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Author:  LokBuddha [ Sun Dec 01, 2013 2:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Finding games in GoWorld

Hello, does anybody know a quick way to find the all the games (sgf) commented in Go World Archive? I have gogod database and go world archive. Reason is I want all the games to print out using drago and replay/memorize using a real board then go back to the computer to read the commentaries.

Author:  ez4u [ Sun Dec 01, 2013 6:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Finding games in GoWorld

Some games in GoGoD include the information that they are analyzed in Go World. However, this is not even close to comprehensive. I think the best bet is to simply search GoGoD for a particular event that you want to study in GW. I use kombilo for searches rather than Drago, but I know you can search GoGoD from within Drago, so it should be quite convenient for your intended use.

Author:  macelee [ Sun Dec 01, 2013 11:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Finding games in GoWorld

If you install the free pattern-search program Kombilo on your system, let it index your SGF collection, then the games commented from popular sources (including Go World) will be highlighted in its game list.

The raw data of this list in a file under kombilo installation: 'kombilo/src/data/references'. Unfortunately it only contains the signatures of these commented games. You need a separate software package to decode these signatures and find the actual games.

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Author:  daal [ Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Finding games in GoWorld

You can find all of the go world tagged games in GoGod using Kombilo. Go to the "game info" search tab (see pic above), check "referenced" and in the "anywhere" field type "go world." My search from my 2009 GoGod turned up 74 matches.

Author:  LokBuddha [ Mon Dec 02, 2013 6:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Finding games in GoWorld

I think daal got it, but 74 is not the right number, should be around 800+ (average 8 games commented/issue). I checked the reference and it comes to 1900+ games!! The sad part is that the software could not find the games when I type in "Go World [insert a number]" or any of the combination of the three characters.(sometimes it works, but mostly not. )

I really want it to search "Go World [number]" and it just return the games for a particular issue, and study from there, but this only work for 74 games like daal stated. is this a software bug or am i missing something.

Author:  judicata [ Mon Dec 02, 2013 6:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Finding games in GoWorld

I'm not sure whether there is a better search string for you to use (other than "Go World [no.]"), but I've always had good luck with the pattern-search method. I use SmartGo for Windows (currently not available)* with the GoGoD database, set it to match the pattern, and I find the game within the first several moves. As others have said, I think Kombilo has this feature. Being able to search for games by issue number would be a bit faster, since you could pull all 8 (or so) games at once. But pattern searching is really fast too--after the database is loaded, it would probably take no more than 2 minutes to find the games.

If you're asking for .sgf files with the commentary included, I'm quite sure you're out of luck.

*Side note: My understanding is that SmartGo for PC/MAC is being developed with the GoGoD database included and will be re-released. I believe the iOS version of SmartGo already includes the database.

Author:  LokBuddha [ Mon Dec 02, 2013 8:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Finding games in GoWorld

I tried to modify the reference file in the data folder using notepad++, deleting all except GW (Go world), but it still gives me all the 1900+ games reference. To my surprise, I delete the reference file and Kombilo still gives me all the 1900+ games reference.

I was hoping this trick could limit to a particular GW# reference just by editing the reference file, but what is going wrong here?

PS: Searching for string Go world # would not work because in GoGod GC (game comment) property, some games have, but most of the games don't.

PS: Of course pattern search, and date search work fine, but I really want a more convenience way to get all the games for a particular GW issue or a particular commented games collection without having to tediously finding one by one. The above method of modifying reference file should work, but I don't know what went wrong?!

And of course, I just need the uncommented sgf to print out to study, not a commented sgf.

PS: I also have tried to keep the 1900+ references search result, and clicked on the games for a particular GW# so that they appear on the left hand side window, but I can't figure out how to saves those games in one go to a folder. Instead, Kombilo saves all 1900+.

Author:  macelee [ Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Finding games in GoWorld

I wrote a script to process the reference data in Kombilo. There are 1959 records, of which 1289 are from Go World. (The games are up to Go World 127, the last two issues missing.)

I then wrote another script to compare the signatures against the Go4Go database, trying to extract the game list. But some of the signatures are actually invalid, such as 'mqflfijnglph' (this is invalid because the board has not been rotated). I will need to write another code to fix this :(

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