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Post #21 Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:24 am 
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How about a Shusaku number where a link only exists for beating the next up person in an even* game?

*no komi back in the day counts as even.


I've often thought that is what it should be. But then how many who are not pros could claim one? Maybe by some circuituous route were saki was involved.


This exists, and is called a Winning Shusaku Number

Furthermore, the number is called "Pure" is the wins happened in chronological order, with each step further away from Shusaku happening later.

Everyone has one, but having one under 8 is rare for non-professionals.

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Post #22 Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:59 am 
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Sedol. He seems like a friendly guy. I love his style. Plus, he's old enough to make a chat about the current state of the pro circuit very interesting.

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Post #23 Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 1:58 am 
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Ah, that's the catch. I think it is impossible for me to get a smaller one.

Why?


Because all the people who would give me a lower one are dead.

If handicap games are allowed, then all are not dead.

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Post #24 Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 2:16 am 
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Post #25 Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 6:24 am 
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Matti wrote:
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Because all the people who would give me a lower one are dead.

If handicap games are allowed, then all are not dead.


And who would that be? Who is alive now who played an opponent of Shusaku?

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Post #26 Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:10 am 
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Since the question was "past or present", you could just play Shusaku, and therefore get 1, right?

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Post #27 Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:37 am 
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DrStraw wrote:
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Because all the people who would give me a lower one are dead.

If handicap games are allowed, then all are not dead.


And who would that be? Who is alive now who played an opponent of Shusaku?

Sorry, it seems that I misread earlier:
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I already have a Shusaku number

Me too (6), but I'd like to have a smaller one. ;-)

and I thought you were the one who wanted to have a lower number than 6.

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Post #28 Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 5:40 pm 
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I misread in exactly the same way.

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Post #29 Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 2:54 pm 
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Post #30 Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 2:59 pm 
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If this were a realistic opportunity, I'd do the research to find the least skilled pro player - maybe the pro player with the most losses. Or the player who hasn't played the game in the longest amount of time - or maybe some combination of these factors.

Since they're still a pro player, I'd surely lose the game. But maybe I could come closer to winning than against one of the top players in the world.

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Post #31 Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 3:35 pm 
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If this were a realistic opportunity, I'd do the research to find the least skilled pro player - maybe the pro player with the most losses. Or the player who hasn't played the game in the longest amount of time - or maybe some combination of these factors.

Since they're still a pro player, I'd surely lose the game. But maybe I could come closer to winning than against one of the top players in the world.

is it about winning against a pro player, or just having the opportunity to play against a particular pro you admire?

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Post #32 Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 3:41 pm 
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is it about winning against a pro player, or just having the opportunity to play against a particular pro you admire?


For me, it'd be about winning (or trying to).

If it's about being with a pro I admire, maybe I'd prefer to just go out for a drink. :-)

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Post #33 Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 3:46 pm 
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If this were a realistic opportunity, I'd do the research to find the least skilled pro player - maybe the pro player with the most losses. Or the player who hasn't played the game in the longest amount of time - or maybe some combination of these factors.

Since they're still a pro player, I'd surely lose the game. But maybe I could come closer to winning than against one of the top players in the world.

is it about winning against a pro player, or just having the opportunity to play against a particular pro you admire?


You did not read my starting post in the thread, so I will repeat it:

If you could play a game against any professional, present or past, who would it be? I am not talking about a teaching game. I mean if you could just sit down at the local club and play a friendly game with the usual casual conversation over a beer, where the result is not as important as the activity.

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Post #34 Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 3:48 pm 
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DrStraw wrote:
You did not read my starting post in the thread, so I will repeat it:

If you could play a game against any professional, present or past, who would it be? I am not talking about a teaching game. I mean if you could just sit down at the local club and play a friendly game with the usual casual conversation over a beer, where the result is not as important as the activity.


Well, I did read the starting post (I realize you mentioned that the result is not important), and mine was somewhat of an attempt at humor. Either it is not obvious, or I have a different sense of humor than you guys. :-)

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Post #35 Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:09 pm 
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Kirby wrote:
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You did not read my starting post in the thread, so I will repeat it:

If you could play a game against any professional, present or past, who would it be? I am not talking about a teaching game. I mean if you could just sit down at the local club and play a friendly game with the usual casual conversation over a beer, where the result is not as important as the activity.


Well, I did read the starting post (I realize you mentioned that the result is not important), and mine was somewhat of an attempt at humor. Either it is not obvious, or I have a different sense of humor than you guys. :-)


Well, I wasn't replying to you. Look at the quotes.

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Post #36 Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:18 pm 
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Well, I wasn't replying to you. Look at the quotes.

having read your original post, my question to Kirby was more rhetorical

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Post #37 Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:43 pm 
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I'm getting confused, now :-)

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Post #38 Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:32 pm 
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I'm getting confused, now :-)


Me too!!

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DrStraw wrote:
Well, I wasn't replying to you. Look at the quotes.
You simultaneously quoted two people: Kirby's quote embedded in xed_over's quote.
Then you said, "You did not read my starting post" -- this "you" is ambiguous: did you mean Kirby, xed_over, or both of them ?
Then you asked Kirby to look at your ambiguous quotes, which he had done before he replied. :)

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Well, I wasn't replying to you. Look at the quotes.
You simultaneously quoted two people: Kirby's quote embedded in xed_over's quote.
Then you said, "You did not read my starting post" -- this "you" is ambiguous: did you mean Kirby, xed_over, or both of them ?
Then you asked Kirby to look at your ambiguous quotes, which he had done before he replied. :)


Quit being too logical. :roll:

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