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Post #21 Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:29 am 
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judicata wrote:
Awesome.

The result? B+3.5


Today against Takemiya in Gosei preliminaries, the same opening, the same result.

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Post #22 Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 8:51 am 
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Ooh. How does one go about getting the kifu?

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Post #23 Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 8:58 am 
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I can't save the kifu from there, but I can see the game on the Japan server of WBaduk (using android app). Maybe it will appear on http://igokisen.web.fc2.com/jp/gosei.html in the future or go4go.


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Post #24 Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 9:13 am 
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Post #25 Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 11:35 am 
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Post #26 Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 12:29 am 
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To keep an eye on this opening, here is all So Yokoku's games:

http://www.go4go.net/go/games/byplayer/316

On a related note, Wang Chenxing keeps trying her new opening:

http://www.go4go.net/go/games/sgfview/43399/5

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Post #27 Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 4:34 am 
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macelee wrote:
To keep an eye on this opening, here is all So Yokoku's games:

http://www.go4go.net/go/games/byplayer/316



Again, Judan preliminaries 2014-10-13, So beat Cho Sonjin by resignation, using this twisted black hole opening. Game record available in go4go.net

His opponents might get frustrated sooner or later.

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Post #28 Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:46 am 
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Looking at the game against Takemiya above, I find it fascinating how flexible pros usually are when they play unconventional openings. If I see a kyu player start with an opening like that, my assumption is that they'll do everything possible to end up with a single moyo in the center. But that's a bad plan: even with an opening like this, you have to be flexible. In the middle game, Black spends some time bullying a white group that's in Black's top moyo, but it arises naturally, and Black has already taken a couple of low/corner positions by that point.

I've noticed the same thing with my recent favorite opening (stones to the left and right of tengen), and the handful of professionals who've tried it out.

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Post #29 Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 3:54 am 
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http://www.go4go.net/go/games/sgfview/45575

So Yokoku wanted to use this opening again, in an important Meijin league game. But his opponent found a way to stop him doing that.

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Post #30 Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:38 am 
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Here is the game record.


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