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Offline dany
 Post subject: Semeai result?
Post #1 Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 5:04 pm 
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[go]$$c White to play
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O . . . . . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X O . B X O O O O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X . O O X O O X X X X O X . . |
$$ | X . . O O O X O O X O O X O O O O X . |
$$ | X . O . O X X O X X X X X X O O X X . |
$$ | X O . . O O X O X . . X . X X O X . X |
$$ | O . . . O X X X . . X O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . O . O X X . . X X O O O X . O X . X |
$$ | . . . O O O X O X X O . O . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O . . . X X O O X O O O . O X O . |
$$ | . X O X X X X O O X X . O . O . O X . |
$$ | . O O O X O O O . . . . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . O X X X O . O O X . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | O O X . X . O . O X . . . O O X O . . |
$$ | O X O O O O O O X O . . O O X O O . . |
$$ | X X X X O X X O X O O O . O X X O X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . X X X O X O X X O X . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]
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Offline Kirby
 Post subject: Re: Semeai result?
Post #2 Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:37 am 
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Can't white just do this?

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[go]$$Wc White to play
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O . . 2 1 3 . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X O . X X O O O O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X . O O X O O X X X X O X . . |
$$ | X . . O O O X O O X O O X O O O O X . |
$$ | X . O . O X X O X X X X X X O O X X . |
$$ | X O . . O O X O X . . X . X X O X . X |
$$ | O . . . O X X X . . X O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . O . O X X . . X X O O O X . O X . X |
$$ | . . . O O O X O X X O . O . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O . . . X X O O X O O O . O X O . |
$$ | . X O X X X X O O X X . O . O . O X . |
$$ | . O O O X O O O . . . . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . O X X X O . O O X . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | O O X . X . O . O X . . . O O X O . . |
$$ | O X O O O O O O X O . . O O X O O . . |
$$ | X X X X O X X O X O O O . O X X O X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . X X X O X O X X O X . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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Offline lightvector
 Post subject: Re: Semeai result?
Post #3 Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 8:43 am 
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Kirby wrote:
Can't white just do this?


Then what about this?
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Seki?
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[go]$$Wc Seki?
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . O . . 9 8 6 4 0 X O X X . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O . 5 2 1 3 . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X O 7 X X O O O O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X . O O X O O X X X X O X . . |
$$ | X . . O O O X O O X O O X O O O O X . |
$$ | X . O . O X X O X X X X X X O O X X . |
$$ | X O . . O O X O X . . X . X X O X . X |
$$ | O . . . O X X X . . X O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . O . O X X . . X X O O O X . O X . X |
$$ | . . . O O O X O X X O . O . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O . . . X X O O X O O O . O X O . |
$$ | . X O X X X X O O X X . O . O . O X . |
$$ | . O O O X O O O . . . . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . O X X X O . O O X . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | O O X . X . O . O X . . . O O X O . . |
$$ | O X O O O O O O X O . . O O X O O . . |
$$ | X X X X O X X O X O O O . O X X O X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . X X X O X O X X O X . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


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Ko?
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[go]$$Wc Ko?
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . O . . . . 5 4 . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O . . 2 1 3 6 . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X O . X X O O O O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X . O O X O O X X X X O X . . |
$$ | X . . O O O X O O X O O X O O O O X . |
$$ | X . O . O X X O X X X X X X O O X X . |
$$ | X O . . O O X O X . . X . X X O X . X |
$$ | O . . . O X X X . . X O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . O . O X X . . X X O O O X . O X . X |
$$ | . . . O O O X O X X O . O . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O . . . X X O O X O O O . O X O . |
$$ | . X O X X X X O O X X . O . O . O X . |
$$ | . O O O X O O O . . . . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . O X X X O . O O X . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | O O X . X . O . O X . . . O O X O . . |
$$ | O X O O O O O O X O . . O O X O O . . |
$$ | X X X X O X X O X O O O . O X X O X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . X X X O X O X X O X . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]
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Offline Gérard TAILLE
 Post subject: Re: Semeai result?
Post #4 Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 8:53 am 
Gosei

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To avoid the yose ko mentionned by Lightvector why not
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[go]$$Wc White to play
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . 3 . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O . . 2 1 . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X O . X X O O O O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X . O O X O O X X X X O X . . |
$$ | X . . O O O X O O X O O X O O O O X . |
$$ | X . O . O X X O X X X X X X O O X X . |
$$ | X O . . O O X O X . . X . X X O X . X |
$$ | O . . . O X X X . . X O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . O . O X X . . X X O O O X . O X . X |
$$ | . . . O O O X O X X O . O . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O . . . X X O O X O O O . O X O . |
$$ | . X O X X X X O O X X . O . O . O X . |
$$ | . O O O X O O O . . . . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . O X X X O . O O X . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | O O X . X . O . O X . . . O O X O . . |
$$ | O X O O O O O O X O . . O O X O O . . |
$$ | X X X X O X X O X O O O . O X X O X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . X X X O X O X X O X . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]
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Offline dany
 Post subject: Re: Semeai result?
Post #5 Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:52 am 
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lightvector wrote:
Kirby wrote:
Can't white just do this?


