[1346.537]
;B[be]BL[1345.321]
;W[bj]WL[1331.427]
(;B[dl]BL[1338.179]
;W[jk]WL[1322.597]
;B[ik]BL[1329.521]
;W[kj]WL[1315.819]
;B[kk]BL[1327.05]
;W[jl]WL[1313.461]
(;B[lj]BL[1318.265]
;W[ij]WL[1289.393]
(;B[ji]BL[1308.921]
;W[kl]WL[1285.769]
(;B[lk]BL[1303.252]
;W[hk]WL[1271.613]
;B[gj]BL[1292.77]
;W[gk]WL[1265.237]
;B[fk]BL[1288.464]
;W[fj]WL[1255.743]
;B[fi]BL[1286.253]
;W[ej]WL[1245.868]
;B[ei]BL[1281.371]
;W[ek]WL[1241.69]
;B[fl]BL[1273.175]
;W[gi]WL[1231.471]
;B[gh]BL[1263.309]
;W[hj]WL[1227.946]
;B[ci]BL[1250.971]
;W[dk]WL[1225.268]
;B[ck]BL[1246.987]
;W[cj]WL[1221.933]
;B[di]BL[1239.028]
;W[bi]WL[1202.253]
;B[bg]BL[1210.196]
;W[bh]WL[1198.324]
;B[ch]BL[1202.085]
;W[bf]WL[1183.131]
;B[dg]BL[1194.385]
;W[cf]WL[1172.992]
;B[df]BL[1190.746]
;W[ce]WL[1167.63]
;B[cd]BL[1189.211]
;W[bd]WL[1158.454]
;B[de]BL[1186.378]
;W[ae]WL[1153.946]
;B[bc]BL[1182.228]
;W[ag]WL[1133.436]
;B[ge]BL[1169.277]C[rabitz [3k\]: they go faster
]
;W[hb]WL[1125.89]
;B[gb]BL[1166.654]C[rabitz [3k\]: and the have more (proportionately) edges and corners
]
;W[ac]WL[1105.467]
;B[bb]BL[1153.702]C[rabitz [3k\]: and it's so important to read a little better there, because that's often where the games are determined
]
;W[ll]WL[1067.173]
;B[hi]BL[1143.576]
;W[gj]WL[1058.19]
;B[ii]BL[1131.82]C[rabitz [3k\]: look for players your strength or better
]
;W[lg]WL[1042.091]C[Lanrose [17k?\]: thats what ive done both fo the games ive played
rabitz [3k\]: good
Lanrose [17k?\]: I played two 19x19 one against an 18K i think and one was a 14K
]
;B[kg]BL[1097.765]C[rabitz [3k\]: it won't take many games to recognize some common hazards along the edges
rabitz [3k\]: but you'll see them faster if you play 13x13
]
;W[li]WL[998.121]
;B[lh]BL[1090.292]
;W[mk]WL[992.158]
;B[ki]BL[1080.927]
;W[ke]WL[977.679]
;B[mg]BL[1049.405]
;W[if]WL[967.711]
;B[jg]BL[1046.695]
;W[gf]WL[956.548]
;B[ff]BL[1044.348]
;W[ib]WL[955.22]
;B[ab]BL[1021.828]C[rabitz [3k\]: maybe play 13x13 until when you play someone my strength, it becomes easy to win given a 5-stone handi
]
;W[ad]WL[916.861]
;B[mj]BL[1016.613]
;W[ml]WL[911.761]
;B[lf]BL[1013.857]
;W[gc]WL[895.487]
;B[fb]BL[1000.762]
;W[ga]WL[875.635]
;B[fa]BL[997.061]
;W[ha]WL[873.994]
;B[me]BL[986.573]
;W[lc]WL[869.411]
;B[md]BL[982.713]
;W[mc]WL[866.42]
;B[mf]BL[980.938]
;W[el]WL[838.529]
;B[]BL[956.772]
;W[]WL[776.258]TW[ia][ja][ka][la][ma][jb][kb][lb][mb][ic][be][af][bg][ah][ai][aj][ak][bk][ck][fk][ik][al][bl][cl][dl][fl][gl][hl][il][am][bm][cm][dm][em][fm][gm][hm][im][jm][km][lm][mm]TB[aa][ba][ca][da][ea][cb][db][eb][cc][dc][ec][ed][fd][ee][fe][ef][eg][fg][lg][dh][eh][fh][hh][ih][jh][mh][li][mi][kj])
(;B[hk]C[rabitz [3k\]: could play like this, i suppose
]
;W[lk]
;B[li]C[Lanrose [17k?\]: that seems alot better than what I did
rabitz [3k\]: that's the reading i've been talking about
rabitz [3k\]: it's not deep reading
Lanrose [17k?\]: I can read a little bit but I think I focus too much on reading capturing
rabitz [3k\]: ah, and it's a big part of becomming stronger...
Lanrose [17k?\]: how do you get better at reading?
rabitz [3k\]: when can you sacrifice some of your stones in order to get something even larger
rabitz [3k\]: as for reading, you're on the right path
rabitz [3k\]: simply playing a bunch of games for now
rabitz [3k\]: and doing go problems
rabitz [3k\]: how old are you?
