I am yet to see an uploaded torrent of Lord of the Rings movie that does not cite Peter Jackson as the producer.

I have NOT said this.

I am not an expert for database copyright law but, assuming it is at least roughly similar to written texts copyright law, only (reasonably small) PARTS may be cited.

"would be" under which law?

Law of nature.

The copyright law here is not a scientific yes/no for every situation. You need to test in court if there is no precedent case available. I don't know what its like where you live.

But if your analogy is referencing fair use for books, it is wrong, as fair use only covers a tiny tiny part of the cited book. The only exception is educational use which is also very narrow situation.

So you don't want people to copy your work, but you shamelessly and INTEGRALLY copy that of others?
I'm sorry, but as there are no specific laws concerning databases, there are also no specific laws concerning game records. I can't see a reason you should treat them any differently.

I'm sorry, but you may want to actually do even a single bit of research before making a strong claim...a simple google search will turn up millions of references to this.

I shall rephrase: Legally, there is no reason to consider this database to deserve better protection than the game records it contains.

Nagano: what exactly is my property right that is violated when someone compromises my computer?

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The technical term is 'tresspass to chattel'. It is a tort.

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Yeah, but you can't go by existing law when evaluating a strict libertarian position.

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What property right is violated when someone compromises my car? Or my face, for that matter? I'm not going to disagree that it's hard to evaluate a strict libertarian position, but you can't ask for types of property right violations and then complain when someone offers you one!

I do not care about copyright law. I am simply commenting on what I personally find moral - or in this case, immoral. I will not try to claim that my view is anything more than my personal opinion.

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What specifically do you want to know? I've already explained what is considered property and what is not, and why.

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His basic point is that you set the computer to accept data, which is akin to putting a book on display. Someone reads it, done is done, kind of. If you read it really to the letter and assume pure greed (without malicious intent as such), there's not much of an argument to be made if you want to be really anal about it.
The presence of a firewall or a password lock or whatever would obviously be a different matter entirely, that's a very clear statement of "you are not allowed to do this".

I want people to respect the law as much as I do. It is a fundament of human civilisation that all live under law instead of anarchy. In particular, I want people to respect copyright law applied to my work as much as I respect it applied to everybody else's work.



Applying the valid (copyright) law is not shamelessly but civilised.



As said before, fair use (citation of reasonably small parts) allows knowledge of mankind to evolve. Distinguish between fair use of parts and paste and copy of whole works!

In Germany, there is also the Grundrecht (basic right) auf (to) Vertraulichkeit (confidentiality) und Integrität (integrity) informationstechnischer (informational-technical) Systeme, which pretty recently the federal constitutional court has derived from basic constitutional rights of the individual citizen.

Security means help but are not required.

You sure got that right. In a different forum, ten percent of a super drama queen's posts were tear-streaked departure speeches, which departure would then last about a day or at most two. Here at L19 (no offense John) the prima donna found something more interesting to do with his life, and capitalized on the opportunity to wreak a grand dramatic finale. I don't doubt his expertise, nor the quality of his contributions, but I've been around the drama block a few times and this is pretty typical.

Moderators earn their pay, preventing the disgruntled superstar from spam-trashing the forum for weeks on end, which I've also seen happen, regrettably.

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First, check the facts. John Fairbairn has added far more value to the Go community, both through his translations, books and the GoGoD Encyclopaedia than any of the kiddie critics who have annoyed him. In addition, he has spent considerable time and effort trying to improve the knowledge and debate on this and other fora, all for the love of Go. What has annoyed him more than anything is that it seems to be accepted by growing numbers of posters here that piracy, of books, programs and databases (in effect, theft of other people's work) is the norm. We who do the work should just allow it to happen and find some other way to recoup our costs. But the book market is so minimal at the best of times that there will be no physical books produced to steal; the database market is even smaller and our only hope is that we get enough to cover costs. Both John and I have subsidised the business for almost 20 years, because we both love the game.

So some sarcastic critic will cue the violins and call us drama queens appealing for sympathy. I need none of it; what I would like to see is the generality of the Go playing community, the ones I see at the US and European Congresses, making it plain that theft and piracy is not acceptable in any form and definitely should not be encouraged on this forum.

Best wishes.

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