Life In 19x19 :: Online course to get stronger at Go?

Hi,

I'm a 5 kyu on KGS, and I want to study more seriously Go in order to get stronger.
I think a good way to achieve that is to join an online Go course where I can regularly: play small tournaments, get games reviewed, and get go lectures.

I just discovered http://www.yunguseng.com/ that looks great.
Do you know other online Go course? Do you have any feedback?

Thanks for your help! :-)

thomaas wrote:

Does that sound like spam to anyone else?

Aside from being from a non-native English speaker?

Well, his earlier posts seem genuine.

http://www.lifein19x19.com/forum/viewto ... 64#p143764

spam? seriously?

I didn't know spammers are now targeting Go Players.

You guys are too paranoid. Don't be so hard on the newbies

I've seen things you wouldn't believe...

Oh, I'm definitely not a spam. I just removed the link from my post. Still interested in feedback though. Thanks!

Or, you could do the smart thing (what I did), and realize that no matter how many books you read, games you play, tsumego you solve, reviews you undertake, you will neverget better, and you're deluding yourself if you think otherwise.

KenPruitt wrote:

But... People do get better. How does that work?

Ken Pruitt wrote:

I think the smart thing to do here (what I did), is to put "Ken Pruitt" on ignore.

Author:	thomaas [ Mon Nov 25, 2013 4:03 am ]
Post subject:	Online course to get stronger at Go?
Hi, I'm a 5 kyu on KGS, and I want to study more seriously Go in order to get stronger. I think a good way to achieve that is to join an online Go course where I can regularly: play small tournaments, get games reviewed, and get go lectures. I just discovered yunguseng school that looks great. Do you know other online Go course? Do you have any feedback? Thanks for your help! Edit: I'm not a spam ^^ I removed the link

Author:	SoDesuNe [ Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:15 am ]
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There is the Nordic Go Academy (http://www.nordicgoacademy.com/), led by three strong european amateurs (6-7-dans). I played two months in this academy and I was satisfied with the format and content, especially for the price. You can also check out Guo Juan's Internet Go School (http://www.internetgoschool.com/) for pro tuition. The website offers a lot of video content, too.

Author:	Bill Spight [ Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:37 am ]
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thomaas wrote: Hi, I'm a 5 kyu on KGS, and I want to study more seriously Go in order to get stronger. I think a good way to achieve that is to join an online Go course where I can regularly: play small tournaments, get games reviewed, and get go lectures. I just discovered http://www.yunguseng.com/ that looks great. Do you know other online Go course? Do you have any feedback? Thanks for your help! Does that sound like spam to anyone else? Aside from being from a non-native English speaker?

Author:	RBerenguel [ Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:47 am ]
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Bill Spight wrote: thomaas wrote: Hi, I'm a 5 kyu on KGS, and I want to study more seriously Go in order to get stronger. I think a good way to achieve that is to join an online Go course where I can regularly: play small tournaments, get games reviewed, and get go lectures. I just discovered http://www.yunguseng.com/ that looks great. Do you know other online Go course? Do you have any feedback? Thanks for your help! Does that sound like spam to anyone else? Aside from being from a non-native English speaker? It does indeed (I work more or less in the field of SEO, so this just would qualify as bad forum-spam, not even worthy of Google-punishment), but it can be a coincidence...

Author:	Bill Spight [ Mon Nov 25, 2013 9:42 am ]
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Well, his earlier posts seem genuine. viewtopic.php?p=143764#p143764

Life In 19x19 http://www.lifein19x19.com/

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Author:	RBerenguel [ Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:04 am ]
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Bill Spight wrote: Well, his earlier posts seem genuine. http://www.lifein19x19.com/forum/viewto ... 64#p143764 Yup, this is why I think it may be a coincidence. By the way, I also suggest the Nordic Go Academy, I'm still enrolled. A pity I was out during SoDesuNe's stay!

Author:	xed_over [ Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:40 am ]
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spam? seriously? I didn't know spammers are now targeting Go Players. You guys are too paranoid. Don't be so hard on the newbies

Author:	RBerenguel [ Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:02 am ]
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xed_over wrote: spam? seriously? I didn't know spammers are now targeting Go Players. You guys are too paranoid. Don't be so hard on the newbies Quoting Rutger Hauer: Roy Batty wrote: I've seen things you wouldn't believe...

Author:	thomaas [ Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:37 pm ]
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Oh, I'm definitely not a spam. I just removed the link from my post. Still interested in feedback though. Thanks!

