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Offline Javaness
 Post subject: Re: Korean Prime Minister's Cup
Post #41 Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:56 pm 
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I was pretty surprised to see it as class B as well - it doesn't meet the minimum time requirement. Well, I guess it's the rating commission's perogative to make exceptions, and I gain more GoR this way, so it must be fair.
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Offline Liisa
 Post subject: Re: Korean Prime Minister's Cup
Post #42 Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 6:32 pm 
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Wow, check out Artem's performance! His only two losses were against Korea and Japan, but he won against Jiang Lie (US, 7d), Li Ryan (CA, 5d) and Liu Guyu (AU, 7d). IMO, even more impressive than Jiang Lie's 6 wins - Jiang Lie did not face ANY 7d players and lost to Artem...


I checked this with my Asparagus, and indeed it seems that you are right that Artem's performance was better than Jie Liang. His performance rating was about 50 better than Jie's. With one win less, this is definitely meaningful difference.

Underlying problem was that pairs were looked not just from same McMahon group, but also they tried to find pairs where soses were as close as possible. In practice this means that because Jie was paired downwards on round three Jie got lowest SOS and therefore Jie was paired on rounds 4, 5 and 6 one group downwards. This certainly did not help Jie's SOS. In practice Jie, played the tournament like Jie had lost on round 2. Even in round 7 where there was even number of players in highest group, Jie got weakest possible opponent.

I have no idea why the pimp chose to pair this way, but this method is way off from my pimp-book.
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Offline gaius
 Post subject: Re: Korean Prime Minister's Cup
Post #43 Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 2:15 am 
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I have no idea why the pimp chose to pair this way, but this method is way off from my pimp-book.

Wait. The "pimp"? That is an, uuhm, interesting word for a tournament organiser!

Also, where can I buy this "pimp-book" you mention? You see... I know this guy... he could give you a real good price... :cool:

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Offline Stefany93
 Post subject: Re: Korean Prime Minister's Cup
Post #44 Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:01 am 
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Artem won! I am starting to get scared of that guy. Seems he has a huge potential.

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Offline LovroKlc
 Post subject: Re: Korean Prime Minister's Cup
Post #45 Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 11:59 am 
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Artem won! I am starting to get scared of that guy. Seems he has a huge potential.



and what exactly did he win. in most tournament, people who have 5/7 dont really win the title...

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Offline tj86430
 Post subject: Re: Korean Prime Minister's Cup
Post #46 Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:27 pm 
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Liisa wrote:
I have no idea why the pimp chose to pair this way, but this method is way off from my pimp-book.

Wait. The "pimp"? That is an, uuhm, interesting word for a tournament organiser!

Also, where can I buy this "pimp-book" you mention? You see... I know this guy... he could give you a real good price... :cool:

I believe the choice of word stems from the fact that both verbs "to pimp" and "to pair" translate to the same word ("parittaa") in Finnish.

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Offline Javaness
 Post subject: Re: Korean Prime Minister's Cup
Post #47 Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:58 pm 
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snif Class C again :'(
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Offline Stefany93
 Post subject: Re: Korean Prime Minister's Cup
Post #48 Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:26 am 
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LovroKlc wrote:
Stefany93 wrote:
Artem won! I am starting to get scared of that guy. Seems he has a huge potential.



and what exactly did he win. in most tournament, people who have 5/7 dont really win the title...



Didn't Artem win this tournament, or maybe I messed up? :-?

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Offline topazg
 Post subject: Re: Korean Prime Minister's Cup
Post #49 Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:48 am 
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Didn't Artem win this tournament, or maybe I messed up? :-?


He won 5th place :)
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Offline lorill
 Post subject: Re: Korean Prime Minister's Cup
Post #50 Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:48 am 
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You messed up, I fear : http://valkonen.kapsi.fi/parsa.php?touid=W101023A
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Offline hyperpape
 Post subject: Re: Korean Prime Minister's Cup
Post #51 Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 6:55 am 
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People were saying he had the best performance of players outside of CJK, that's probably what you were thinking of, Stefany93. Jie Liang even placed higher than him, but lost the head to head, and didn't play anyone in the top 3.

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Offline Stefany93
 Post subject: Re: Korean Prime Minister's Cup
Post #52 Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:24 am 
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Oh what an idiot I am. Thanks guys.

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