(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[600] GN[LordAn-Laerthd(B) IGS]PW[LordAn]PB[Laerthd]WR[16k]BR[17k]DT[2016-07-28]CP[ Copyright (c) PANDANET Inc. 2016 Permission to reproduce this game is given, provided proper credit is given. No warrantee, implied or explicit, is understood. Use of this game is an understanding and agreement of this notice. ]EV[Internet Go Server game: LordAn vs Laerthd]PC[IGS: igs.joyjoy.net 6969]US[Brought to you by IGS PANDANET]C[First note: your time settings are WAY too fast to play a good game. At least include some sort of byo-yomi or overtime.]RE[W+23.50]LT[]NB[12]NW[13]RR[Normal] ;B[pq]BL[593]C[ Laerthd 17k+: 154 Hi, have a good game ] ;W[qd]WL[596] ;B[cp]BL[588] ;W[dd]WL[588] ;B[qo]BL[566] ;W[cg]WL[579] ;B[od]BL[560] ;W[pc]WL[570]C[Josekipedia says it is slightly better for black] (;B[ld]BL[530] ;W[hc]WL[548] ;B[qg]BL[473] ;W[qf]WL[533]C[I just watched the beginning of a video where andrew jackson said that you should worry about opening if at around the twelfth move you are not to far behind. Here I think white has the advantage but I am not sure because his upper left corner seems a bit too extended. --- No, black is ahead because white is letting himself get stuck in a sealed in position in the corner.] (;B[pf]BL[471]C[Good.] ;W[qe]WL[529] (;B[pe]BL[459]C[Trying too hard.] (;W[pd]WL[528]C[I am not sure this is really efficient. Why not extend on the higher side? --- This is bad.] (;B[oc]BL[456] ;W[rg]WL[528] ;B[qh]BL[452] ;W[ql]WL[526]C[This move doesn't seem like a good invasion. Maybe it is because he didn't use it well but it seems awkward. --- It's not. The bottom side is much bigger.] (;B[qj]BL[445]C[This is just pushing white into the area black wants to control...] ;W[ol]WL[524] (;B[oj]BL[434]C[Black has much more potential from the bottom, so better to play there if you play locally. That said, tenuki is even better here.] ;W[ml]WL[522] ;B[mo]BL[405] (;W[rn]WL[520]C[Not sure why he played this now. He didn't like the stick so tried to make eye shapes? But why not N10? --- This is aji-keshi, as it makes black's corner stronger and doesn't significantly help white.] ;B[ro]BL[399]C[Good.] ;W[qn]WL[520] ;B[pn]BL[398] ;W[pm]WL[519] ;B[on]BL[369]C[Fine so far.] (;W[om]WL[517]C[Doesn't seem like a good move --- Nope.] (;B[nm]BL[329]C[Not good. White's not threatening anything, and this move just helps white get stronger by connecting.] ;W[nl]WL[515] ;B[mm]BL[327] ;W[lm]WL[511] (;B[ln]BL[325]C[I resisted the urge to cut because I usually cut wherever I can but here it seems that the cut was better --- Not cutting is ok too. See variation.] ;W[ip]WL[502] ;B[kp]BL[316] ;W[fp]WL[500] ;B[eq]BL[310] ;W[fq]WL[498] (;B[iq]BL[292] ;W[hq]WL[482] (;B[jp]BL[290] (;W[io]WL[482] ;B[jn]BL[286] ;W[jq]WL[481] (;B[ir]BL[285]C[Here