Life In 19x19 :: Go by email

Problem is, we can't have software which installs anything to the Windows or Program Files directories, and there is also a temperamental web filter which I.T. turn on. DGS is probably the best way.

If people post tsumego, or a board position, whatever, on this site, what software are they using? Is it just a printscreen of something? Like here: http://www.lifein19x19.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=171502#p171502

Problem is, we can't have software which installs anything to the Windows or Program Files directories, and there is also a temperamental web filter which I.T. turn on. DGS is probably the best way.

If people post tsumego, or a board position, whatever, on this site, what software are they using? Is it just a printscreen of something? Like here: http://www.lifein19x19.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=171502#p171502

You can click on the "show diagram code" and you'll see the code I'm using to write this...

Jujube wrote:

It sounds like you are trying to do this from work. There is a reason that it is blocked - they don't want you playing go on company time.

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You can click on the "show diagram code" and you'll see the code I'm using to write this...

Ah! That looks interesting.

Online Go looks pretty nice. I didn't realise it was turn-based. Thought it was real-time controls.

DGS (http://www.dragongoserver.net/) They can notify you by email when your opponent moves. I don't know if those emails can include a board picture

DGS has a rather big population but all games take ages to end. OGS has a smaller population but games usually are faster...

DGS has a rather big population but all games take ages to end.

It sounds like you are trying to do this from work. There is a reason that it is blocked - they don't want you playing go on company time.

DrStraw wrote:

It sounds like you are trying to do this from work. There is a reason that it is blocked - they don't want you playing go on company time.

Well while that is true I doubt that most people wasting company time on other stuff need installed software. I rather think that the "no install" rule is worry about nasties getting in along with the installed stuff since they wouldn't be checking the installs.

I agree with that. And for that reason I will not say much more than their rule "no installing in Windows or Programs folder" is based on their assumption (probably justified) as to user ignorance. Security based on ignorance isn't unusual at all and I can remember it taking me two years to get Tech Support where I worked to plug a loophole with a security system that had been brought in "But Mike, just because YOU know how to get around that doesn't mean anybody else here does. We trust you."

Except -- you are making an assumption about what is necessary to run a program on a computer (an assumption about where it has to be). In a way this "ignorance" is rather common, sort of a common blind spot.

Interestingly enough, they don't let you access the command prompt but they do let you write and run a batch script. That's probably unintentional. They didn't turn off regedit until a year ago.

Author:	Jujube [ Wed Aug 20, 2014 3:04 am ]
Post subject:	Go by email
I'm looking for a way to play correspondence games via email in an easy way such that I can receive an image, put the image in a site somewhere, play a move, export the image, and attach it to a reply to the email in an easy way. This is in no way related to procrastinating at work

Author:	Uberdude [ Wed Aug 20, 2014 3:12 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Go by email
That sounds a very laborious process! How do you make the move? Image editing? Are you aware of browser-based correspondence Go servers like OGS (http://www.online-go.com) or DGS (http://www.dragongoserver.net/)? They can notify you by email when your opponent moves. I don't know if those emails can include a board picture, but would typically have a link to the page with the game and you go there and play. Or do you really want to only use an email client and not a web browser (but you talk about "image in a site")?

Author:	Jujube [ Wed Aug 20, 2014 4:07 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Go by email
Problem is, we can't have software which installs anything to the Windows or Program Files directories, and there is also a temperamental web filter which I.T. turn on. DGS is probably the best way. If people post tsumego, or a board position, whatever, on this site, what software are they using? Is it just a printscreen of something? Like here: http://www.lifein19x19.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=171502#p171502

Author:	alejo [ Wed Aug 20, 2014 4:15 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Go by email
Jujube wrote: Problem is, we can't have software which installs anything to the Windows or Program Files directories, and there is also a temperamental web filter which I.T. turn on. DGS is probably the best way. Online go server, GoShrine and Dragon go server are work-friendly. HTML-based, you don't need to install anything. DGS has a rather big population but all games take ages to end. OGS has a smaller population but games usually are faster... Jujube wrote: If people post tsumego, or a board position, whatever, on this site, what software are they using? Is it just a printscreen of something? Like here: http://www.lifein19x19.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=171502#p171502 You can click on the "show diagram code" and you'll see the code I'm using to write this... Click Here To Show Diagram Code `[go]$$B $$ --------------------- $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . $$ \| . . O X . . . . . . $$ \| . . O X . . . . . , $$ \| . O X 2 3 . . . . . $$ \| . O X 4 8 9 . . . . $$ \| . . X 6 5 . . . . . $$ \| . . . 7 . . . . . . $$ \| . . . . . . . . . .[/go]` At the introductions section, you have instructions on how to make diagrams and how to post SGF files

Author:	EdLee [ Wed Aug 20, 2014 4:16 am ]
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Jujube wrote: If people post tsumego, or a board position, whatever, on this site, what software are they using? Is it just a printscreen of something? Like here: http://www.lifein19x19.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=171502#p171502 Hi Jujube, for diagrams, I just edit the text by hand. In a browser. Completely low-tech. For SGF, I use a Go editor elsewhere, then copy and paste the SGF text to a thread here.

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Author:	DrStraw [ Wed Aug 20, 2014 4:17 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Go by email
Jujube wrote: Problem is, we can't have software which installs anything to the Windows or Program Files directories, and there is also a temperamental web filter which I.T. turn on. DGS is probably the best way. If people post tsumego, or a board position, whatever, on this site, what software are they using? Is it just a printscreen of something? Like here: http://www.lifein19x19.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=171502#p171502 It sounds like you are trying to do this from work. There is a reason that it is blocked - they don't want you playing go on company time.

