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Author:  marvin [ Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:04 pm ]
Post subject:  What to do?

Was the opponent's(Black) choice of last joseki good?

And what to do now?


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Author:  logan [ Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What to do?

Last joseki for Black was fine, but k4 was the wrong direction.

White can continue d6.

Author:  SmoothOper [ Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:42 pm ]
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logan wrote:
Last joseki for Black was fine, but k4 was the wrong direction.

White can continue d6.


I don't know about the black 34 approach, I don't think it is considered joseki, I have played it myself in the past, with decent results I would add, but it seems not recommended at pro level so I stopped doing it. I sometimes see players pull this against my San-San, which is pretty much the same formation, and definitely isn't joseki, but it may only cost a few points, and not really be noticed as a mistake if one isn't playing at a certain level, plus I'm not sure exactly how to respond so, it has that advantage.

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Author:  logan [ Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What to do?

He asked about the last joseki.

Author:  marvin [ Sat Feb 09, 2013 3:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: What to do?

Yes, I was asking about joseki around move 19.

Black plays G5... How to continue?

Author:  lovelove [ Sat Feb 09, 2013 3:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: What to do?

White G3 is not joseki. Study more joseki.

Author:  SoDesuNe [ Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: What to do?

Although G3 was played by professionals, it does not happen very often.

You can get a first impression of the Joseki here: http://dailyjoseki.com/browse/bwpwxibwnwwmbxjwvsbwo

But even better when you look it up in a Joseki dictionary.

Author:  marvin [ Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What to do?

Thank you all for answers. I thought i saw it in Get strong at joseki 3. But now I see the problem with it(G3)

Author:  ez4u [ Tue Feb 12, 2013 7:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What to do?

G3 is a play when there are already other stones close by. Below the exchange of 1 for 2 finishes things locally and White turns elsewhere...
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With a wider corner descending at F2 or connecting at G5 are common alternatives:

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