(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[0.50]
PW[True]PB[Khelly]WR[9d]BR[5k]DT[2015-09-05]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[Khelly [5k?\]: Hello True
Khelly [5k?\]: What's your favourite pokemon
Khelly [5k?\]: well uhh
Khelly [5k?\]: do you want me to talk about what I think?
True [9d?\]: sure
Khelly [5k?\]: your turn
True [9d?\]: its good
True [9d?\]: you have good fundamentals
Khelly [5k?\]: wait until you see my middle game
Khelly [5k?\]: It's actually horrible
Khelly [5k?\]: I don't fight and play passively
True [9d?\]: if so it might be because you focus a bit too much on fuseki
Khelly [5k?\]: I do
Khelly [5k?\]: but I enjoy it
Khelly [5k?\]: so what can I do
True [9d?\]: i know another person like you who also focuses on fuseki
True [9d?\]: but his level stagnated cause of it
True [9d?\]: cause he doesn't review the middle game much, just the opening 
Khelly [5k?\]: I might be 3-4k now if I play ranked but I have ladder anxiety
Khelly [5k?\]: so I can't play faceless people
True [9d?\]: lol
Khelly [5k?\]: but I've beaten my 3k friend and 4k in free games
True [9d?\]: like starcraft
Khelly [5k?\]: so vOv
True [9d?\]: oh good good
Khelly [5k?\]: anyways, your review?
True [9d?\]: the thing is, improving your fuseki anymore only makes a marginal difference to your results
Khelly [5k?\]: Well
Khelly [5k?\]: How I feel
True [9d?\]: but middle game mistakes can be worth several small fuseki errors
Khelly [5k?\]: is if I can play
Khelly [5k?\]: the first 50 moves
Khelly [5k?\]: and be even or btter than KGS 5d and weaker
Khelly [5k?\]: and all my other skills are 2k
Khelly [5k?\]: I am fine
Khelly [5k?\]: and happy
True [9d?\]: oh?
True [9d?\]: why not your entire skill set better than kgs 5d
Khelly [5k?\]: Making an entire skillset is harder than one no?
True [9d?\]: well in terms of practicality
True [9d?\]: a 2d middle game will beat a 5d opening, 2k middle everytime
Khelly [5k?\]: That's true too but
Khelly [5k?\]: It's not me
Khelly [5k?\]: I'm fine with having the others lag behind
True [9d?\]: i see
Khelly [5k?\]: But
Khelly [5k?\]: if people ask me for advice
Khelly [5k?\]: I'd say to just study basic fuseki fundamentals but not go overboard
Khelly [5k?\]: because it's still important
Khelly [5k?\]: not to go into the game at a disadvantage
Khelly [5k?\]: like why handicap yourself if you don't have to
True [9d?\]: its true
Khelly [5k?\]: But for ME personally fuseki is the most fun
True [9d?\]: k
]RE[W+Resign]
(;B[qd]C[True [9d?\]: hello khelly with an h
True [9d?\]: the one in my pic
Khelly [5k?\]: People don't like the h :<
]
;W[dp]
;B[dc]
;W[qp]
;B[ce]
;W[od]C[True [9d?\]: what anime is your pic from?
Khelly [5k?\]: Apparently black rock shooter
Khelly [5k?\]: I don't watch it - I just like the picture
True [9d?\]: oh lol
True [9d?\]: never heard of it
]
(;B[oc]C[Khelly [5k?\]: I felt this joseki is ok just cause
Khelly [5k?\]: I want points
Khelly [5k?\]: my think
Khelly [5k?\]: thing
]
;W[nc]
;B[pc]
;W[md]
;B[qf]
;W[ic]C[Khelly [5k?\]: Path said you taught maths
Khelly [5k?\]: I considered g17 now but
Khelly [5k?\]: I think an approach was bigger
Khelly [5k?\]: you wouldn't respond j15
Khelly [5k?\]: I think
]
;B[oq]C[True [9d?\]: yep
Khelly [5k?\]: What kind
]
;W[kq]C[True [9d?\]: alg 1 and ap statistics
tsukiatari [7k\]: jiggly puff ;o
]
(;B[pp]C[Khelly [5k?\]: I got a 5 in my stats
Khelly [5k?\]: This uh
Khelly [5k?\]: I wanted to test the joseki out
]
(;W[qq]C[Khelly [5k?\]: :V
True [9d?\]: woot
]
;B[qo]
;W[po]
;B[ro]
;W[oo]C[True [9d?\]: been a long time since i seen this joseki
True [9d?\]: wonder if i even remember it
Khelly [5k?\]: I was actually
Khelly [5k?\]: reading about this yesterday
]
;B[pq]
;W[qr]
;B[rp]
;W[nq]
;B[nr]C[Khelly [5k?\]: How is AP stats teaching
True [9d?\]: very fun
True [9d?\]: i like teaching seniors a lot more than freshmen
Khelly [5k?\]: You know what we were made to do for AP stats and Calc?
Khelly [5k?\]: In February we finished the course
True [9d?\]: hm?
Khelly [5k?\]: From Feb to May
True [9d?\]: what
Khelly [5k?\]: We did EVERY SINGLE released ap frq
True [9d?\]: oh nice
Khelly [5k?\]: Yeah
Khelly [5k?\]: HW was the FRQs he printed for us + 5 steps to a 5 and in class everyday we'd go over the teacher's answer and the AP's answer to the problems we did
Khelly [5k?\]: And he had a very specific format because he was a stats grader
True [9d?\]: ah
True [9d?\]: hmm
Khelly [5k?\]: Do you know rjm?
]
(;W[mr]C[Infinite [7d\]: Oi noob
True [9d?\]: vaguely
Khelly [5k?\]: Rude
Infinite [7d\]: Pm
Infinite [7d\]: -.-
True [9d?\]: no clue who that person is talking to
Infinite [7d\]: Nlop u stupid pig ò.ó
Khelly [5k?\]: Maybe because you played off of the joseki I was reading yesterday
Khelly [5k?\]: :<
Infinite [7d\]: I hate ly
Khelly [5k?\]: Now I have to think
True [9d?\]: lol
Infinite [7d\]: Iiars! Ò.ó
Infinite [7d\]: Ruchan u pig!