Then what about this?
Go Diagram
Seki?
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[go]$$Wc Seki?
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . O . . 9 8 6 4 0 X O X X . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O . 5 2 1 3 . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X O 7 X X O O O O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X . O O X O O X X X X O X . . |
$$ | X . . O O O X O O X O O X O O O O X . |
$$ | X . O . O X X O X X X X X X O O X X . |
$$ | X O . . O O X O X . . X . X X O X . X |
$$ | O . . . O X X X . . X O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . O . O X X . . X X O O O X . O X . X |
$$ | . . . O O O X O X X O . O . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O . . . X X O O X O O O . O X O . |
$$ | . X O X X X X O O X X . O . O . O X . |
$$ | . O O O X O O O . . . . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . O X X X O . O O X . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | O O X . X . O . O X . . . O O X O . . |
$$ | O X O O O O O O X O . . O O X O O . . |
$$ | X X X X O X X O X O O O . O X X O X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . X X X O X O X X O X . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


Go Diagram
Ko?
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[go]$$Wc Ko?
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . O . . . . 5 4 . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O . . 2 1 3 6 . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X O . X X O O O O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X . O O X O O X X X X O X . . |
$$ | X . . O O O X O O X O O X O O O O X . |
$$ | X . O . O X X O X X X X X X O O X X . |
$$ | X O . . O O X O X . . X . X X O X . X |
$$ | O . . . O X X X . . X O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . O . O X X . . X X O O O X . O X . X |
$$ | . . . O O O X O X X O . O . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O . . . X X O O X O O O . O X O . |
$$ | . X O X X X X O O X X . O . O . O X . |
$$ | . O O O X O O O . . . . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . O X X X O . O O X . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | O O X . X . O . O X . . . O O X O . . |
$$ | O X O O O O O O X O . . O O X O O . . |
$$ | X X X X O X X O X O O O . O X X O X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . X X X O X O X X O X . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]



Yes. After moves 1,3 there will be ko or seki
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Offline dany
 Post subject: Re: Semeai result?
Post #6 Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 10:08 am 
Dies with sente

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Gérard TAILLE wrote:
To avoid the yose ko mentionned by Lightvector why not
Go Diagram
White to play
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wc White to play
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . 3 . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O . . 2 1 . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X O . X X O O O O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X . O O X O O X X X X O X . . |
$$ | X . . O O O X O O X O O X O O O O X . |
$$ | X . O . O X X O X X X X X X O O X X . |
$$ | X O . . O O X O X . . X . X X O X . X |
$$ | O . . . O X X X . . X O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . O . O X X . . X X O O O X . O X . X |
$$ | . . . O O O X O X X O . O . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O . . . X X O O X O O O . O X O . |
$$ | . X O X X X X O O X X . O . O . O X . |
$$ | . O O O X O O O . . . . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . O X X X O . O O X . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | O O X . X . O . O X . . . O O X O . . |
$$ | O X O O O O O O X O . . O O X O O . . |
$$ | X X X X O X X O X O O O . O X X O X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . X X X O X O X X O X . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


The right answer!
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Offline dany
 Post subject: Re: Semeai result?
Post #7 Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 10:09 am 
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How respond to 4?
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[go]$$Wc How respond to 4?
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . O . . . 4 . 3 . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O . . 2 1 . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X O . X X O O O O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X . O O X O O X X X X O X . . |
$$ | X . . O O O X O O X O O X O O O O X . |
$$ | X . O . O X X O X X X X X X O O X X . |
$$ | X O . . O O X O X . . X . X X O X . X |
$$ | O . . . O X X X . . X O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . O . O X X . . X X O O O X . O X . X |
$$ | . . . O O O X O X X O . O . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O . . . X X O O X O O O . O X O . |
$$ | . X O X X X X O O X X . O . O . O X . |
$$ | . O O O X O O O . . . . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . O X X X O . O O X . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | O O X . X . O . O X . . . O O X O . . |
$$ | O X O O O O O O X O . . O O X O O . . |
$$ | X X X X O X X O X O O O . O X X O X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . X X X O X O X X O X . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]
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Offline jlt
 Post subject: Re: Semeai result?
Post #8 Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 10:22 am 
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Like this?