Lanrose [17k?\]: 22
rabitz [3k\]: you won't learn as quickly as a 10-year-old
rabitz [3k\]: but still fairly quickly
Lanrose [17k?\]: it just means ill have to try harder
rabitz [3k\]: i think we've covered enough
rabitz [3k\]: and i'll extend an invitation
Lanrose [17k?\]: Thanks for the game and the review
rabitz [3k\]: if you see me on kgs (maybe make me a friend), feel free
rabitz [3k\]: to ask for a game, 13x13
Lanrose [17k?\]: Ok thanks :)
rabitz [3k\]: and when you beat me with 5 stones, maybe 2 more games
rabitz [3k\]: then we'll play 4 stones
Lanrose [17k?\]: haha sounds like a deal
rabitz [3k\]: and when you get even there, it will be time to move to 19x19, i think
rabitz [3k\]: not necessarily against me but in general
rabitz [3k\]: are you in school?
Lanrose [17k?\]: nah just graduated
Lanrose [17k?\]: just started working in the real world
rabitz [3k\]: do live where there are go players, a city of some size?
rabitz [3k\]: do you*
Lanrose [17k?\]: So ive looked into it and the closest AGA go club is like 2 hours away
rabitz [3k\]: oops, too far
Lanrose [17k?\]: yeah there was a meeting on wednesday but I was too afriad to go
Lanrose [17k?\]: but im going to go next week
Lanrose [17k?\]: its far but i think worth it
rabitz [3k\]: no point driving that far yet, but depending how much time you invest (read waste), it might be worthwhile in a month or so
rabitz [3k\]: get a little better, spend the time on kgs for a bit
Lanrose [17k?\]: okay
Lanrose [17k?\]: ill do that
rabitz [3k\]: instead of wasting gas and time  :)
rabitz [3k\]: and then it will mean a little more when you go
Lanrose [17k?\]: Yeah that sounds like a better plan
Lanrose [17k?\]: and cheaper
rabitz [3k\]: and if you can contact them, you might find out the weakest players' rank
rabitz [3k\]: if they are all strongish, might not want to play much with you
rabitz [3k\]: some people are glad to teach, many are not
Lanrose [17k?\]: oh I didnt really think about that
rabitz [3k\]: so remove the question mark from your rank, so you can say what it is if someone asks
rabitz [3k\]: but first more 13x13
Lanrose [17k?\]: how do i remove the question mark
Lanrose [17k?\]: or is that just by playing
rabitz [3k\]: you have to play ranked 19x19 games and win a certain number
rabitz [3k\]: i don't know how many, but it's not many
Lanrose [17k?\]: ok... Im guessing that number is not two
Lanrose [17k?\]: cause ive won two
rabitz [3k\]: lol, more than 2
rabitz [3k\]: it sounds from talking to you that you'll improve quickly
Lanrose [17k?\]: I hope so
Lanrose [17k?\]: I want a rematch sometime and I want to beat you :)
Lanrose [17k?\]: but i have a long time before that happens
rabitz [3k\]: up to what level i don't know, but from your level now you will improve quickly
Lanrose [17k?\]: How long have you been playing?
rabitz [3k\]: and if the rematch is 13x13 with 5 stones, it will be a very short time, i suspect
rabitz [3k\]: i've been playing 40 yres ± with some lapses in between
rabitz [3k\]: years*
Lanrose [17k?\]: wow thats a long time
rabitz [3k\]: and getting better has proven to be difficult
rabitz [3k\]: in the last 20 years or so
rabitz [3k\]: but i started playing around 10 years older than you
rabitz [3k\]: my brain was more ossified
rabitz [3k\]: if you enjoy the game, you'll do fine
Lanrose [17k?\]: I really do 
rabitz [3k\]: and you have a reasonable chance of reaching 1 dan or better, with patience
rabitz [3k\]: I'm gonna say goodbye
rabitz [3k\]: I was making a slad and i'll return to that
Lanrose [17k?\]: Alright have a good rest of your night
rabitz [3k\]: goodnight
Lanrose [17k?\]: Thanks for the game it was fun I hope to play you again
rabitz [3k\]: i hope so too
]))
(;B[ki]C[Lanrose [17k?\]: maybe I should just stay away from pro games
rabitz [3k\]: a little too early for pro games, but when you get to , hmm, i'm not sure, maybe 12k, it will make a little more sense
rabitz [3k\]: and even then you still won't understand much
]))
(;B[ij]
;W[lk]C[rabitz [3k\]: yes, seems better
]
(;B[dh]C[rabitz [3k\]: you know the terms sente and gote
rabitz [3k\]: i assume
Lanrose [17k?\]: yeah 
rabitz [3k\]: d6 is sente
Lanrose [17k?\]: is J2 not?
rabitz [3k\]: you won't ignore it, and it makes your stones stronger there
Lanrose [17k?\]: i guess i just dont see why you went D6 then J2 and not J2 then D6
]
;W[ch]C[Lanrose [17k?\]: so why did you play D6 there before playing J2?
]
;B[il]
;W[kl]
;B[ci]
;W[bi])
(;B[il]C[Lanrose [17k?\]: wouldnt you need to respond or i take the corner?
rabitz [3k\]: ok, seems the same
])))
(;B[ck]C[rabitz [3k\]: this seems large to me
Lanrose [17k?\]: i was thinking about playing there
Lanrose [17k?\]: I dont really know why i didnt
]))
(;B[he]C[rabitz [3k\]: i can capture 2 stones, but you make a more solid wall and get another play for territory if i want the 2 stones
]
;W[je]
;B[ck]
;W[jg]C[Lanrose [17k?\]: okay i see
]))
(;B[hc]C[rabitz [3k\]: maybe here
]
;W[gc]
;B[gd]
;W[he]
;B[ge]
;W[hf]
;B[gb]
;W[fc]
;B[fb]C[rabitz [3k\]: but a lot to read
]))
(;B[id]TR[kf]C[rabitz [3k\]: i get slightly larger corner
rabitz [3k\]: but you get right side, my stone there dying
]))