True [9d?\]: what, i answerd in pm
Khelly [5k?\]: this attachment
True [9d?\]: i actually
True [9d?\]: don't know how to get a good result for b
True [9d?\]: in this shape
Khelly [5k?\]: woah
Khelly [5k?\]: cause
Khelly [5k?\]: what I was readnig
Khelly [5k?\]: white palyed n23
Khelly [5k?\]: n3
Khelly [5k?\]: acutally
Khelly [5k?\]: in that variation
True [9d?\]: but this one is better i think
Khelly [5k?\]: with the trade
True [9d?\]: but overall
True [9d?\]: i don't see an even variation for b
True [9d?\]: which is weird cause i've studied this pattern in the past
Khelly [5k?\]: maybe machine would know haha
True [9d?\]: maybe
Khelly [5k?\]: beep boop
Khelly [5k?\]: machine
Khelly [5k?\]: mm so you played o4
]
(;B[or]
(;W[np]C[Khelly [5k?\]: How DOES kgs drift you up to 9d
Khelly [5k?\]: From just beating a 6d at 7d handi
Khelly [5k?\]: i.e, no komi
True [9d?\]: lol
Infinite [7d\]: Cuz he cheat
True [9d?\]: its cause the 6d became an 8d later
Khelly [5k?\]: O right
Infinite [7d\]: He cheats
Khelly [5k?\]: Good win
Infinite [7d\]: Thats why
Khelly [5k?\]: Man I never read before playing
Khelly [5k?\]: Or else I would s2 and not care
]
;B[rr]C[Khelly [5k?\]: I just wanted to me super sure s2 worked
Khelly [5k?\]: so I took too long
Khelly [5k?\]: sorry
]
(;W[cn]C[Khelly [5k?\]: I heard that in 2006 people started liking star point enclosures
True [9d?\]: ah
Khelly [5k?\]: Actually my next move will probably tell you how much I am bad at fuseki
True [9d?\]: actually i think i made a mistake this game
Khelly [5k?\]: It's not a serious game so like
True [9d?\]: i hadn't seen the bottom right variation in a long time and never seen p2
True [9d?\]: but i think white could've done something very interesting
True [9d?\]: instead of o4
Khelly [5k?\]: Like s3?
True [9d?\]: yea
Khelly [5k?\]: You people with so much experience
Khelly [5k?\]: Completely new and obscure things to me are just "Things I haven't seen in a while"
True [9d?\]: by a while i mean like several years
True [9d?\]: its fine
Khelly [5k?\]: I wonder
Khelly [5k?\]: instead of c6 how do you fel
Khelly [5k?\]: about
Khelly [5k?\]: c10 /d10
Khelly [5k?\]: type move
]
;B[gc]TR[jo][ko][jp][dr][er]C[Khelly [5k?\]: I don't like this move
Khelly [5k?\]: But I will play it
Khelly [5k?\]: since
Khelly [5k?\]: I thought I had miai of
Khelly [5k?\]: some such moves
Khelly [5k?\]: I played this
Khelly [5k?\]: extension
True [9d?\]: makes sense
Khelly [5k?\]: seemed big for w
Khelly [5k?\]: I wanted
Khelly [5k?\]: to get an m17 thing
Khelly [5k?\]: maybe
Khelly [5k?\]: if you ignroed
]
;W[db]C[True [9d?\]: what don't you like about it
True [9d?\]: its a good move
Khelly [5k?\]: Well
Khelly [5k?\]: My kyu instinct was to play on the bottom but then when I was thinking about moves
Khelly [5k?\]: I realised that I could get some e2/d2 or k4
Khelly [5k?\]: so I moved to the top left
Khelly [5k?\]: and wanted to finish this
Khelly [5k?\]: but it was only two spaces but it felt big
True [9d?\]: its big cause it also attacks
Khelly [5k?\]: yeah
Khelly [5k?\]: But then you probe and I dunno what to play
True [9d?\]: its just an asking move
True [9d?\]: its not meant to trick, its meant to see how you respond
Khelly [5k?\]: Problem is I don't know what the responses mean besides e17
Khelly [5k?\]: :<
True [9d?\]: there's not necessarily a good or bad response
True [9d?\]: just i'll play according to what you choose
Khelly [5k?\]: I dunno
Khelly [5k?\]: what to play here
Khelly [5k?\]: I just played the move I thought
Khelly [5k?\]: least helped you get shape
Khelly [5k?\]: something you know
]
(;B[dd]C[Khelly [5k?\]: Then I choose this one
True [9d?\]: k
Khelly [5k?\]: No special reason
Khelly [5k?\]: if you wanted to come out
]
;W[eb]C[True [9d?\]: (> . @ . )>
]
;B[cb]C[Khelly [5k?\]: Probably too hasty
Khelly [5k?\]: fuseki is hard
True [9d?\]: that it is
Khelly [5k?\]: Like
Khelly [5k?\]: made me want to do this
]
;W[fc]C[Khelly [5k?\]: if I had played
Khelly [5k?\]: c18 originally
Khelly [5k?\]: would I play d16 instead of e17 in response to e18
Khelly [5k?\]: so
Khelly [5k?\]: I need to remember this one
]
(;B[fd]
;W[gb]C[True [9d?\]: probably not, but then neither will white play E18
Khelly [5k?\]: :(
True [9d?\]: well its okay
Khelly [5k?\]: reverts?