Go Diagram
How respond to 4
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[go]$$Wc How respond to 4
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . O . . . 4 . 3 . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O . . 2 1 5 . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X O . X X O O O O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X . O O X O O X X X X O X . . |
$$ | X . . O O O X O O X O O X O O O O X . |
$$ | X . O . O X X O X X X X X X O O X X . |
$$ | X O . . O O X O X . . X . X X O X . X |
$$ | O . . . O X X X . . X O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . O . O X X . . X X O O O X . O X . X |
$$ | . . . O O O X O X X O . O . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O . . . X X O O X O O O . O X O . |
$$ | . X O X X X X O O X X . O . O . O X . |
$$ | . O O O X O O O . . . . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . O X X X O . O O X . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | O O X . X . O . O X . . . O O X O . . |
$$ | O X O O O O O O X O . . O O X O O . . |
$$ | X X X X O X X O X O O O . O X X O X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . X X X O X O X X O X . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]
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Offline dany
 Post subject: Re: Semeai result?
Post #9 Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 10:55 am 
Dies with sente

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jlt wrote:
Like this?

Go Diagram
How respond to 4
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[go]$$Wc How respond to 4
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . O . . . 4 . 3 . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O . . 2 1 5 . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X O . X X O O O O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X . O O X O O X X X X O X . . |
$$ | X . . O O O X O O X O O X O O O O X . |
$$ | X . O . O X X O X X X X X X O O X X . |
$$ | X O . . O O X O X . . X . X X O X . X |
$$ | O . . . O X X X . . X O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . O . O X X . . X X O O O X . O X . X |
$$ | . . . O O O X O X X O . O . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O . . . X X O O X O O O . O X O . |
$$ | . X O X X X X O O X X . O . O . O X . |
$$ | . O O O X O O O . . . . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . O X X X O . O O X . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | O O X . X . O . O X . . . O O X O . . |
$$ | O X O O O O O O X O . . O O X O O . . |
$$ | X X X X O X X O X O O O . O X X O X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . X X X O X O X X O X . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


Yes

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[go]$$Wc what happens next?
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . O . . . 4 . 3 . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O . 5 2 1 . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X O . X X O O O O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X . O O X O O X X X X O X . . |
$$ | X . . O O O X O O X O O X O O O O X . |
$$ | X . O . O X X O X X X X X X O O X X . |
$$ | X O . . O O X O X . . X . X X O X . X |
$$ | O . . . O X X X . . X O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . O . O X X . . X X O O O X . O X . X |
$$ | . . . O O O X O X X O . O . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O . . . X X O O X O O O . O X O . |
$$ | . X O X X X X O O X X . O . O . O X . |
$$ | . O O O X O O O . . . . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . O X X X O . O O X . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | O O X . X . O . O X . . . O O X O . . |
$$ | O X O O O O O O X O . . O O X O O . . |
$$ | X X X X O X X O X O O O . O X X O X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . X X X O X O X X O X . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]
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Offline jlt
 Post subject: Re: Semeai result?
Post #10 Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 11:06 am 
Gosei
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Go Diagram
what happens next?
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[go]$$Wc what happens next?
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . O . . 9 4 8 3 . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O . 5 2 1 6 7 . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X O . X X O O O O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X . O O X O O X X X X O X . . |
$$ | X . . O O O X O O X O O X O O O O X . |
$$ | X . O . O X X O X X X X X X O O X X . |[/go]


Go Diagram
ko
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[go]$$Wc ko
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . O . . O X X O . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O . O X . B O . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X O . X X O O O O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X . O O X O O X X X X O X . . |
$$ | X . . O O O X O O X O O X O O O O X . |
$$ | X . O . O X X O X X X X X X O O X X . |[/go]
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Offline dany
 Post subject: Re: Semeai result?
Post #11 Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 11:15 am 
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jlt wrote:
Go Diagram
what happens next?
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[go]$$Wc what happens next?
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . O . . 9 4 8 3 . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O . 5 2 1 6 7 . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X O . X X O O O O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X . O O X O O X X X X O X . . |
$$ | X . . O O O X O O X O O X O O O O X . |
$$ | X . O . O X X O X X X X X X O O X X . |[/go]


