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Post #21 Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 7:32 am 
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He's playing pretty well! :)

But shouldn't he be playing mostly 9x9?


I never played 9x9 when i started, so im trying the same with him.

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Hmm.. he's too young to use the mouse. He points, daddy clicks?


I have a touch screen computer he uses to play go.

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Post #22 Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 7:51 am 
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It was fun to watch. I'm just sorry I had to leave early (My automatch finally started).

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Post #23 Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 8:30 am 
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Wonderful! 16 months and learning the rules. I played with my 2,5 years old daughter a couple of times and she looked very interested as well (see my avatar taken after her second birthday party at home).
But I never tried to teach her the rules because I found it too early. I will try this evening if she is in good mood :)

I am sure you already thought of it but I will feel bad if I don't write this: Please be very carefull that he doesn't try to swallow stones, it can be indeed dangerous.

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Post #24 Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 8:37 am 
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Wonderful! 16 months and learning the rules. I played with my 2,5 years old daughter a couple of times and she looked very interested as well (see my avatar taken after her second birthday party at home).
But I never tried to teach her the rules because I found it too early. I will try this evening if she is in good mood :)

I am sure you already thought of it but I will feel bad if I don't write this: Please be very carefull that he doesn't try to swallow stones, it can be indeed dangerous.


He doesnt eat much candy so he knows that they are not for eating.

plus i bought extra big stones so he can't :/

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Post #25 Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 12:12 pm 
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Well, inspired by the thread, I thought I'd try my two youngest.

Hayden (14 months) thought it was awesome, and after swapping stones between boards a bit tried to make the biggest pile possible on the board:

[img]http://www.topazg.com/hayden.jpg[/img]

Kylie, 32 months, I decided to see if she could handle the idea of capturing. I was pretty stunned - It took less than a minute for her to grasp it, and another minute to grasp capturing more than 1 stone by herself. She's just spend the last 25 minutes making groups and capturing them, so I thought I'd show one of the first ones she did:



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Post #26 Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 12:39 pm 
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Holy cow, this is adorable to watch. Thanks for this.

Hey, so how many handicap stones does she have to give you now?

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Post #27 Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 12:57 pm 
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Holy cow, this is adorable to watch. Thanks for this.

Hey, so how many handicap stones does she have to give you now?


Haha, as many as she wants to capture :D

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Post #28 Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 1:05 pm 
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Chew Terr wrote:
Holy cow, this is adorable to watch. Thanks for this.

Hey, so how many handicap stones does she have to give you now?


Haha, as many as she wants to capture :D


first off I'm Excited i've enspired other's to start teaching there kid's :D

and omg Adiran does the same thing sometimes
(putting a stone in a intersection like this)

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He does it "sometimes" and ive been attempting to find a way to get it to sick 100% xD

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Post #29 Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 1:37 pm 
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Wow! Given that he's only 16 months old that's pretty (no - completely) amazing. Poor guy who got wiped out by someone who can't type yet :lol:

edit: My little girl's doing the same sort of thing as topazg's (she's 33 months).

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Post #30 Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 5:48 pm 
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Game 2 should be up in 5-10 mins

Edit: here is the game



He almost lost, and i pointed out the mistake me made with the three stones and letting white get a eye earlier,
his responce "Icecream?" :lol:

Also if some of you have time, look up ECE book's (early childhood learning) as i took a corse for my psycology diploma and i have to say it has help quite a bit

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Post #31 Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 7:28 pm 
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This thread is so awesome. I don't know how to explain this in words. I think he's very strong for being so young. I'd be afraid what would happen if he got into the habit of doing one go problem per day or something.

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Post #32 Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 7:33 pm 
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This thread is so awesome. I don't know how to explain this in words. I think he's very strong for being so young. I'd be afraid what would happen if he got into the habit of doing one go problem per day or something.


