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Post #21 Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 3:48 am 
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W42 is just too big a ladder breaker.

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Post #22 Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:02 pm 
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Game 4 started already.

Before lunch break,
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W:Park, B:Fan

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Post #23 Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:40 am 
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Game 4;
Fan Tingyu defeated Park Jeonghwan by 5.
(Fan with 1 penalty and Park with 2 penalty)

Fan Tingyu became the youngest Ing Champion and 9p.

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Post #24 Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:10 am 
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trout wrote:
Game 4;
Fan Tingyu defeated Park Jeonghwan by 5.
(Fan with 1 penalty and Park with 2 penalty)

Fan Tingyu became the youngest Ing Champion and 9p.



Congrats to Fan Tingyu!

Those who follow the World Baseball Classic may have seen this coming: China's early elimination from pool play (after being crushed by Cuba on March 4) meant that Fan had a solid advantage over Park (Korea only being eliminated by tiebreaker late into the evening on March 5!) (=

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Post #25 Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:09 am 
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Can someone please tell me why Park allowed both of his groups at the top to be killed?

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Post #26 Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:19 am 
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Wow. Seems like international go will be an all China affair within 5 years.

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Post #27 Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:48 am 
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Can someone please tell me why Park allowed both of his groups at the top to be killed?

It seems strange, but he did that because he was slightly ahead after sacrificing both those groups. He fell behind later on.

He had three potentially weak groups, and if he'd stubbornly tried to save them all, black would have very likely gained something anyway, or killed something anyway.

In the actual game, white's quite thick in the center after the trade and takes a reasonable amount of profit with 100 too. He got two moves in a row out of the ko. At around the time when white played 120, he was on track to win the game.

Big write up here: 7th Ing Cup

This one took us a long time, but we figured it's only once every four years so... :)

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Post #28 Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:39 pm 
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joppon wrote:
Can someone please tell me why Park allowed both of his groups at the top to be killed?


The group at upper-left corner is about 18 points large and it was given up deliberately. Although it is hard to give W98 an accurate value it got to be very large too. Before that, W96 is a good move (black cannot block from outside, otherwise a ko fight in the corner). So white had a big yose left after giving up the group which is a bonus.

The upper-right group is not alive any way. The ko exists as early as move W58. At that time it wasn't big enough (black needs two moves to gain about 30 points). W110 ko threat is probably much larger than it appears (black group there is significantly weakened).

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Post #29 Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 4:44 pm 
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I sleep in for 3 hours until 3:00 am, and look at the game, at the point Park lost his two big groups, then black try the dragon in the center, and THEN Park played the large knight move. I thought this is it.... game deciding moment.

Finally, when i found out park lost this game, i feel that Park must have felt very bad for losing this game...and then I saw the picture of him at the counting stage at gogameguru... I really feel his pain.

As a side note: I happened to watch the ustream last night at the beginning of the game. I think Kwon Kap-yong? (Park's teacher) came, and do some massage for Park, as well as some head massage. I thought it was a nice teacher-student relationship and I really felt the pressure on Park at that moment.

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Post #30 Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:55 am 
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I didn't notice if someone already mentioned but apparently Baduk TV is experimenting with live translation. You can see Ing cup final round on their youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9SAla0R ... UKMg6uuFo2

Also tomorrow they will do Maxim cup final, first round, Lee Sedol vs Park Junghwan - see their page on Ustream.

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Post #31 Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:49 pm 
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in fact lee changho became 9 dan pro 30 days before fan tingyu .

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