Author:	RBerenguel [ Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:42 pm ]
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thomaas wrote: Oh, I'm definitely not a spam. I just removed the link from my post. Still interested in feedback though. Thanks! Don't worry, it was pretty clear you weren't. Just slow news Monday. In any case, if you are around the GMT timezone the NGA may suit you (or not)

Author:	Bill Spight [ Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:45 pm ]
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thomaas wrote: Oh, I'm definitely not a spam. I just removed the link from my post. Still interested in feedback though. Thanks! Please accept my apologies. I hope that your go studies go well.

Author:	Hanmanchu [ Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:34 am ]
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Hi thomaas, I can not tell you something about online go courses, but when I was 4~5 kyu KGS and maybe 6kyu in the real world, I hit a stone wall and would not improve further (= I did not get stronger stonewise). So I paid for lessons from a stronger player on KGS and it helped me a lot, because he helped me to get rid of my bad habits and showed me on which part of my game I had to work (reading, attitude). So if you (or someone else) is interested in that, I can tell you about it.

Author:	karaklis [ Wed Nov 27, 2013 10:23 pm ]
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I think we are all interested in your experience (especially those who have hit a wall in the 5k area), so just give it a go.

Author:	Knotwilg [ Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:47 am ]
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Hi Thomaas, There are two important aspects of a study group: - the discipline/rhythm - the strength of the teachers The Nordic Go Academy is tutored by 6-7d so that's all right. I would not settle and surely not pay for lower than 6d. So it remains for you to check the frequency of the lessons and the discipline. With discipline I mean that some online lessons tend to drift into lengthy discussions of ad hoc tactics by either teacher or other pupils. (Edit: it looks like the Nordic academy has a splendid offer and quite a heavy pace!) In my opinion and experience, 6 kyu is an unreal barrier. It's a wall you may hit after a while of unguided playing. Anyone serious about Go doing the right thing will overcome that barrier in no time. Doing the right thing includes: - play a lot and don't be afraid to invest some time in a game - do tsumego - get yourself some source of ideas - analyze your games for what went wrong and whether the newly acquired ideas were applied I'm only 2d so in fact you shouldn't listen to my advice at all, but still I'd recommend a few sources of very basic ideas which may have a strong impact on your rank and level: - http://senseis.xmp.net/?DieterVerhofsta ... mesmanship (the things no one talks about, by me, 2d) - http://senseis.xmp.net/?HaengMaTutorialForBeginners (by Minue, 6d) - http://senseis.xmp.net/?BasicInstinct (by me and others, 2-5d) - http://senseis.xmp.net/?OneTwoThree (by Charles Matthews, 4d)

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Author:	KenPruitt [ Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:19 pm ]
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Or, you could do the smart thing (what I did), and realize that no matter how many books you read, games you play, tsumego you solve, reviews you undertake, you will neverget better, and you're deluding yourself if you think otherwise.

Author:	Kirby [ Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:45 pm ]
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KenPruitt wrote: Or, you could do the smart thing (what I did), and realize that no matter how many books you read, games you play, tsumego you solve, reviews you undertake, you will neverget better, and you're deluding yourself if you think otherwise. But... People do get better. How does that work?

Author:	Boidhre [ Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:53 pm ]
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Kirby wrote: KenPruitt wrote: Or, you could do the smart thing (what I did), and realize that no matter how many books you read, games you play, tsumego you solve, reviews you undertake, you will neverget better, and you're deluding yourself if you think otherwise. But... People do get better. How does that work? They don't get better they were always better, they just hadn't figured that part out yet.

Author:	skydyr [ Thu Jan 02, 2014 10:22 am ]
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KenPruitt wrote: Or, you could do the smart thing (what I did), and realize that no matter how many books you read, games you play, tsumego you solve, reviews you undertake, you will neverget better, and you're deluding yourself if you think otherwise. If you're so downbeat about it, what do you get out of playing? And how do you expect to improve when you've convinced yourself that you can't? You may want to consider playing malkovich games, also, as writing down your thoughts and feeling about the game every move could give you a better perspective on where you are going wrong, as when people plateau, it's often a matter of approach to the game, rather than specific tesuji, etc. that they know or don't.

Author:	leichtloeslich [ Thu Jan 02, 2014 11:28 am ]
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Ken Pruitt wrote: Or, you could do the smart thing (what I did), and realize that no matter how many books you read, games you play, tsumego you solve, reviews you undertake, you will neverget better, and you're deluding yourself if you think otherwise. I think the smart thing to do here (what I did), is to put "Ken Pruitt" on ignore.

Author:	daal [ Thu Jan 02, 2014 3:19 pm ]
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leichtloeslich wrote: Ken Pruitt wrote: Or, you could do the smart thing (what I did), and realize that no matter how many books you read, games you play, tsumego you solve, reviews you undertake, you will neverget better, and you're deluding yourself if you think otherwise. I think the smart thing to do here (what I did), is to put "Ken Pruitt" on ignore. A call to mobbing is rarely the smart thing to do.