Go Diagram
ko
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[go]$$Wc ko
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . O . . O X X O . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O . O X . B O . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X O . X X O O O O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X . O O X O O X X X X O X . . |
$$ | X . . O O O X O O X O O X O O O O X . |
$$ | X . O . O X X O X X X X X X O O X X . |[/go]


white can play better
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Offline jlt
 Post subject: Re: Semeai result?
Post #12 Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 11:26 am 
Gosei
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Go Diagram
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[go]$$Wc
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . O . . . 4 8 3 7 X O X X . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O . 5 2 1 6 . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X O . X X O O O O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X . O O X O O X X X X O X . . |
$$ | X . . O O O X O O X O O X O O O O X . |
$$ | X . O . O X X O X X X X X X O O X X . |[/go]


Go Diagram
Black dead
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[go]$$Wc Black dead
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . O . . . X X O O . O X X . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O . O X . X . W O O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X O . X X O O O O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X . O O X O O X X X X O X . . |
$$ | X . . O O O X O O X O O X O O O O X . |
$$ | X . O . O X X O X X X X X X O O X X . |[/go]
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Offline Gérard TAILLE
 Post subject: Re: Semeai result?
Post #13 Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 11:29 am 
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good point jlt
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[go]$$W
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . O . . . 4 . 3 . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O . b 2 1 a . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X O . X X O O O O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X . O O X O O X X X X O X . . |
$$ | X . . O O O X O O X O O X O O O O X . |
$$ | X . O . O X X O X X X X X X O O X X . |
$$ | X O . . O O X O X . . X . X X O X . X |
$$ | O . . . O X X X . . X O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . O . O X X . . X X O O O X . O X . X |
$$ | . . . O O O X O X X O . O . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O . . . X X O O X O O O . O X O . |
$$ | . X O X X X X O O X X . O . O . O X . |
$$ | . O O O X O O O . . . . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . O X X X O . O O X . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | O O X . X . O . O X . . . O O X O . . |
$$ | O X O O O O O O X O . . O O X O O . . |
$$ | X X X X O X X O X O O O . O X X O X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . X X X O X O X X O X . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]
In any case white "a" seems better than white "b" because after white "a" black has no more ko threat available
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Offline Gomoto
 Post subject: Re: Semeai result?
Post #14 Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 11:51 am 
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Techniques of Capturing Race by Tsuruyama Atsushi 8p
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Offline dany
 Post subject: Re: Semeai result?
Post #15 Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:04 pm 
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dany wrote:
Gérard TAILLE wrote:
To avoid the yose ko mentionned by Lightvector why not
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White to play
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[go]$$Wc White to play
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . 3 . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O . . 2 1 . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X O . X X O O O O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X . O O X O O X X X X O X . . |
$$ | X . . O O O X O O X O O X O O O O X . |
$$ | X . O . O X X O X X X X X X O O X X . |
$$ | X O . . O O X O X . . X . X X O X . X |
$$ | O . . . O X X X . . X O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . O . O X X . . X X O O O X . O X . X |
$$ | . . . O O O X O X X O . O . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O . . . X X O O X O O O . O X O . |
$$ | . X O X X X X O O X X . O . O . O X . |
$$ | . O O O X O O O . . . . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . O X X X O . O O X . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | O O X . X . O . O X . . . O O X O . . |
$$ | O X O O O O O O X O . . O O X O O . . |
$$ | X X X X O X X O X O O O . O X X O X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . X X X O X O X X O X . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


The right answer!


There is another right answer
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Offline jlt
 Post subject: Re: Semeai result?
Post #16 Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:29 pm 
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Go Diagram
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[go]$$Wc
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . O . . . 5 6 7 . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O . 4 1 2 3 . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X O . X X O O O O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X . O O X O O X X X X O X . . |
$$ | X . . O O O X O O X O O X O O O O X . |
$$ | X . O . O X X O X X X X X X O O X X . |[/go]


Go Diagram
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[go]$$Wc
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . O . . 8 . X O . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O . X . X O . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X O 9 X X O O O O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X . O O X O O X X X X O X . . |
$$ | X . . O O O X O O X O O X O O O O X . |
$$ | X . O . O X X O X X X X X X O O X X . |[/go]


Go Diagram
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[go]$$Wc
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . O . . . 4 . 7 . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O . 6 1 2 3 . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X O 5 X X O O O O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X . O O X O O X X X X O X . . |
$$ | X . . O O O X O O X O O X O O O O X . |
$$ | X . O . O X X O X X X X X X O O X X . |[/go]
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Offline dany
 Post subject: Re: Semeai result?
Post #17 Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:59 pm 
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jlt wrote:
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[go]$$Wc
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . O . . . 5 6 7 . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O . 4 1 2 3 . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X O . X X O O O O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X . O O X O O X X X X O X . . |
$$ | X . . O O O X O O X O O X O O O O X . |
$$ | X . O . O X X O X X X X X X O O X X . |[/go]