Khelly [5k?\]: I didn't get to think
Khelly [5k?\]: in your original variation
Khelly [5k?\]: instead of fight
True [9d?\]: g16 is a mistake too
Khelly [5k?\]: yeah maybe h18 huehuaehua
True [9d?\]: cause its less valuable than white J15
Khelly [5k?\]: after w jump
]
(;B[gd]C[Khelly [5k?\]: I played easy move
]
;W[bb]C[Khelly [5k?\]: huh
Khelly [5k?\]: I can just play c19?
True [9d?\]: yep
Khelly [5k?\]: I dunno
True [9d?\]: just another asking move
Khelly [5k?\]: the only drawback I see is you get d19 for free but
Khelly [5k?\]: I remember
Khelly [5k?\]: in the
Khelly [5k?\]: uhh
Khelly [5k?\]: If you play d2 white d3 and you come out and white hane the inside
Khelly [5k?\]: this clamp is also a thing
True [9d?\]: mhm
Khelly [5k?\]: it reverst right
]
(;B[ca]C[Khelly [5k?\]: tbh
True [9d?\]: descent is normal
True [9d?\]: its basically an asking move like my original D18
True [9d?\]: see what you do
True [9d?\]: and play accordingly
Khelly [5k?\]: ok so here
]
(;W[ie]C[Khelly [5k?\]: If I played
Khelly [5k?\]: h17
Khelly [5k?\]: instead of connect
Khelly [5k?\]: what aji do you lave here
Khelly [5k?\]: you said
Khelly [5k?\]: you werne't sure
Khelly [5k?\]: about 10
Khelly [5k?\]: d10
]
(;B[dj]C[Khelly [5k?\]: left side biggest but
Khelly [5k?\]: I didn't know where to extend
Khelly [5k?\]: d9 seemed to ofar
Khelly [5k?\]: err
Khelly [5k?\]: close to you
True [9d?\]: this one is okay
Khelly [5k?\]: d11 too close to me
Khelly [5k?\]: with b18
]
(;W[eq]C[Khelly [5k?\]: but
Khelly [5k?\]: So I ended up shoulder hitting
tsukiatari [7k\]: h17 is called tsukiatari :D
Khelly [5k?\]: It's not an atari though
Khelly [5k?\]: ;-;
tsukiatari [7k\]: it is ;o
]
(;B[jp]C[Khelly [5k?\]: maybe
Khelly [5k?\]: I played too fast here
Khelly [5k?\]: cause it's in your sector line
]
;W[jq]
;B[hp]
(;W[im]LB[gn:A][eo:B][fq:C]C[Khelly [5k?\]: Think we're in middle game now
Khelly [5k?\]: End here?
True [9d?\]: sure
Khelly [5k?\]: so
Khelly [5k?\]: My uhh
Khelly [5k?\]: instinct is to j3
Khelly [5k?\]: since you didn't play it
Khelly [5k?\]: but
True [9d?\]: ah
Khelly [5k?\]: seems like I'd just be diggin ymself
Khelly [5k?\]: in your influence
True [9d?\]: ahah
Khelly [5k?\]: hard fuseki
Khelly [5k?\]: man
Khelly [5k?\]: I tried
Khelly [5k?\]: real hard
True [9d?\]: gj
True [9d?\]: your fuseki is not bad at all
Khelly [5k?\]: I can't start review ))
True [9d?\]: you can now
Khelly [5k?\]: so here
Khelly [5k?\]: first idea
Khelly [5k?\]: I didn't have a move
Khelly [5k?\]: vague
Khelly [5k?\]: running
Khelly [5k?\]: vague attach
Khelly [5k?\]: was at a loss
Khelly [5k?\]: so that's my ideas
Khelly [5k?\]: so
Khelly [5k?\]: k4
Khelly [5k?\]: any other moev?
Khelly [5k?\]: Dunno what now
True [9d?\]: i think black is a bit uncomfortable
Khelly [5k?\]: I would liketo have made this shape
Khelly [5k?\]: :<
True [9d?\]: lol
Khelly [5k?\]: I had no move
True [9d?\]: yea i think its uncomfortable
Khelly [5k?\]: play A and hope for the bst
]
(;B[iq]C[Khelly [5k?\]: take point you didn't
Khelly [5k?\]: but
Khelly [5k?\]: probably not good
Khelly [5k?\]: like what if you peep now
]
;W[io]C[True [9d?\]: mm yea
])
(;B[gn]
;W[gm]C[True [9d?\]: white will keep black pinned inside then play C12
True [9d?\]: later the center influence will help when white also does P13
True [9d?\]: so compared to the situation where black directly invaded the bottom
True [9d?\]: white never got this kind of attack
True [9d?\]: and this attack makes D10 a bit of a liability
True [9d?\]: so thats why i think d10 may not have been the optimal choice
Khelly [5k?\]: I am satisfied with
Khelly [5k?\]: the c6 j15 
Khelly [5k?\]: explanation
Khelly [5k?\]: about d10
Khelly [5k?\]: actually
True [9d?\]: yea
Khelly [5k?\]: mm
True [9d?\]: there's a lot of factors
Khelly [5k?\]: can I show you a 50 move game
True [9d?\]: lol
True [9d?\]: maybe another time? i have a friend waiting to play me
Khelly [5k?\]: ah ok
True [9d?\]: but perhaps you can show path
Khelly [5k?\]: can I uhh
Khelly [5k?\]: Just play through it
Khelly [5k?\]: for you
True [9d?\]: mm okay
]))
(;W[iq]C[Khelly [5k?\]: yeah
Khelly [5k?\]: expeced this
]
;B[hn]C[True [9d?\]: ah
]))
(;B[jo]C[Khelly [5k?\]: I don't
Khelly [5k?\]: like this cap
]
;W[ip]C[Khelly [5k?\]: cause white does this
Khelly [5k?\]: and I think
Khelly [5k?\]: it's bad
])
(;B[pm]C[True [9d?\]: maybe around here
Khelly [5k?\]: I like the right better
True [9d?\]: but
]
(;W[og]C[True [9d?\]: white has a good move here too
True [9d?\]: but q7 sort of helps you reduce
Khelly [5k?\]: what about
Khelly [5k?\]: the o15 peep
Khelly [5k?\]: before q7
Khelly [5k?\]: does that do anything
Khelly [5k?\]: in this board
True [9d?\]: right
]
(;B[jn]C[True [9d?\]: and one reduction move
True [9d?\]: is not bad too
]
;W[ip]C[Khelly [5k?\]: If white treats q7 p13 like miai maybe
Khelly [5k?\]: to tenuki q10
Khelly [5k?\]: and let black bend through potentially
Khelly [5k?\]: but it's ok cause stone is light?