Well thats what im doing at the moment, i draw out a problem on a kifu, (mostly large scale captures) and i get him to point out were to go

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Post #33 Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 7:50 pm 
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he suprises me, tried to teach a girl how to play earlier today who is 17 and it took me roughly an hour to teach her the concept of capturing, its amazing what kids can do :)..or maybe i just shouldnt teach :)

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Post #34 Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 7:56 pm 
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he suprises me, tried to teach a girl how to play earlier today who is 17 and it took me roughly an hour to teach her the concept of capturing, its amazing what kids can do :)..or maybe i just shouldnt teach :)


my wife was the same way, she just didnt understand the concept of a ladder.

its funny so see how we understand things on a higher level compaired to those who dont play.

must be the same for pro's

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Post #35 Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 9:04 pm 
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POGO wrote:
Game 2 should be up in 5-10 mins

dude! you gotta give us more than 5 mins warning :)

I was just leaving work about that time, but I would have stayed longer to watch this game. This is awesome!


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Also if some of you have time, look up ECE book's (early childhood learning) as i took a corse for my psycology diploma and i have to say it has help quite a bit


I've always believed in early childhood learning just from watching my nephews and nieces and friend's kids before I had my own, but I usually got the impression that not too many others felt the same way. I could have done better with my kids, but was still quite proud that my oldest practically taught herself to read by age 4 (though I've since heard that's not entirely unusual).

My second, not to be outdone by her older sister was quite clever, pretending to read by memorizing the story on each page :)

I'll have to look up this book. Sounds interesting.

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Post #36 Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 10:20 pm 
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Game 2 should be up in 5-10 mins

dude! you gotta give us more than 5 mins warning :)

I was just leaving work about that time, but I would have stayed longer to watch this game. This is awesome!

Will try and do so, usually i can only give 5-10 mins in advance due to bath's/dinner/when his shows are done. but i will hopfull get him in a game on kgs tomarrow.

Edit: ok got my wife to make sure he had a bath before 9 pm tomarrow so he can play before shygost's lession at 10pm est
His account is "Minipogo" and i will make the game in the old Godisscussions room for anyone wishing to watch

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Post #37 Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 10:46 am 
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This is incredible... 16 months? his first game on KGS, he played a peep! And then he jumped 1 space away from it... (It actually made me wonder if you were helping him there, but I believe you :) )

I think the fact that he's interested in it is probably the most amazing part. I don't agree with those who say that having a teaching regimen to a child is a bad thing, I think the obsessive parent thing comes in if other things are being neglected utterly (social situations, school, etc...) or if the child really dislikes the study (This doesn't mean "is not in the mood", kids won't always like to practice something, piano for example, even if they like the instrument. It's the job of the parent to differentiate between "I don't want to play", and "I don't want to play today", and teach the child to keep at something that they like, even if it gets hard at times.)

I wouldn't put too high expectations on him though, otherwise, the moment he doesn't hit a milestone that you set for him, he might quit. Expectations and goals are good, but keep them reasonable and only use short term goals, he'll be happier if he's always succeeding.

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Post #38 Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 11:02 am 
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Wow, that's quite impressive. It really shows that once you understand liberties you can go quite far. That's what holds back most of the adults I've taught.

My dad taught me chess when I was six. I think I won our second or third game (he probably wasn't trying too hard). I wish I'd learned go at that age... :(

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Post #39 Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 11:11 am 
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It really shows that once you understand liberties you can go quite far. That's what holds back most of the adults I've taught.

Please explain.

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Post #40 Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 11:40 am 
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POGO wrote:
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He's playing pretty well! :)

But shouldn't he be playing mostly 9x9?


I never played 9x9 when i started, so im trying the same with him.

Ah, ok. :)
Just remember that if he gets too tired and/or bored from a game, smaller sizes finish faster, and don't bore so much.

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I have a touch screen computer he uses to play go.

This just in: "iPad owners found to have go child prodigies at home!" ;)

This thread is really awesome. :D

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