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Post #41 Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 1:21 pm 
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bayu wrote:
Is the ordering 1 to 16 by chance, according to strength or alphabet (if it is called that way, anyway)?


I thought it was seeds at first... but hard to tell. Here are October positions from Nihon Kiin insei.

http://www.nihonkiin.or.jp/player/insei/joretu/

So top insei is 14
Second is 2
Third is 1
Fourth is 12

So maybe just a jumble up.

4 of Antti's opponents will be half his age.

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Post #42 Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 3:17 pm 
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oren wrote:
bayu wrote:
Is the ordering 1 to 16 by chance, according to strength or alphabet (if it is called that way, anyway)?


I thought it was seeds at first... but hard to tell. Here are October positions from Nihon Kiin insei.

http://www.nihonkiin.or.jp/player/insei/joretu/

So top insei is 14
Second is 2
Third is 1
Fourth is 12

So maybe just a jumble up.

4 of Antti's opponents will be half his age.

I am pretty sure the ordering for the tournament chart is by a drawing at the beginning.

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I am very excited by this and will follow it more closely than the rugby World cup.
It is kind of sad that there is no way to see the games (let alone in live), but this is a bit much to ask.

2-0 is a good start but of course it is only the beginning. I guess the future pros will have 1 or 2 defeats at the end of the tournament.

Exploring a little bit I found that Nicola Mitic participated in the preliminary tournament and was one win away from qualifying for the main tournament:
http://www.nihonkiin.or.jp/player/saiyo ... _godo.html

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It's interesting to note that Shibano Toramanu, recently promoted to 2p dan, who last year struck me with the rate of his progress since promotion to 1p, has finally made it to two wins away from entering the Meijin League, after defeating Seto Taiki 7p, (he next plays Ichiriki 7p the winner of which plays Cho/Hane 9p,), two wins away from entering the Tengen tournament, and one win away from entering the Gosei tournament, defeating Fujita Akhiko 4d. Well done :bow: :salute: :scratch: !

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If anyone is following this, Antti is now sitting at 3/4 with a loss against a non-insei player.

There are now two insei at 4/4 and 3 players at 3/4 including Antti and his non-insei opponent. Remind that the players with the best two scores become pros.
Three players have postponed one or two games but they have two defeats each.

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Any updates? No news is probably bad news...

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https://www.nihonkiin.or.jp/player/saiy ... onsen.html

After 6 games, Antti is now 4-2. Three players are 5-1 (#1, #8, #14). Antti played and lost to #14, he plays #8 next weekend (Oct 25), and #1 in the final round.

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Any updates? No news is probably bad news...


Tormanen, Wins against 豊田 裕仁 (#13, 13th Insei coincidentally who is 16yrs old), and loses against 栗田 佳樹 (#14, number one Insei at 16 years old).

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      白</td>
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  <tr class="bg">
    <td rowspan="2" class="first-child">8</td>
    <td rowspan="2">10/25</td>
    <td>9<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>8<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>7<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>6<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>16<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>4<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>3<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>2<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>1<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>15<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>14<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>13<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>12<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>11<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>10<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td class="last-child">5<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
  </tr>
  <tr class="bg">
    <td class="first-child">&nbsp;</td>
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  <tr>
    <td rowspan="2" class="first-child">9</td>
    <td rowspan="2">10/31</td>
    <td>10<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>9<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>8<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>7<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>6<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>5<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>4<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>3<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>2<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>1<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>15<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>14<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>16<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>12<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>11<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td class="last-child">13<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
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    <td class="first-child">&nbsp;</td>
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  <tr class="bg">
    <td rowspan="2" class="first-child">10</td>
    <td rowspan="2">11/1</td>
    <td>11<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>10<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>9<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>8<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>7<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>16<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>5<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>4<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>3<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>2<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>1<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>15<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>14<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>13<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>12<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td class="last-child">6<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
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  <tr>
    <td rowspan="2" class="first-child">11</td>
    <td rowspan="2">11/7</td>
    <td>12<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>11<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>10<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>9<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>8<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>7<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>6<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>5<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>4<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>3<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>2<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>1<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>15<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>16<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>13<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td class="last-child">14<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
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  <tr class="bg">
    <td rowspan="2" class="first-child">12</td>
    <td rowspan="2">11/8</td>
    <td>13<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>12<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>11<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>10<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>9<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>8<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>16<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>6<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>5<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>4<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>3<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>2<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>1<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>15<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>14<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td class="last-child">7<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
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    <td rowspan="2" class="first-child">13</td>
    <td rowspan="2">11/14</td>
    <td>14<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>13<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>12<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>11<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>10<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>9<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>8<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>7<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>6<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>5<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>4<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>3<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>2<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>1<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>16<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td class="last-child">15<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
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  <tr class="bg">
    <td rowspan="2" class="first-child">14</td>
    <td rowspan="2">11/15</td>
    <td>15<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>14<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>13<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>12<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>11<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>10<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>9<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>16<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>7<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>6<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>5<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>4<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>3<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>2<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>1<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td class="last-child">8<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
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  <tr class="bg">
    <td class="first-child">&nbsp;</td>
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  <tr>
    <td rowspan="2" class="first-child">15</td>
    <td rowspan="2">11/21</td>
    <td>16<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>15<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>14<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>13<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>12<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>11<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>10<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>9<br class="first-child last-child empty">黒</td>
    <td>8<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>7<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>6<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>5<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>4<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>3<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td>2<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
    <td class="last-child">1<br class="first-child last-child empty">
      白</td>
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    <td class="first-child">&nbsp;</td>
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    <td colspan="2" class="first-child">勝数</td>
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<p class="attention mb0 last-child"><span class="first-child last-child">※</span>枠内の数字は対局相手の番号です。</p>
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edit: seems Yoyoma got there first :) seems to be 上野 (#1) next weekend, she's the third ranked Insei, 13 years old, and 桒原 (#8 fifth ranked Insei, 16 years), last round. Some tough competition.