True [9d?\]: when?
Khelly [5k?\]: in that last variation
]
(;B[cl]TR[dd][gd][dj][or]C[True [9d?\]: like you might wonder
True [9d?\]: why i go here
True [9d?\]: and not Q12
True [9d?\]: cause this move creates B4 aji
Khelly [5k?\]: kyu answer - cause he wants points on the left duh
True [9d?\]: and also
True [9d?\]: protects against white c13
True [9d?\]: which invokes B18 aji
True [9d?\]: so this move not only creates aji in white's bottom left
True [9d?\]: it subdues aji in the top left
Khelly [5k?\]: I think I would play q12 immediately after p13 in my own games
Khelly [5k?\]: tbhg
Khelly [5k?\]: tbh
True [9d?\]: making it bigger than just trying to surround C12 area
Khelly [5k?\]: 4th linetoo hard to resist
True [9d?\]: yea
True [9d?\]: but
True [9d?\]: cause after C8
True [9d?\]: you create potential to destroy the ocrner or G3 area still
True [9d?\]: *corner
Khelly [5k?\]: so
True [9d?\]: which is why white allows black to q12 if black wants
Khelly [5k?\]: whom would you like in this game
True [9d?\]: cause white can still destroy that area
True [9d?\]: i like w
Khelly [5k?\]: any reason
True [9d?\]: cause w didn't make any mistakes other than neglecting to do s3 punishment
Khelly [5k?\]: What was B mistake
Khelly [5k?\]: at this move
Khelly [5k?\]: and before
Khelly [5k?\]: is g16 the mistake or f16
True [9d?\]: this one i'm also not certain about
Khelly [5k?\]: let's go back to it
]
;W[qg]
;B[pg]
(;W[pf]
;B[ph]
;W[qe]C[True [9d?\]: oh
True [9d?\]: so strongest always means best move usually
True [9d?\]: powerful means its a very sharp move but it doesn't necesssarily imply its the best
]
;B[rf]
;W[pd]
;B[re]
;W[qc]C[Khelly [5k?\]: you would wedge
]
;B[pe]C[Khelly [5k?\]: man
]
;W[rc]C[Khelly [5k?\]: I would have just like extended
Khelly [5k?\]: I would q14 though
]
;B[oe]
;W[nd]C[True [9d?\]: its another way
True [9d?\]: wedge is also powerful
Khelly [5k?\]: withouta second though
Khelly [5k?\]: cause I am bad
True [9d?\]: its not cause you are bad
Khelly [5k?\]: O
True [9d?\]: most people would think q14
Khelly [5k?\]: It's cause
Khelly [5k?\]: I am afraid
Khelly [5k?\]: what if q14
True [9d?\]: normally one wouldn't think of the wedge unless they have a lot of experience with tewari
True [9d?\]: so Q7
Khelly [5k?\]: I can't tewari fighting
True [9d?\]: helps makes the wedge feasible
True [9d?\]: cause in this shape
True [9d?\]: the exhcnage you got
True [9d?\]: helps you build a nice influence in that area
]
;B[bp]C[Khelly [5k?\]: so 
Khelly [5k?\]: what's difference
Khelly [5k?\]: if you say
Khelly [5k?\]: strongest
Khelly [5k?\]: and powerful
]
(;W[bo]
;B[gq]C[True [9d?\]: i'm not sure
True [9d?\]: but you could do something like this
True [9d?\]: i think
]
;W[go]C[Khelly [5k?\]: what is point of b4 b5 exchange
Khelly [5k?\]: with g3
]
;B[dr]
;W[er]
;B[cp]
;W[co]C[Khelly [5k?\]: oh
Khelly [5k?\]: makes d2 possible?
]
(;B[dq])
(;B[fp]
;W[en]
;B[dq]
;W[ep]C[Khelly [5k?\]: if white caps g3?
]
;B[br]C[True [9d?\]: yea
True [9d?\]: there are some hidden aims
]))
(;W[cp]C[True [9d?\]: if white backs off
]
;B[bo]
;W[bq]
(;B[bn])
(;B[br]
(;W[cq]
;B[bn]C[True [9d?\]: you can severely reduce the corner
])
(;W[aq]
;B[bn]
;W[eh]C[True [9d?\]: tricky
]
(;B[gq]C[True [9d?\]: and later
True [9d?\]: the d2 aji appears again
])
(;B[hp]
;W[ho]
;B[fp]C[True [9d?\]: i'm not certain on the best way to exploit it
True [9d?\]: but could be something like this
]
;W[gp]
;B[fq]
;W[fo]
;B[dr]
;W[cq]
(;B[ep]
;W[eo]
;B[dq])
(;B[hq]
;W[er]
;B[iq]
;W[jq]))
(;B[fq]
;W[fp]
;B[gp]C[True [9d?\]: maybe like this
True [9d?\]: anyway these are possibilities you can think of
Khelly [5k?\]: I think
Khelly [5k?\]: seeing aji is hard
True [9d?\]: yea it takes time
True [9d?\]: first you need exposure to whats possible
Khelly [5k?\]: like the way you say things
Khelly [5k?\]: It's like you play to specifically get to exploit the aji
True [9d?\]: then later as your reading builds up, you learn to start being creative
True [9d?\]: ahah
Khelly [5k?\]: wrong?
