Adrian Ghioc wrote:
1st unexpected result: Hirata-san lost to Morten Ofstad 4d from Norway!
http://www.361points.com/blog/2011/05/2 ... y-in-wagc/
http://www.361points.com/blog/2011/05/2 ... y-in-wagc/
Ireland have won 2 games, I am proud
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| Author: | HermanHiddema [ Sun May 29, 2011 12:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | World Amateur Go Championship 2011 |
The WAGC 2011 has just started. First round results are in as I post, with no big surprises yet, and can be found at: http://www.nihonkiin.or.jp/amakisen/wor ... esult.html Coverage at: http://ranka.intergofed.org/ Only 57 participants this year, down from 68 at its peak in 2006-2008. |
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| Author: | mw42 [ Sun May 29, 2011 10:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: World Amateur Go Championship 2011 |
2nd round results are posted. In the article, it says that some of the games are being broadcast. Are they on IGS? |
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| Author: | mw42 [ Sun May 29, 2011 6:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: World Amateur Go Championship 2011 |
mw42 wrote: Are they on IGS? No, I don't think so. They are broadcast on Wbaduk. |
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| Author: | Dusk Eagle [ Sun May 29, 2011 6:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: World Amateur Go Championship 2011 |
I'm curious: why is India's representative so weak? I would have thought they could find many people stronger than 4k in a country of that size. |
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| Author: | Adrian Ghioc [ Sun May 29, 2011 9:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: World Amateur Go Championship 2011 |
1st unexpected result: Hirata-san lost to Morten Ofstad 4d from Norway! http://www.361points.com/blog/2011/05/2 ... y-in-wagc/ |
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| Author: | SoDesuNe [ Mon May 30, 2011 1:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: World Amateur Go Championship 2011 |
Dusk Eagle wrote: I'm curious: why is India's representative so weak? I would have thought they could find many people stronger than 4k in a country of that size. As far as I know you have to pay for your flight yourself and I don't know about accommodations. Maybe this 4k was the only one willing to spend so much money (+ the time) on his hobby? |
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| Author: | Javaness [ Mon May 30, 2011 2:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: World Amateur Go Championship 2011 |
Adrian Ghioc wrote: 1st unexpected result: Hirata-san lost to Morten Ofstad 4d from Norway! http://www.361points.com/blog/2011/05/2 ... y-in-wagc/ Ireland have won 2 games, I am proud
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| Author: | Javaness [ Mon May 30, 2011 2:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: World Amateur Go Championship 2011 |
Adrian Ghioc wrote: 1st unexpected result: Hirata-san lost to Morten Ofstad 4d from Norway! http://www.361points.com/blog/2011/05/2 ... y-in-wagc/ Ireland have won 2 games, I am proud
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| Author: | Solomon [ Mon May 30, 2011 2:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: World Amateur Go Championship 2011 |
I don't find it very unexpected at all; you can only have so much stamina at the age of 84. |
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| Author: | oren [ Mon May 30, 2011 3:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: World Amateur Go Championship 2011 |
Araban wrote: I don't find it very unexpected at all; you can only have so much stamina at the age of 84. I think it's somewhat unexpected anyway. He probably had to have quite a bit of stamina to get through to win whatever tournament was held to find Japan's strongest amateur entry... It was also only the third game with the previous two being against low seeds. I would have really liked to see Eric Lui win the 4th round, but too much of an upset maybe. |
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| Author: | Mnemonic [ Mon May 30, 2011 3:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: World Amateur Go Championship 2011 |
I'm German so I'm cheering for Germany, but we aren't doing to well (currently place 25, was rated 10  )So I've decided to cheer for the Polish dude. Seriously, what is up with this guy? He is only 4 dan but in the top 4? And all those crazy fuseki strategies I'm hearing about? I'm just glad I'm not a dan player, Dresden isn't too far from Poland 
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| Author: | Sverre [ Mon May 30, 2011 11:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: World Amateur Go Championship 2011 |
Adrian Ghioc wrote: 1st unexpected result: Hirata-san lost to Morten Ofstad 4d from Norway! http://www.361points.com/blog/2011/05/2 ... y-in-wagc/ Go Morten! Go Norway! That was awesome! |
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| Author: | Adrian Ghioc [ Tue May 31, 2011 12:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: World Amateur Go Championship 2011 |
Araban wrote: I don't find it very unexpected at all; you can only have so much stamina at the age of 84. Oops! Sorry, you're right. Let me re-phrase it and tell the real news... A no name beginner, old granddaddy from a certain Asian country unknown until today for its go achievements, unexpectedly won against a 7d from Canada & a 5d from Czech Republic. Some sources claim that more such big surprises are on their way. However, as expected, he lost to a famous 4d from Norway, multiple world & European champion. Is this OK?   Adrian P.S. Sorry, Morten; Gomen nasai, Hirata-sama 
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| Author: | Solomon [ Tue May 31, 2011 12:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: World Amateur Go Championship 2011 |
Adrian Ghioc wrote: Is this OK? Yes, much better!
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| Author: | Adrian Ghioc [ Tue May 31, 2011 12:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: World Amateur Go Championship 2011 |
Araban wrote: Adrian Ghioc wrote: Is this OK? Yes, much better!Thank you  The problem is that I'm a little bit confused ... that Japanese beginner has just won against a 4 dan from Spain...  I thought that he cannot win against 4 dans... There is something wrong here...
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| Author: | hyperpape [ Tue May 31, 2011 3:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: World Amateur Go Championship 2011 |
C'mon. I thought Araban's point was fine. Hirata obviously has a huge wealth of accumulated experience and talent. It's no surprise that he can play very well. But it's also not at all surprising if his age leads to inconsistency. Maybe it's not expected that he'll lose to a European 4d, but it's not quite a shock. |
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| Author: | Adrian Ghioc [ Tue May 31, 2011 3:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: World Amateur Go Championship 2011 |
hyperpape wrote: Maybe it's not expected that he'll lose to a European 4d Aha hyperpape wrote: but it's not quite a shock. Well, no one said that I remember that 20 yrs ago Schlemper defeated both Japan's and China's representatives. THAT was a shock Adrian P.S. I'll stop here. This discussion is already pointless. At least to me... |
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| Author: | HermanHiddema [ Tue May 31, 2011 7:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: World Amateur Go Championship 2011 |
hyperpape wrote: C'mon. I thought Araban's point was fine. I assumed it was a joke, actually. Quote: Hirata obviously has a huge wealth of accumulated experience and talent. It's no surprise that he can play very well. But it's also not at all surprising if his age leads to inconsistency. It is to me. In my experience older players are generally more consistent than younger players. Quote: Maybe it's not expected that he'll lose to a European 4d, but it's not quite a shock. It's not? I would consider it one of the most unexpected results I have ever seen at that level of play. |
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| Author: | quantumf [ Tue May 31, 2011 10:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: World Amateur Go Championship 2011 |
HermanHiddema wrote: It's not? I would consider it one of the most unexpected results I have ever seen at that level of play. Agreed |
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| Author: | LovroKlc [ Tue May 31, 2011 12:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: World Amateur Go Championship 2011 |
What do you think, does Hirata have any chance of winning the tournament? That would be really great, but I doubt it, because of his bad SOS... |
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