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| Author: | Gérard TAILLE [ Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | 7x7 best play |
I took a look at the 7x7 go board and the link https://senseis.xmp.net/?7x7BestPlay I undestood that the ideal komi is 9. After the sequence I do not see how black can reach the score +9 I tried but I didn't manage to reach +9 with black. Who can help me? |
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| Author: | sorin [ Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 7x7 best play |
Maybe there is a better way for black to play in the beginning, if the komi is 9. |
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| Author: | Kirby [ Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 7x7 best play |
You might find this thread interesting: https://lifein19x19.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=17413 |
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| Author: | Gérard TAILLE [ Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 7x7 best play |
Kirby wrote: Thank you Kirby. The 7x7 game is not easy at all but at least your link help me a lot. |
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| Author: | Gérard TAILLE [ Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 7x7 best play |
I understood that in area scoring the perfect komi is 9 points and in territory scoring it is 8 points. With this in mind do you know if the following sequence is correct for both black and white? |
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| Author: | Gérard TAILLE [ Sat Nov 28, 2020 8:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 7x7 best play |
Gérard TAILLE wrote: I understood that in area scoring the perfect komi is 9 points and in territory scoring it is 8 points. With this in mind do you know if the following sequence is correct for both black and white? I believe the sequence is not correct for white because of and white appears in great difficulty (but I am not sure  )
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| Author: | AsapDunkas [ Tue Dec 01, 2020 3:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 7x7 best play |
Can someone share guides or tutorials on the game? 
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| Author: | Rémi [ Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 7x7 best play |
Gérard TAILLE wrote: Gérard TAILLE wrote: I understood that in area scoring the perfect komi is 9 points and in territory scoring it is 8 points. With this in mind do you know if the following sequence is correct for both black and white? I believe the sequence is not correct for white because of and white appears in great difficulty (but I am not sure )According to Crazy Stone, White 6 is a mistake in your first diagram (should be at 7), and Black 7 is indeed a winning move in the second diagram. Edit: My program generated a small opening book. You can browse it at https://www.crazy-sensei.com/book/go_7x7/ |
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| Author: | Gérard TAILLE [ Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 7x7 best play |
Rémi wrote: Gérard TAILLE wrote: Gérard TAILLE wrote: I understood that in area scoring the perfect komi is 9 points and in territory scoring it is 8 points. With this in mind do you know if the following sequence is correct for both black and white? I believe the sequence is not correct for white because of and white appears in great difficulty (but I am not sure )According to Crazy Stone, White 6 is a mistake in your first diagram (should be at 7), and Black 7 is indeed a winning move in the second diagram. Edit: My program generated a small opening book. You can browse it at https://www.crazy-sensei.com/book/go_7x7/ Rémi, what rules did you use to generate these openings? It seems you use area scoring because I see some mistakes for territory scoring. If it is the case do you have an opening book with territory scoring? |
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| Author: | Rémi [ Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 7x7 best play |
Gérard TAILLE wrote: Rémi, what rules did you use to generate these openings? It seems you use area scoring because I see some mistakes for territory scoring. If it is the case do you have an opening book with territory scoring? This book uses Chinese rules. I don't have a Japanese book. I am too busy to generate one at the moment, but I'll post it here if I make one later. |
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| Author: | Gérard TAILLE [ Mon Dec 07, 2020 8:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 7x7 best play |
Rémi wrote: Gérard TAILLE wrote: Rémi, what rules did you use to generate these openings? It seems you use area scoring because I see some mistakes for territory scoring. If it is the case do you have an opening book with territory scoring? This book uses Chinese rules. I don't have a Japanese book. I am too busy to generate one at the moment, but I'll post it here if I make one later. I understand Remy. BTW this 7x7 problem shows that japonese rules implies more accuracy than chinese rule because the score under chinese rule goes by two points (typically 1, 3, 5 ... points if no seki) but in japonese rule it goes by one point. If my analyse is correct "a" and "b" allows to end the game with 9 points score in area scoring but only "a" allows to get 8 points in territory scoring. |
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