True [9d?\]: nope
Khelly [5k?\]: yeah
Khelly [5k?\]: I see ntohing on the board iwth b2
True [9d?\]: potential aji affects the size value of moves
Khelly [5k?\]: but you come up with thigns
])))))
(;W[ph]
;B[pf]
;W[oh]C[True [9d?\]: cause if you get white to play this
Khelly [5k?\]: yeah if white backs down
Khelly [5k?\]: it's better
True [9d?\]: white's shape has a defect
Khelly [5k?\]: than just q14
True [9d?\]: yea
]))
(;B[ph]TR[pk]SQ[me][ne][mf][nf][rf][sf][rg][sg]C[True [9d?\]: its still open
True [9d?\]: meaning you only increase
True [9d?\]: this much for certain
True [9d?\]: but
True [9d?\]: white also increases his area
]
;W[pk]C[True [9d?\]: for example
Khelly [5k?\]: kinda feels weird
]
(;B[oh]
;W[om]C[True [9d?\]: white can not only reduce your area like this
True [9d?\]: it can increase the white potential
]
;B[pl]
;W[ol]
;B[qk]
;W[jl])
(;B[nm]C[True [9d?\]: also white doesn't need to push at P12
]
(;W[oh]C[True [9d?\]: and likewise
]
;B[pi]C[Khelly [5k?\]: you just played
]
;W[oi]
(;B[pj]C[True [9d?\]: oh here?
Khelly [5k?\]: ye
Khelly [5k?\]: you should still cut right?
]
(;W[eh])
(;W[hh]C[True [9d?\]: or something like this later
])
(;W[oj]))
(;B[oj]C[True [9d?\]: actually i was wondering
True [9d?\]: if black could go here
]
(;W[nl]C[Khelly [5k?\]: even if he can
True [9d?\]: but
Khelly [5k?\]: mm
True [9d?\]: there's some resistance moves
Khelly [5k?\]: I wasgoingto ask
True [9d?\]: hm?
True [9d?\]: which one were you thinking of
Khelly [5k?\]: q10
]
(;B[ok]
;W[ol]
;B[pl]C[True [9d?\]: like this?
Khelly [5k?\]: well uhh
Khelly [5k?\]: ok this works too
])
(;B[pj]
;W[mm]C[Khelly [5k?\]: for w
]))
(;W[pj]
;B[nj]C[True [9d?\]: ah no
True [9d?\]: i don't think its good
True [9d?\]: its kind of in danger
])))
(;W[nk]C[True [9d?\]: its also possible
]
;B[oh]
;W[mm]C[True [9d?\]: in cany case P13 helps to slow black down
True [9d?\]: *any
True [9d?\]: if black tries to surround that area
]))))
(;B[ph]C[True [9d?\]: so just a single exchange is not bad
Khelly [5k?\]: than q12
]
;W[ch]C[True [9d?\]: then maybe white invades
Khelly [5k?\]: yeah c8
Khelly [5k?\]: looks way better
Khelly [5k?\]: now
]))
(;W[cl]
;B[ng]C[True [9d?\]: cause black normally expands like this
]))
(;B[cl]
;W[qn]C[True [9d?\]: cause white has a big move here
]
;B[rn]
;W[qm]C[Khelly [5k?\]: mm yeah
])
(;B[ne]
;W[nd]C[True [9d?\]: might be a bad exchange
])
(;B[jd]
;W[id]
;B[lc]
;W[mb]
;B[jb]C[True [9d?\]: cause there is other possible aji
True [9d?\]: that you might use depending on the situation
]
;W[ib]
;B[le]))
(;W[cg]))
(;B[er]C[True [9d?\]: cause J15 and C6 are already reducing the left side
Khelly [5k?\]: hmmmm
True [9d?\]: same with B18 aji
True [9d?\]: its not exactly that valuable of an area
True [9d?\]: anymore
True [9d?\]: the virtue of D10 is it helps reduce the white bottom area
Khelly [5k?\]: but not build...
True [9d?\]: but i think directly destroying it could be better
]
;W[dr]
(;B[eq]
;W[dq]
;B[iq])
(;B[jq]C[Khelly [5k?\]: what about wedging d3
]
(;W[eq]
;B[kp]
;W[lq]C[Khelly [5k?\]: that's a thing right
]
;B[jn]TR[ce][qf][cn][qo]C[True [9d?\]: so maybe
True [9d?\]: you can reduce like this
True [9d?\]: it sort of attacks as a pseudo attack on o3 stones at the same time
Khelly [5k?\]: o yeah
Khelly [5k?\]: when you said
True [9d?\]: low potential on both sides
True [9d?\]: so you can treat them like miai
True [9d?\]: therefore bottom is the place to go imo
]
;W[ck]C[Khelly [5k?\]: white didn't make any mistakes yet
]
;B[pm]C[Khelly [5k?\]: o4 :^)
True [9d?\]: i said
True [9d?\]: other than white neglecting s3 punishment
Khelly [5k?\]: I forgot
True [9d?\]: o4 isn't bad for white, its just normal
Khelly [5k?\]: yeah
Khelly [5k?\]: mm
])
(;W[jp]C[True [9d?\]: yea
Khelly [5k?\]: looks textbook almost
]
;B[iq]
;W[ip]C[Khelly [5k?\]: nice driving tesuji
]
;B[kr]
;W[lq]
;B[dq]
;W[eq]
;B[cq]
;W[cr]
;B[cp]
;W[do]
;B[fr]
;W[br]C[True [9d?\]: if this
]
;B[ep]
;W[fq]
;B[gq]
;W[fp]
;B[fo]C[True [9d?\]: there is a good move here
]
;W[gp]
;B[hp]
;W[go]
;B[ho]
;W[gn]
;B[jo]))
(;B[dq]
;W[eq]
;B[cq]
;W[cr]
;B[cp]
;W[do]
;B[fr]
;W[br]C[True [9d?\]: yes but
True [9d?\]: in this scenario you have nothing to lean on
True [9d?\]: to make use of E4 aji
True [9d?\]: so the white corner territory is better
])))
(;W[cg]C[True [9d?\]: it has to do with this move
]
;B[ci]
;W[ee]C[Khelly [5k?\]: instead of descent
]
;B[ed]
;W[bd]
;B[bc]
;W[be]C[Khelly [5k?\]: would c17 have been better?