I just came to the realisation that the next year is the last #12 can remain as an insei. He's currently at 3 wins 3 losses. Must be a lot of pressure to peform.

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Antti keeps his possibilities open with a very nice weekend, 2 victories including one against #1, the 3rd-ranked insei. He is now 6/8.

One player is at 7/8 (#14, first-ranked insei) and 4 players are at 6/8 including Antti (#1, #2, #4). Seven games remain. The opponents of Antti will be numbers #2-#8 by increasing order.

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Sadly Antti went 0/2 this weekend, 6/10 in total. This is very bad news for his chances : with 3 players at 8/10 and 3 at 7/10, he would need a pretty unlikely turn of events as well as going 5/5 in the remaining games to come back from this. But who knows?

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If anyone is still following this, Antti went 0/2 again last weekend and is definitely out of the race. He'll be fighting to get a better-than-average total score. That must have been a nice ride anyway.

Interestingly, no insei is particularly ahead of the field. One of them is 10/12 and three are 9/12, including an non-insei outsider.

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I am - thanks for the updates.

It can be a fine line between success and failure, so major respect to Antti for his dedication.

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Two victories this weekend with one last game left. No hope for Antti but he will have a very respectable result.

The situation at the top is pretty chaotic. Only three players have 3 defeats (#1, #2 and #16). #1 and #16 play together while #2 plays the relatively weaker #15, so we could expect our two new pros to be among them. Using my very limited Japanese, I believe #1 is Aisakimi Ueno (14-year-old female insei), #2 is Yuichi Hirose (14-year-old male insei), and #16 is Daihyo Takuto (19-year-old male outsider).

(Aisakimi looks like a strange surname - my dictionnary didn't mention it as a name, so it's probably wrong)

An interesting situation would arise if #2 loses with two 16-year-old insei having 4 defeats ready to jump to his throat.

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It's probably pronounced Ueno Asami.

She made some news beating a pro in a tournament open to young pros and insei.

http://www.asahi.com/articles/photo/AS2 ... 02767.html

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Antti got 8 wins from 15 and took 9th place in the tournament.

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Post #56 Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 8:25 am 
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Some more information (still from https://www.nihonkiin.or.jp/player/saiy ... onsen.html)

Yuichi Hirose (14-year-old male insei) and Daihyo Takuto (19-year-old male outsider) make it to pro status with a 12/3 score.
Kurita Keiki (16-year-old male insei) and Asami Ueno (13-year-old female insei) come close with 4 defeats.

As mentioned before, Antti ends up with an 8/7 score after a defeat on the last day.

Side question: I believe the Nihon Ki'in have two open professional qualification tournament for three new pros per year (2 autumn + 1 summer) and a women's tournament for an additional pro per year. I am excluding the Nagoya and the Kansai branches here. I am wondering whether it is a common occurence for a woman to qualify through an open tournament, as Asami Ueno almost did this year, or if we have reasons to believe she is the future Rui Naiwei.

Sorry if I got my facts wrong - my info comes from Sensei's library and http://gooften.net/2012/03/29/nihon-ki- ... s-present/.

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Post #57 Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 3:49 am 
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Antti will start as 1 dan professional in next April.


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Post #58 Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 4:22 am 
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How so? I thought he didn't qualify through the tournament. Did he get some special promotion?

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Post #59 Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:28 am 
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It turns out his result was good enough to qualify him due to his status as a foreign national.

http://mainichi.jp/articles/20151208/k0 ... 40/037000c

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On December 7, the Japan Go Association announced the Finnish-born Antti Törmänen (26) as a professional go player. Törmänen will debut as a professional player on April 1 next year. He is the first western-born to become professional in Japan in 18 years, following the late Hans Pietsch. Törmänen became insei, a student aiming for professional, in fall 2011. He achieved a winning ratio exceeding 50% in the professional exam this year, earning employment as a professional. In the future he hopes to spread knowledge of go in foreign countries outside the “go belt” (Japan, Korea, China,Taiwan)


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Post #60 Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 9:05 am 
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Really pleased that he got this certification, couldn't have happened to a nicer player.

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