I read wrong, I thought I could save these 2 stones. --- Actually not terrible, because you can sacrifice them to keep white from going to the right more.] ;W[jr]WL[479] ;B[hr]BL[262] ;W[gr]WL[464] ;B[kq]BL[218] ;W[is]WL[453] ;B[kr]BL[216] ;W[hs]WL[451] (;B[km]BL[214]C[This was stupid. It only made him stronger without giving me anything. --- The cut is fine at M8, but I still worry about the lower left corner.] ;W[ll]WL[449] ;B[cm]BL[192] ;W[ck]WL[447]C[This was the 3 time he played something in that area that seemed a bit loose so it was time I try to invade] ;B[ci]BL[182]C[White's move here was fine, and this may be a bit of an overplay, because the bottom left could come into trouble too.] ;W[ek]WL[445] ;B[ei]BL[180] (;W[gi]WL[443]C[bad shape, black can cut --- This is good shape. White keeps black from running out into the center easily. The fact that black can cut doesn't matter.] ;B[fj]BL[166] ;W[fl]WL[410] (;B[dl]BL[140]C[Terrible. Black has a sequence to connect (see variation) that this ruins, AND it makes white stronger.] ;W[dk]WL[405] ;B[el]BL[139]C[ditto] ;W[fk]WL[404] ;B[gj]BL[137]C[Good.] ;W[hm]WL[384] ;B[hi]BL[128] ;W[jm]WL[382]C[Not sure why he played this move] ;B[kl]BL[121]C[Then why respond?] ;W[in]WL[380] ;B[jl]BL[109] ;W[im]WL[379] ;B[gh]BL[98] ;W[fg]WL[373]C[Pointless] ;B[gg]BL[91] ;W[gf]WL[372] ;B[hf]BL[87] ;W[ge]WL[371] ;B[he]BL[86] ;W[jc]WL[369]C[Here I didn't know how to respond to that. ] (;B[eg]BL[81]C[I wanted to have a way to reduce his corner but this was probably not the way to do it. --- The 3-3 point may still work.] ;W[ff]WL[362] ;B[jd]BL[73]C[The issue with this move is that black's potential territory is open on two sides, and you can't block both at once.] ;W[kc]WL[356] ;B[kd]BL[68] ;W[mj]WL[355] ;B[mi]BL[63] ;W[li]WL[354] ;B[lh]BL[60] (;W[ni]WL[352]C[This cut looks risky] ;B[mh]BL[58] ;W[nj]WL[352] ;B[lj]BL[52] ;W[lk]WL[346] ;B[ki]BL[50] ;W[bi]WL[342] (;B[ch]BL[579] ;W[bh]WL[339] ;B[oh]BL[527] ;W[ok]WL[307] ;B[oi]BL[522] ;W[pk]WL[305] ;B[qk]BL[513] ;W[rl]WL[303] ;B[df]BL[490] ;W[fh]WL[293] ;B[fi]BL[488] ;W[eh]WL[291] (;B[cf]BL[443] ;W[bf]WL[283] (;B[gd]BL[430]C[see variation.] ;W[fd]WL[280] ;B[hd]BL[414] ;W[fc]WL[272] (;B[gc]BL[412] ;W[ic]WL[268] (;B[id]BL[410]C[I don't think the timing was right for this move --- See variation] ;W[gb]WL[267] ;B[lc]BL[406] ;W[mc]WL[266] ;B[md]BL[398] ;W[lb]WL[262] (;B[mb]BL[394] ;W[kb]WL[260] (;B[nc]BL[360] ;W[en]WL[252] ;B[dn]BL[343] ;W[dh]WL[251]C[Another big