]))
(;B[cc]C[True [9d?\]: if you connect later i get a big yose at c19
]))
(;B[hc]C[Khelly [5k?\]: instead of h18
Khelly [5k?\]: we all conncted
Khelly [5k?\]: and I got a wall thingy I used to play d10 with?
]
;W[hb]C[True [9d?\]: nope
Khelly [5k?\]: oh
Khelly [5k?\]: h18 now
True [9d?\]: cause white won't descend in this case
True [9d?\]: yea
Khelly [5k?\]: I wonder
Khelly [5k?\]: why j18
]))
(;B[hc]C[True [9d?\]: this is the strongest move
Khelly [5k?\]: now
Khelly [5k?\]: when you say strongest
Khelly [5k?\]: do you mean it like
Khelly [5k?\]: not best but uhh
True [9d?\]: 99% of high dans would play it
Khelly [5k?\]: Fighty/aggressive/good if you don't mess it up cause it;s complicated
True [9d?\]: i think you are confusing it with the meaning most aggressive
Khelly [5k?\]: yeah
Khelly [5k?\]: I am
True [9d?\]: yea no, i mean strongest as in, its the best move
Khelly [5k?\]: Yeah I seei tnow
tsukiatari [7k\]: just not in the go sense
Khelly [5k?\]: oh
Khelly [5k?\]: if you want atari to mean hit
Khelly [5k?\]: maybe
Khelly [5k?\]: Time to put this sgf in my go journal~
]
(;W[ib]C[Khelly [5k?\]: It's just a blind spot
]
;B[fd]
;W[gb]C[True [9d?\]: like this or
])
(;W[fd]C[Khelly [5k?\]: Read my profile :3
True [9d?\]: something about wanting to be someone's pretty princess?
Khelly [5k?\]: Of course
True [9d?\]: lol
]
;B[id]
(;W[jc]
;B[jd]
;W[kc]
;B[ge]
;W[fe]C[True [9d?\]: something like this
])
(;W[ib]
;B[jd]
;W[kc]
;B[kd]
;W[lc]
;B[hb]C[True [9d?\]: perhaps like this
True [9d?\]: and fight
]
;W[ge]
;B[he]
;W[gg]C[Khelly [5k?\]: fight :(
True [9d?\]: you dislike?
]))
(;W[hb]C[Khelly [5k?\]: yeah
]
;B[gb]C[Khelly [5k?\]: ok
Khelly [5k?\]: I see nwo
True [9d?\]: lol
Khelly [5k?\]: Move order
Khelly [5k?\]: stuff
True [9d?\]: yep
])))
(;B[cc]C[True [9d?\]: this is more common
Khelly [5k?\]: yeah
Khelly [5k?\]: I was going to play it
Khelly [5k?\]: but
]))
(;W[cj]
;B[cq]C[True [9d?\]: i don't like this weakness
Khelly [5k?\]: Oh right
Khelly [5k?\]: I don't play 4-4 often now
Khelly [5k?\]: I forget
Khelly [5k?\]: lowness sucks nwo
]))
(;W[rq]C[True [9d?\]: here white should block, i'm sure
Khelly [5k?\]: b t2?
]
;B[sr]
;W[sq]C[Khelly [5k?\]: I think
Khelly [5k?\]: the o3 area
Khelly [5k?\]: is intersting now
Khelly [5k?\]: but
Khelly [5k?\]: I kinda
Khelly [5k?\]: want to play q6 too
True [9d?\]: so which?
Khelly [5k?\]: well
Khelly [5k?\]: if white q6
Khelly [5k?\]: the double hane doesn't work but
Khelly [5k?\]: he can extend once and hane
Khelly [5k?\]: then I have 4 liberties
Khelly [5k?\]: which is what white has in the corner but white has an eye
Khelly [5k?\]: and also it's 2nd line
Khelly [5k?\]: which is crap
Khelly [5k?\]: so
Khelly [5k?\]: I don't think
Khelly [5k?\]: white can just take away my liberties on the inside with that o3 weakness
Khelly [5k?\]: so
Khelly [5k?\]: I think
Khelly [5k?\]: q6
Khelly [5k?\]: ?
]
(;B[pn]
;W[np]C[True [9d?\]: and then?
Khelly [5k?\]: well
Khelly [5k?\]: If I play q1 and white blocks at r1 (This is my process)
Khelly [5k?\]: he has 4 point eye space for 5 libs
Khelly [5k?\]: -1
Khelly [5k?\]: + 54
Khelly [5k?\]: t4
Khelly [5k?\]: and I have no eyes
Khelly [5k?\]: and he has q2
Khelly [5k?\]: cause he has the ye
Khelly [5k?\]: I dont' have q2
Khelly [5k?\]: yeah I don't think I can win this race
])
(;B[mq]
;W[np]
;B[lr]
;W[qm]
;B[rm]
;W[rl]
;B[rn]
;W[qn]C[Khelly [5k?\]: actually that's really complicated
]
;B[ql]
(;W[rk]C[True [9d?\]: yea i think it could be like this
]
;B[qk]
;W[qj]
;B[pj]
;W[qi]
;B[pn]
;W[pm]
;B[on])
(;W[mp]
;B[lq]
;W[rk]
(;B[pn]
;W[pm]
;B[qk])
(;B[qk]
;W[qj]
;B[pj]
;W[qi]C[True [9d?\]: yep
True [9d?\]: but
True [9d?\]: i think white can win it
]
;B[pn]
;W[pm]
;B[on]
;W[nm]C[True [9d?\]: so this is one of the reasons why i think middle game skill is pretty important
True [9d?\]: it can help you in opening patterns that are new
Khelly [5k?\]: how should  b play then
Khelly [5k?\]: if white s3
True [9d?\]: uh i think black will die on one side
])))))
(;B[np]
;W[mq]C[Khelly [5k?\]: this again
]
;B[op]C[Khelly [5k?\]: go back
]
;W[mo]C[Khelly [5k?\]: crap I am never playing
]
(;B[no]C[Khelly [5k?\]: to the net
]
;W[nn]C[Khelly [5k?\]: wait
]
;B[on]
;W[pn]
;B[om]
;W[pm]
;B[pl]
;W[qm]
;B[mn]
;W[nm]
;B[ol]
;W[mm]C[True [9d?\]: i dunno
True [9d?\]: i don't actually see a good way for b
Khelly [5k?\]: just the net
])
(;B[pr]C[True [9d?\]: this one?
