I thought that the IGF had delegated the running of the event to the EGF.

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Any news yet whatsoever?

No

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SURPRISE !!!1!

the IGF website has some details

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Does it? Where?

I could find bridge info at the IMSA site, for instance: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Lille. ... #Programme

But nothing for go

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The WMSG-II announcement is now available at the IGF website <http://intergofed.org/index.php>, including tournament details, schedule, and a hotel list.

The rules as outlined in the attached documents indicate that players should be nominated by the Go federation to which they belong. There is no stated rule about citizenship or residency. Is there a rule that players must be either a citizen and/or a resident in the country that nominates them? Or is that up to the nominating country to decide?

Edit: the EGF have confirmed that citizenship is required.

Right. WMSG is modeled after the Olympics. While WMSG does not yet have its own charter, the Olympic Charter requires that "an athlete be a national of the country they compete for".

If the earlier stated information is right, McMahon (not all participants have the same right to win), no professionals (some of the strongest players are prohibited) and extra youth tournament (not all participants in the overall event have the same right to win the same) contradict that. The first WMSG was pretty close to the Olympics - the second is not at all.

That's mainly because of a lack of funding Robert, but they're doing their best to find resources and go ahead with it anyway. It's the same old story, and you must know that by now...

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Not at all! Swiss or KO (as examples of different tournament systems) instead of McMahon costs nothing, allowing professionals to enter costs nothing (for the event organisation) and letting young and adult players play in one tournament costs nothing!

I was under the impression that professionals just weren't interested in attending, not that they were blocked from entering.

Perhaps you've read otherwise?

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So far, I have believed Javaness2:
viewtopic.php?p=101174&sid=33da01d78ae131f1ca514ba2f7771806#p101174

Do you have the URLs for the pages or documents that specify the details?

Actually, the Olympics traditionally did not allow professional athletes to compete, and some restrictions on professional participation still exists for some sports. Also, there has been a recent addition of Youth Olympic Games in addition to the regular Olympic games.

I see. I hadn't seen that other thread earlier. I was just going off a conversation I had with our region's IGF director.

EDIT: After some clicking around the IGF site for awhile, I found this: http://intergofed.org/documents/2nd_wms ... etails.pdf

The copy I downloaded says 'Updated June 5'. On the first page, second point:
So, if I understand that correctly it seems pros are indeed excluded. Nice to see some regular updates on the IGF site by the way!

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Interesting, thank you!

Until which year were professional athletes prohibited?

According to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_Ga ... ssionalism) the restrictions on professional athletes started to be phased out during the 70s, and there has been no general IOC restriction since the 90s. Current restrictions are the result of individual policy of international federations of specific sports. Currently, there are still restrictions in boxing, wrestling and football (soccer).

The following is still unclear:
- komi
- rules of play
- which byoyomi
- initial McMahon seeding (top bar etc.)
- McMahon pairing
- tiebreakers for the seeding from McMahon to KO
- determination of tournament directors and referees
- definition of "amateur player"

Which Europeans may participate in the qualification tournament for the 2nd SportAccord World Mind Games?

75 min basic time is a slight improvement over the 1st WMSG but still much shorter than an event of that importance deserves.

It would seem idiotic to decide on the McMahon bar before you know who has entered the tournament?
I expect they will use French Rules, but I am sure that this, and all the minor details will appear soon, after having being decided in an email exchange.

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