point.] ;B[dg]BL[328] ;W[bg]WL[248] ;B[ee]BL[327] ;W[fe]WL[244] (;B[ed]BL[326] ;W[ec]WL[243] ;B[cd]BL[324] ;W[de]WL[242] ;B[ce]BL[319] ;W[dc]WL[238] ;B[cc]BL[317] ;W[cb]WL[234] ;B[di]BL[285] ;W[be]WL[201] ;B[bb]BL[238] ;W[db]WL[188] ;B[eo]BL[204] ;W[fo]WL[181] (;B[em]BL[556] ;W[fn]WL[179] ;B[fm]BL[555] ;W[gm]WL[177] ;B[ep]BL[536] ;W[bl]WL[174] ;B[bm]BL[531] ;W[cl]WL[171] (;B[hk]BL[524] ;W[dm]WL[169]C[Ok so obviously I didn't lean the lesson from my last game about atari] ;B[kk]BL[499] ;W[er]WL[161] ;B[dr]BL[498] ;W[es]WL[158] ;B[ds]BL[496] ;W[cn]WL[156] (;B[do]BL[492] ;W[bn]WL[155] ;B[bo]BL[482] ;W[an]WL[152] ;B[ao]BL[481] ;W[rk]WL[150] ;B[co]BL[469]C[Not sure if I should play this here but its a free move so why not] ;W[am]WL[149] ;B[rj]BL[462] ;W[sj]WL[142] ;B[si]BL[458] ;W[sk]WL[141] ;B[rh]BL[456] ;W[sg]WL[139] ;B[pb]BL[451] ;W[qb]WL[138] ;B[pa]BL[434] ;W[qa]WL[136] ;B[ob]BL[432] (;W[rc]WL[135]C[I don't see why this was necessary] ;B[sn]BL[429] ;W[sm]WL[132] ;B[so]BL[428] ;W[gk]WL[115] ;B[hl]BL[419] ;W[cj]WL[113] ;B[il]BL[415] ;W[jo]WL[112] ;B[kn]BL[413] ;W[ko]WL[112] ;B[lo]BL[412] ;W[ma]WL[97] ;B[na]BL[406] ;W[la]WL[96] ;B[sh]BL[596] ;W[pj]WL[95] ;B[pi]BL[589] ;W[ng]WL[90] ;B[nh]BL[587] ;W[js]WL[72] ;B[rf]BL[579] ;W[re]WL[69] ;B[sf]BL[578] ;W[se]WL[69] ;B[ks]BL[571] ;W[lp]WL[67] ;B[mp]BL[569] ;W[lq]WL[66] ;B[lr]BL[568] ;W[mq]WL[65] ;B[mr]BL[567] ;W[nq]WL[64] ;B[nr]BL[566] ;W[or]WL[63] ;B[oq]BL[565] ;W[pr]WL[59] (;B[np]BL[560]C[See variation.] ;W[qq]WL[59] (;B[qp]BL[558] ;W[rq]WL[56] ;B[qr]BL[557]C[This just helps your opponent live.] ;W[qs]WL[54] ;B[sq]BL[546] ;W[sr]WL[53] ;B[sp]BL[545] ;W[rr]WL[51] ;B[rs]BL[543] ;W[ps]WL[50] ;B[ns]BL[526] ;W[ss]WL[49] ;B[]BL[428] ;W[rp]WL[40] (;B[po]BL[423]C[This was useless ] ;W[]WL[31] ;B[]BL[421] ;W[]WL[31]C[ LordAn 16k : LordAn dead @ B18 LordAn 16k : LordAn dead @ C17 Laerthd 17k+: Laerthd dead @ O13 LordAn 16k : LordAn dead @ E16 Laerthd done ]) (;B[] ;W[po] ;B[pp] ;W[oo] ;B[nn])) (;B[qr] ;W[qs] ;B[rr] ;W[rq] ;B[os] ;W[ps] ;B[rs]) (;B[rr]C[This should also kill.])) (;B[qr] ;W[qq] ;B[qp] (;W[rr] ;B[rq]) (;W[rq] ;B[ps] ;W[rr] ;B[os])) (;B[qq] ;W[qr] ;B[rq] ;W[rr] ;B[sr]C[No need to get fancy, and I think this squeeks out a tight win.])) (;W[sh] ;B[rc])) (;B[co] ;W[do] ;B[bn] ;W[dp] ;B[dq] ;W[bo] ;B[bp] ;W[am] ;B[dn] ;W[an] ;B[ao] ;W[al])) (;B[dm] ;W[ik] ;B[ij] ;W[jk] ;B[kk] ;W[jj] ;B[ji] ;W[kj] ;B[hk] ;W[il] ;B[kn])) (;B[fn] ;W[em] ;B[dm] ;W[fm] ;B[gm] ;W[gn] ;B[gl] ;W[gk] ;B[hl] ;W[hk] ;B[il] ;W[ij])) (;B[cd] ;W[ed] ;B[be] ;W[cc] ;B[bc] (;W[ae]) (;W[bb] ;B[ab] ;W[de] ;B[ce] ;W[ae] ;B[bd] ;W[ad]))) (;B[la] ;W[nb] ;B[nc] ;W[ob] ;B[pb] ;W[qb]) (;B[pb] ;W[qb] ;B[pa] ;W[nb] ;B[nc] ;W[ob] ;B[oa] ;W[ma] ;B[na] ;W[la] ;B[qa])) (;B[fb] ;W[eb] ;B[hb] (;W[fa] ;B[kb] ;W[ib] ;B[jb] ;W[ha] ;B[mb] ;W[nc] ;B[nb]) (;W[ga] ;B[kb] ;W[jb] (;B[ib] ;W[ka] ;B[mb] ;W[ia] ;B[la] ;W[ma] ;B[nc] ;W[nb]) (;B[ja] ;W[ka] ;B[ha] ;W[fa] ;B[mb] ;W[ia] ;B[ma] ;W[la])))) (;B[ee] ;W[id] ;B[ie]) (;B[gb]C[Is