Khelly [5k?\]: what if
Khelly [5k?\]: n4?
])
(;B[mp]
;W[lo]C[Khelly [5k?\]: push again?
]
(;B[lq])
(;B[lp]
;W[kp]C[Khelly [5k?\]: cut through?
]
;B[no]
;W[nn]
;B[on]
;W[pn]
;B[om]
;W[pm]C[True [9d?\]: trying to make a ladder?
Khelly [5k?\]: vOv
True [9d?\]: but i don't see one
Khelly [5k?\]: hane?
]
;B[pl]
;W[qm]C[Khelly [5k?\]: connct?
]
;B[ol]C[Khelly [5k?\]: I still make myself do 50+ L&D a day
]
(;W[mm]
;B[rm]C[True [9d?\]: here?
Khelly [5k?\]: I'm just saying ideas
Khelly [5k?\]: I don't read 
Khelly [5k?\]: :V
]
;W[ql]
;B[qk]C[Khelly [5k?\]: good lord thi is complicated
]
;W[rl]
;B[rk]
;W[rn]
;B[qn]
;W[sm]
;B[sk]
;W[sl]
(;B[sp]
;W[rq])
(;B[sn]
;W[so]
;B[sp]))
(;W[rn]C[Khelly [5k?\]: Good thing you didn't play s3
Khelly [5k?\]: :^)
True [9d?\]: think white would go here
True [9d?\]: yea i played too fast
True [9d?\]: i thought it was the only way at first glance
]
;B[mn]C[Khelly [5k?\]: playing out the t6 capture
True [9d?\]: ah
Khelly [5k?\]: I don't like fighitng but
True [9d?\]: oh thats good
]
(;W[rq]C[True [9d?\]: something like this
Khelly [5k?\]: so  like a trade?
Khelly [5k?\]: yeah
]
;B[ln]
;W[ko]C[True [9d?\]: yea
Khelly [5k?\]: mm
Khelly [5k?\]: is this good
True [9d?\]: seems better for w
Khelly [5k?\]: well
Khelly [5k?\]: B sente at least
True [9d?\]: yea
Khelly [5k?\]: and with b sente
Khelly [5k?\]: as long as its not TOO bad
True [9d?\]: it doesn't have to do with sente and such
True [9d?\]: its that the shape and efficiency of stones are all good for w
]
(;B[gc]
(;W[qj]C[True [9d?\]: for example
True [9d?\]: follow up on this side
])
(;W[or]
;B[pr]
;W[ns]C[True [9d?\]: large yose
])
(;W[ml]C[True [9d?\]: a bothering move
True [9d?\]: black could end up floating
]
;B[mm]
;W[kl]C[True [9d?\]: these are what make it good for w
Khelly [5k?\]: hmm
]
;B[rl]C[True [9d?\]: although
True [9d?\]: black has a good move here
]
;W[ql]
;B[rm]C[True [9d?\]: wonder if this is possible
]))
(;B[rl]C[Khelly [5k?\]: Cho's elem 4x over
Khelly [5k?\]: intermediate 1x over
]
;W[ql]
;B[rm]C[True [9d?\]: hm?
]
;W[qk]
;B[qn]
(;W[sn]
;B[sm]
;W[rk]
;B[so]
;W[sq]
;B[rs])
(;W[sp]
;B[sn])
(;W[sk])
(;W[rk]
;B[sn]
;W[sp]
;B[sl]
;W[sq]
;B[so]C[Khelly [5k?\]: yes  I can do life and death
]
;W[pr]
;B[or]
;W[rs])))
(;W[ln]
;B[nm]
;W[rq]C[True [9d?\]: you mean s8>
True [9d?\]: s8?
Khelly [5k?\]: yeah
]
;B[rl]C[True [9d?\]: ah okay
True [9d?\]: since black has this move
True [9d?\]: its not so bad for b
Khelly [5k?\]: should he take it now?
True [9d?\]: but overall i think w is a bit better 
True [9d?\]: caues white got the corner and left side
True [9d?\]: yea
True [9d?\]: cause its sente
]
;W[sp]
;B[ql]
;W[so]))))))
(;W[mq]C[True [9d?\]: its an easy way
Khelly [5k?\]: I don't think it's unfair to say good for w
Khelly [5k?\]: cause white had two stones
Khelly [5k?\]: to b's one
True [9d?\]: you mean you don't think its fair?
Khelly [5k?\]: I think
True [9d?\]: to say its good for w?
Khelly [5k?\]: It's not bad that it's good for w
]
;B[pr]C[Khelly [5k?\]: I think
Khelly [5k?\]: I forgot
Khelly [5k?\]: it
Khelly [5k?\]: actually
Khelly [5k?\]: but b ends up needing to protect again on insdie
]
;W[mo]C[Khelly [5k?\]: it went like this?
True [9d?\]: n5 is slow
]))
(;W[qo]
;B[qq]
;W[rq]
;B[qr]C[Khelly [5k?\]: like ths
Khelly [5k?\]: but
Khelly [5k?\]: I think
Khelly [5k?\]: white normally q7 or something
]
;W[pm]C[Khelly [5k?\]: and
True [9d?\]: i didn't play this one cause if black goes R3 first i normally play atari and not this
Khelly [5k?\]: the right hand side sucks
]))
(;B[qq]C[Khelly [5k?\]: here?
