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Author: | Joaz Banbeck [ Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:01 am ] |
Post subject: | When to get paranoid |
Recently, Hyperpape had a sig that read "When you think your opponent has made a mistake, that's when you should be the most cautious." That has been sticking in my mind because it cost me an important game that I should have won back in the Wash DC Congress. Another proverb along the same lines - I forget where I heard it - is: Keep an eye on your group any time it is down to 3 liberties or half of its liberties. What is your rule of thumb for when to get paranoid about your group? |
Author: | Bonobo [ Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:25 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: When to get paranoid |
I’m paranoid all the time ![]() |
Author: | Tooveli [ Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:43 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: When to get paranoid |
Hyperpape's sig seems like the best answer to me. I've had many tournament games with the internal monologue: Great! I guess this game will be easier than I thought. That move does almost nothing! ... ... Oh. |
Author: | SoDesuNe [ Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:49 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: When to get paranoid |
For me the reverse is actually true. Nah, I'll live there, it's safe, I'm connected, I've plenty of room, I can always move into the center etc... Often I'm right and the result sucks due to the high amount of forcing moves my opponent gets. Sometimes I just resign a couple of moves later. Nowadays, I try to tell me, it's better to lose because of a "slow" Honte move than because of a dead dragon. |
Author: | hailthorn011 [ Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:49 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: When to get paranoid |
"Three eyes are better than two, because one of them is a lie." |
Author: | jts [ Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:17 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: When to get paranoid |
I get continually confused between "that move is pointless" and "that move is gote". So I ignore the horrible, point losing sente move. It's pretty embarrassing. (the unifying idea being the "what a stupid move" emotion.) |
Author: | Fedya [ Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:49 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: When to get paranoid |
[mumble grumble] thickness [expletives deleted] |
Author: | SmoothOper [ Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:50 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: When to get paranoid |
I have been getting some mileage out of waiting to punish my opponents mistakes. It is so tempting to call them out immediately, especially in Joseki/Fuseki variations, but most the time they don't even know it was a mistake, so there is no rush. If at some point in time later they smarten up and try to correct, it doesn't matter they have already lost tempo. |
Author: | Splatted [ Fri Sep 07, 2012 2:51 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: When to get paranoid |
Fedya wrote: [mumble grumble] thickness [expletives deleted] Looks like the mods are out to get you! ![]() |
Author: | Fedya [ Sun Sep 09, 2012 8:03 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: When to get paranoid |
Actually, that's all my original post. Thickness makes me paranoid because stronger players keep saying it's a good thing, yet I can't recall ever getting thickness and having it work out well for me, no matter what I try. |
Author: | hyperpape [ Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:42 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: When to get paranoid |
I just remembered a particular thing that fell under my signature. In OGS games, you can define conditional moves. Sometimes, I start to set a conditional move for a branch that I don't think my opponent should play. And often, those are the branches I shouldn't set. Because if the move is as bad as I think it is, then my opponent probably wouldn't play it. If they did play it, the odds are good that I missed something. |
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