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Post #1 Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:58 am 
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Can someone more familiar with the chess world than me shed light on something that piqued my curosity?

The recent Caissa awards in Moscow featured pair chess (man-woman versus man-woman, taking turns). I have never heard of this in chess before (and, after all, pair go is relatively recent). I was wondering whether it was an idea chess had picked up from go. Many Russian chess writers seem to make passing but invariably favourable references to go.

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Post #2 Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:25 am 
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Well how old is pair go? I have read a small tournament report on pair chess from about a 10 year old magazine.

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Post #3 Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:39 am 
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I played in the Pair Go tournament at the Canterbury European Go Congress in 1992, and there were other similar events before that.

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Post #4 Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:10 am 
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John Fairbairn wrote:
I have never heard of this in chess before (and, after all, pair go is relatively recent). I was wondering whether it was an idea chess had picked up from go. Many Russian chess writers seem to make passing but invariably favourable references to go.


In chess I am aware of "Tandem Chess" or "Bughouse Chess", which is described e. g. in wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bughouse_chess.

But this is a different concept from pair go or "Rengo" since in Tandem Chess you can - instead of doing a regular chess move - insert pieces which were captured by your team partner before.

Regarding pair chess in the sense of Rengo, I have never heard of it even if I am actively playing in a chess club.

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Post #5 Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:36 am 
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The first I heard about pair go was in the 1970s. It was played in the Kansai region in Japan with pro-am pairs, not male-female pairs. Instead of alternating players at every turn, each partner got five moves before switching. (I subscribed to a Kansai-kiin magazine at that time. :))

Rengo, OC, has a very long history. :)

We played it a little in Los Alamos, where we first called it Tandem Go, and later Random Go. ;) To make pairs roughly even, my partner was usually around 7 kyu. I enjoyed the challenge of unanticipated positions when it became my turn to play. Unfortunately, it actually caused a lot of strain on my partners. They would say to themselves, I know that that group is alive because Bill tenukied, but how does it live? (By contrast, bridge is a partnership game, and weaker partners say to themselves, my partner will carry me. :))

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Post #6 Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:29 am 
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Bill Spight wrote:
(By contrast, bridge is a partnership game, and weaker partners say to themselves, my partner will carry me. :))


Aha! Next time I'm playing pair go I will grab a handful of stones and lay them out in 4 columns...My partner can play them as needed.


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