white alive?])) (;B[ic] ;W[ib] ;B[id] ;W[gc] ;B[lc] ;W[jb] ;B[lb])) (;B[dg] ;W[bg] ;B[dh]C[Should have done this]) (;B[dh]C[Fixes your connection at least])) (;B[dh] ;W[dg] ;B[ef] ;W[cj] ;B[di] ;W[cf]) (;B[di] ;W[dg] ;B[bg] ;W[ef])) (;B[cc]C[This still may work.])) (;W[ki] (;B[kh] ;W[ni] ;B[mh] ;W[nj]C[Isn't that better?]) (;B[nj] ;W[kh]))) (;B[dg]C[This look better because of the symmetry but you shouldn't attach to enemy stones when you attack so I don't know.]) (;B[ff] (;W[ef] ;B[fe]) (;W[eg] ;B[fe] ;W[gd] ;B[dg] ;W[df] ;B[dh] ;W[ef] ;B[cf] ;W[ce] ;B[bf] ;W[bg] ;B[ag] ;W[ah] ;B[af] ;W[bh] ;B[bi] ;W[be] ;B[ai] ;W[ae]C[Do not do that!])) (;B[jd] ;W[kc] ;B[lc] ;W[kd] ;B[ke])) (;B[gj] ;W[hj] ;B[hk] ;W[gk] (;B[hi] (;W[gh] ;B[ij]) (;W[ij] ;B[gh] ;W[ik] ;B[hl] ;W[il] ;B[hm] ;W[im] ;B[in] ;W[hn] ;B[gl] ;W[fk] ;B[gm] ;W[fn])) (;B[gl] ;W[fk] ;B[hl])) (;B[bk] ;W[bj] ;B[cj] ;W[bl] ;B[dk] ;W[cl] ;B[dl])) (;W[gj])) (;B[ll] ;W[km] ;B[jl] ;W[jm] ;B[im] ;W[kl] ;B[lk] ;W[jk] ;B[il] ;W[kk]C[Worse for black so in the end I'm glad I played the bad atari instead of the worse variation]) (;B[jl]C[Maybe just threaten to surround his group])) (;B[kq] ;W[ir] (;B[jr] ;W[iq] ;B[kr]C[Given how many empty area there is, losing sente seems like a really big deal]) (;B[jl]))) (;W[jq] ;B[ir] ;W[jr] ;B[hp] ;W[io] ;B[hr] ;W[gq] ;B[kq])) (;B[jq]C[leaves less aji for white])) (;B[ep]C[I'm not a huge fan of this move, but black has to do something here to keep white from tearing apart the corner.] ;W[fo] ;B[dn]C[I didn't want something like that because he already has a stone in J4.])) (;B[ll] (;W[kl]C[This is bad and hurts white.] ;B[lk] (;W[km] ;B[mk]) (;W[mk] ;B[km] ;W[ln] ;B[ko] ;W[lo] ;B[lp] ;W[mn] ;B[nn])) (;W[km]C[This helps the stones and doesn't hurt the other group as much. White could also abandon this stone for a time.]))) (;B[eq]C[White has no big play in the area of O6.])) (;W[nn] ;B[om] ;W[nm] ;B[no] ;W[ln]C[Would that have been better?])) (;W[mj])) (;B[eq]C[Did white gain as much with his move as black did with this?])) (;B[ol]C[This stops white from getting into the center easily, and his development is limited on both sides already. As white struggles, black can build up the bottom for free.])) (;B[rg]C[Seals off the right pretty well.]) (;B[pg]C[Still very good.])) (;W[oc])) (;B[pg]C[This simple connection gives black a good solid shape and prevents white from moving much further down the side.])) (;B[pg] ;W[pf] ;B[of] ;W[oe] ;B[ne] ;W[pe] ;B[ng]C[Maybe this would have been better] (;W[nd] ;B[nc] ;W[md] ;B[me]) (;W[oc]))) (;B[oc] ;W[pe] ;B[kc]C[It seems that this sequence is a joseki but I don"t like it]) (;B[pe] ;W[qe] ;B[pg] ;W[pf] ;B[mg]C[Another joseki. I like it even less.]))