True [9d?\]: yea
]
;W[rq]
;B[pp]
;W[qr]))
(;B[kc]C[Khelly [5k?\]: could do this
Khelly [5k?\]: but
Khelly [5k?\]: I don't like it
Khelly [5k?\]: against high
])
(;B[ld]C[Khelly [5k?\]: likewise
Khelly [5k?\]: I don't particularly like this
Khelly [5k?\]: or know it
Khelly [5k?\]: so I won't play it
]))
(;B[qe]
;W[do]
;B[dd]
;W[oq]
;B[po]
;W[qp]
;B[qo]
;W[pp]
;B[oo]
;W[np]
(;B[pk]C[Khelly [5k?\]: why here
Khelly [5k?\]: at q9
True [9d?\]: defensive and makes potential
Khelly [5k?\]: like not
]
;W[pc]
;B[nc]
;W[nd]
;B[md]
;W[od]
;B[lc]
;W[nf]
;B[pg]
;W[me]
;B[le]
;W[lf]
;B[ke]
;W[kf]
;B[je]
;W[dq]
;B[cf]
(;W[ck])
(;W[ip]
(;B[mn]C[True [9d?\]: should be at C7
True [9d?\]: i'm quite sure
]
;W[ck]
;B[mg]
;W[mf]
;B[ec]
;W[ch]
;B[in]
;W[fh]C[Khelly [5k?\]: this
Khelly [5k?\]: I wouldn't have found
Khelly [5k?\]: after
Khelly [5k?\]: THE 4TH LINE CAP
True [9d?\]: i wouldn't say this is necessarily a move that you would "find"
True [9d?\]: just gu li's personal sense
Khelly [5k?\]: So he found it
Khelly [5k?\]: in his intuition
]
;B[ig]
;W[gf]
;B[hh]
;W[fd]C[True [9d?\]: i think that move makes more sense in regards to aji
Khelly [5k?\]: or this
True [9d?\]: err
True [9d?\]: that word
True [9d?\]: or special tesujis
Khelly [5k?\]: f16 is new to me
Khelly [5k?\]: and they do this thing
]
;B[ef]C[True [9d?\]: what color are you
]
;W[gh]C[Khelly [5k?\]: How so
Khelly [5k?\]: which move is ac ounter attack
Khelly [5k?\]: I can't tell
True [9d?\]: every move
]
;B[ge]C[True [9d?\]: the severity of counter attack
]
;W[hf]C[Khelly [5k?\]: mm
Khelly [5k?\]: did I mess something uop
Khelly [5k?\]: none
]
;B[hd]C[Khelly [5k?\]: did b paly this
True [9d?\]: i don't know
Khelly [5k?\]: I can't remeber
]
;W[hi]C[True [9d?\]: yea when i saw this sequence i thought it might be a pro game
]
;B[dl]C[Khelly [5k?\]: then
Khelly [5k?\]: B does this
Khelly [5k?\]: I'm not quite sure cause I didn't look past move 50
]
;W[cl]
;B[cq]
;W[cp]C[True [9d?\]: is it a pro game?
Khelly [5k?\]: yeah
True [9d?\]: i think they made some istakes
True [9d?\]: *mistakes
Khelly [5k?\]: I might have
Khelly [5k?\]: but
True [9d?\]: just my opinion
Khelly [5k?\]: I may have gotten the order wrong
Khelly [5k?\]: but 
Khelly [5k?\]: thsi is the board position
True [9d?\]: k
Khelly [5k?\]: gu li game
Khelly [5k?\]: he white
True [9d?\]: gu li white?
True [9d?\]: yea i can tell
Khelly [5k?\]: yup
True [9d?\]: he has a very good fuseki sense
Khelly [5k?\]: Yeah
True [9d?\]: i thought black was the one making errors
Khelly [5k?\]: I need to absorb his essence
Khelly [5k?\]: :V
True [9d?\]: like N6
True [9d?\]: i haven't seen gu li's game in a while
True [9d?\]: is this recent?
Khelly [5k?\]: 2013 recent?
True [9d?\]: ah no
Khelly [5k?\]: man
Khelly [5k?\]: go world is fast
True [9d?\]: so do you have a question on anything
Khelly [5k?\]: uhh
Khelly [5k?\]: not anymore
True [9d?\]: k
Khelly [5k?\]: Just have to
Khelly [5k?\]: get better fuseki
True [9d?\]: ._.
Khelly [5k?\]: I think that's hard
Khelly [5k?\]: without
Khelly [5k?\]: knowing joseki
Khelly [5k?\]: and I mean
Khelly [5k?\]: KNOWING joseki
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(;B[cm]
;W[mn]C[True [9d?\]: then e7
]
;B[em]C[Khelly [5k?\]: well
Khelly [5k?\]: maybe you should attend to your friend
Khelly [5k?\]: for now
True [9d?\]: so why did you want to show this to me
Khelly [5k?\]: just cause it was a game I looked at
Khelly [5k?\]: yesterday
Khelly [5k?\]: but I don't have insights
Khelly [5k?\]: into anything
True [9d?\]: well i think black should've done this
True [9d?\]: just the part that stood out to me most
Khelly [5k?\]: thanks true
Khelly [5k?\]: style
True [9d?\]: well
True [9d?\]: she can't play anymore
Khelly [5k?\]: O
Khelly [5k?\]: o-o
Khelly [5k?\]: if you want to stay...
Khelly [5k?\]: Yes no?
True [9d?\]: uh
True [9d?\]: if you have any questions
])))
(;B[pj]C[Khelly [5k?\]: ?
Khelly [5k?\]: 4 spaces?
True [9d?\]: white N6 will become a sente
Khelly [5k?\]: mm
])))