Go Diagram
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[go]$$Wc
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . O . . 8 . X O . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O . X . X O . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X O 9 X X O O O O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X . O O X O O X X X X O X . . |
$$ | X . . O O O X O O X O O X O O O O X . |
$$ | X . O . O X X O X X X X X X O O X X . |[/go]


Go Diagram
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[go]$$Wc
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . O . . . 4 . 7 . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O . 6 1 2 3 . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X O 5 X X O O O O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X . O O X O O X X X X O X . . |
$$ | X . . O O O X O O X O O X O O O O X . |
$$ | X . O . O X X O X X X X X X O O X X . |[/go]



Black 4

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[go]$$Wc
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . 4 . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O . . 1 2 3 . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X O . X X O O O O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X . O O X O O X X X X O X . . |
$$ | X . . O O O X O O X O O X O O O O X . |
$$ | X . O . O X X O X X X X X X O O X X . |[/go]
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Offline Kirby
 Post subject: Re: Semeai result?
Post #18 Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:51 pm 
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lightvector wrote:
Kirby wrote:
Can't white just do this?


Then what about this?
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Seki?
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[go]$$Wc Seki?
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . O . . 9 8 6 4 0 X O X X . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O . 5 2 1 3 . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X O 7 X X O O O O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X . O O X O O X X X X O X . . |
$$ | X . . O O O X O O X O O X O O O O X . |
$$ | X . O . O X X O X X X X X X O O X X . |
$$ | X O . . O O X O X . . X . X X O X . X |
$$ | O . . . O X X X . . X O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . O . O X X . . X X O O O X . O X . X |
$$ | . . . O O O X O X X O . O . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O . . . X X O O X O O O . O X O . |
$$ | . X O X X X X O O X X . O . O . O X . |
$$ | . O O O X O O O . . . . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . O X X X O . O O X . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | O O X . X . O . O X . . . O O X O . . |
$$ | O X O O O O O O X O . . O O X O O . . |
$$ | X X X X O X X O X O O O . O X X O X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . X X X O X O X X O X . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


Go Diagram
Ko?
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[go]$$Wc Ko?
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . O . . . . 5 4 . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O . . 2 1 3 6 . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X O . X X O O O O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X . O O X O O X X X X O X . . |
$$ | X . . O O O X O O X O O X O O O O X . |
$$ | X . O . O X X O X X X X X X O O X X . |
$$ | X O . . O O X O X . . X . X X O X . X |
$$ | O . . . O X X X . . X O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . O . O X X . . X X O O O X . O X . X |
$$ | . . . O O O X O X X O . O . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O . . . X X O O X O O O . O X O . |
$$ | . X O X X X X O O X X . O . O . O X . |
$$ | . O O O X O O O . . . . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . O X X X O . O O X . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | O O X . X . O . O X . . . O O X O . . |
$$ | O X O O O O O O X O . . O O X O O . . |
$$ | X X X X O X X O X O O O . O X X O X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . X X X O X O X X O X . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


Touché! Nice.

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Offline jlt
 Post subject: Re: Semeai result?
Post #19 Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:13 pm 
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I can't find the other solution. Can someone else see it?
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Offline Gérard TAILLE
 Post subject: Re: Semeai result?
Post #20 Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:19 pm 
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jlt wrote:
I can't find the other solution. Can someone else see it?

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[go]$$W
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O . . . . 1 . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X O . X X O O O O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O X . O O X O O X X X X O X . . |
$$ | X . . O O O X O O X O O X O O O O X . |
$$ | X . O . O X X O X X X X X X O O X X . |
$$ | X O . . O O X O X . . X . X X O X . X |
$$ | O . . . O X X X . . X O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . O . O X X . . X X O O O X . O X . X |
$$ | . . . O O O X O X X O . O . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O . . . X X O O X O O O . O X O . |
$$ | . X O X X X X O O X X . O . O . O X . |
$$ | . O O O X O O O . . . . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . O X X X O . O O X . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | O O X . X . O . O X . . . O O X O . . |
$$ | O X O O O O O O X O . . O O X O O . . |
$$ | X X X X O X X O X O O O . O X X O X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . X X X O X O X X O X . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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