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Author: | gostudent [ Thu Dec 18, 2014 7:50 pm ] |
Post subject: | On responding to cutting one-space jump |
In a recent game, I played against a player who really loves to cut one-space jump from the third line. This caught me off guard, and I don't think I responded well. The first case is: and so B1 becomes connected to the left side, significantly removing while influence. Maybe the real mistake is that the pincer 2 is wrong -- I am not sure. In the second example, I live after entering 3-3, but white get a wall which I want to avoid initially by the one-space jump. Any suggestion on what I should have done? Thanks. |
Author: | EdLee [ Thu Dec 18, 2014 8:53 pm ] |
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Hi GoStudent, In your first diagram, if you were White, and B forced you to get your ponnuki in sente, the result is very good for White. When you jumped to ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Quote: and so B1 becomes connected to the left side, significantly removing while influence. No. You have some big misunderstanding about influence, the situation, and the value of W's ponnuki in sente. This result was very good for ![]() Quote: Maybe the real mistake is that the pincer 2 is wrong -- I am not sure. No, again. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() In your second diagram, if you were ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Instead of ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() __________ ( Local time: Fri Dec 19, 2014. 11:53 am ) |
Author: | gostudent [ Wed Dec 31, 2014 10:27 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: On responding to cutting one-space jump |
Thank you for the explanation! I have one follow-up question. If black wants to be connected, is giving white the ponnuki the only choice? The following sequence doesn't work, for example. |
Author: | EdLee [ Thu Jan 01, 2015 12:05 am ] |
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gostudent wrote: The following sequence doesn't work, for example. It doesn't work because ![]() resulting in this disaster broken shape for Black: ( See also Toothpaste. ) Can you find the correct move (only move) for ![]() |
Author: | gostudent [ Thu Jan 01, 2015 4:47 pm ] |
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EdLee wrote: gostudent wrote: The following sequence doesn't work, for example. It doesn't work because ![]() resulting in this disaster broken shape for Black: ( See also Toothpaste. ) Can you find the correct move (only move) for ![]() Thanks. I think more about it, and a better sequence is: There is still a cut point at a. If black cannot handle the cut, B1 would still fail to connect the two black stones. |
Author: | EdLee [ Thu Jan 01, 2015 5:12 pm ] |
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gostudent wrote:
There is still a cut point at a. If black cannot handle the cut, B1 would still fail to connect the two black stones.
Notice the broken shapes in the following two diagrams: |
Author: | EdLee [ Thu Jan 01, 2015 6:19 pm ] |
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Hi GoStudent, to recap: If W does not want B to connect, W has ![]() (Prove to your satisfaction this is true.) Instead, if W chooses to jump to ![]() ![]() now W has 2 choices (among other options):
These are the local considerations. For global consequences, we must look at the specific whole board situation. |
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