Author:	Jujube [ Wed Aug 20, 2014 4:56 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Go by email
Quote: You can click on the "show diagram code" and you'll see the code I'm using to write this... Ah! That looks interesting. Online Go looks pretty nice. I didn't realise it was turn-based. Thought it was real-time controls.

Author:	Jujube [ Wed Aug 20, 2014 4:57 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Go by email
DrStraw wrote: Jujube wrote: Problem is, we can't have software which installs anything to the Windows or Program Files directories, and there is also a temperamental web filter which I.T. turn on. DGS is probably the best way. If people post tsumego, or a board position, whatever, on this site, what software are they using? Is it just a printscreen of something? Like here: http://www.lifein19x19.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=171502#p171502 It sounds like you are trying to do this from work. There is a reason that it is blocked - they don't want you playing go on company time. I promise to only play at lunch for a maximum of 30 minutes, or between 17:01 and 08:59 hrs on work computers.

Author:	Uberdude [ Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:08 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Go by email
Jujube wrote: Quote: You can click on the "show diagram code" and you'll see the code I'm using to write this... Ah! That looks interesting. Online Go looks pretty nice. I didn't realise it was turn-based. Thought it was real-time controls. The old OGS (on which I played) was only turn-based. The new one has real-time as well. (In fact they aren't different game types, just different time controls. So you can play a turn-based day per move game real-time for a bit if your opponent is online at the same time as you).

Author:	jug [ Wed Aug 20, 2014 10:58 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Go by email
Uberdude wrote: DGS (http://www.dragongoserver.net/) They can notify you by email when your opponent moves. I don't know if those emails can include a board picture The mail-notification on DGS can include an ASCII-version of the current board, if the user wants to include the board in the notification. However, playing must be done via the browser-based web-interface. If you have a smart-phone, there are also apps for various Go-servers (including DGS or OGS (I guess)). Then you also need not to use your employers resources alejo wrote: DGS has a rather big population but all games take ages to end. OGS has a smaller population but games usually are faster... The games on DGS take as short or long time as you configure them to be. You just have to check the time-settings when you join a game or setup a game-offer, if it's to your liking regarding speed. It's just that the defaults for time-settings are longer than the usual game-offers on OGS, but that can be changed of course.

Author:	DrStraw [ Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:09 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Go by email
alejo wrote: DGS has a rather big population but all games take ages to end. Games against my favorite opponents usually take about 10 days, sometimes less. That seems pretty fast for turn-based. So it really depends on who is playing how and how long they want the game to last.

Author:	swalther [ Thu Aug 21, 2014 2:43 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Go by email
Your are looking for this site, right? http://go.davepeck.org/ Just enter mail addresses of participating players, get a link to your game, and a notification mail when your partner plays a move...

Author:	Mike Novack [ Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:01 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Go by email
DrStraw wrote: It sounds like you are trying to do this from work. There is a reason that it is blocked - they don't want you playing go on company time. Well while that is true I doubt that most people wasting company time on other stuff need installed software. I rather think that the "no install" rule is worry about nasties getting in along with the installed stuff since they wouldn't be checking the installs. I agree with that. And for that reason I will not say much more than their rule "no installing in Windows or Programs folder" is based on their assumption (probably justified) as to user ignorance. Security based on ignorance isn't unusual at all and I can remember it taking me two years to get Tech Support where I worked to plug a loophole with a security system that had been brought in "But Mike, just because YOU know how to get around that doesn't mean anybody else here does. We trust you." Except -- you are making an assumption about what is necessary to run a program on a computer (an assumption about where it has to be). In a way this "ignorance" is rather common, sort of a common blind spot.

Author:	Jujube [ Thu Aug 21, 2014 11:04 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Go by email
Mike Novack wrote: DrStraw wrote: It sounds like you are trying to do this from work. There is a reason that it is blocked - they don't want you playing go on company time. Well while that is true I doubt that most people wasting company time on other stuff need installed software. I rather think that the "no install" rule is worry about nasties getting in along with the installed stuff since they wouldn't be checking the installs. I agree with that. And for that reason I will not say much more than their rule "no installing in Windows or Programs folder" is based on their assumption (probably justified) as to user ignorance. Security based on ignorance isn't unusual at all and I can remember it taking me two years to get Tech Support where I worked to plug a loophole with a security system that had been brought in "But Mike, just because YOU know how to get around that doesn't mean anybody else here does. We trust you." Except -- you are making an assumption about what is necessary to run a program on a computer (an assumption about where it has to be). In a way this "ignorance" is rather common, sort of a common blind spot. Interestingly enough, they don't let you access the command prompt but they do let you write and run a batch script. That's probably unintentional. They didn't turn off regedit until a year ago. I'll give the online-go.com site a try. Seems the best one for browser-based. The email thing was mostly to annoy someone who is reluctant to learn.

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Author:	Mike Novack [ Thu Aug 21, 2014 2:54 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Go by email
Jujube wrote: Interestingly enough, they don't let you access the command prompt but they do let you write and run a batch script. That's probably unintentional. They didn't turn off regedit until a year ago. Uh --- you didn't say what operating system, but running a program located elsewhere than in the programs directory would not necessarily require use of the command line.