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Post #21 Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:26 pm 
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whoopp thanks so much.

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Post #22 Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:20 pm 
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not official yet, but look like Andy Liu lost to Choi Cheolhan.

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Post #23 Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:40 pm 
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As of now(1:30am New York), 3 games finished.

Andy Liu lost to Choi Cheolhan.
F. Aguilar lost to Jiang Weijie.
Artem Kachanovskyi lost to Kim Jiseok.

PS.
Lee Sedol won over Takao Shinji by 2.5.
Park Junghwan defeated Ogata Masaki.
Fujii Shuya wom against Yamada Kimio.
Tuo Jiaxi defeated Chang Hao.
Chen Shiyuan defeated Cho U.
Kong Jie defeated Yuki Satoshi.
Piao Wenyao won over Heo Yeongho.

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Post #24 Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:11 am 
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Cho Chikun d. Yamashita Keigo!
Iyama d. Gu Li (nice game!)
Sakai Hideyuki d. Lee Younggu

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Post #25 Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:03 am 
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and Hane Naoki defeated Seto Taiki, Qiu Jun defeated O Meien, Xie He defeated Kang Yootaek

official results

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Post #26 Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:51 am 
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Does anybody have records of any of the games?

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Post #27 Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:00 am 
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Shedal wrote:
Does anybody have records of any of the games?


Should be added here soon - http://igokisen.web.fc2.com/wr/fc.html

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Post #28 Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:17 am 
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if you can decipher the chinese, all the games are here:

http://weiqi.sports.tom.com/php/listqipu.html

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Post #29 Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:19 am 
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I watched the Andy Liu Vs. Choi Cheolhan match live yesterday. I got to say that I understand how strong Choi is now. I am 2d kgs, if Andy Liu would play me, he'll gives me 7 stones handicaps and beat me down like pulp. But here Choi won the game easily, easy opening, middle game, and simplified the endgame. It was incredible how he did it. I didn't feel any difficult for Choi in this game at all.

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Post #30 Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:20 am 
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emeraldemon wrote:
if you can decipher the chinese, all the games are here:

http://weiqi.sports.tom.com/php/listqipu.html

and adding CA[GB2312] to the sgf will make the Chinese text legible in CGoban (and probably other popular editors as well)

Code:
perl -pi.bak -e 's/\(;SZ\[19\]/\(;CA\[GB2312\]SZ\[19\]/' *.sgf

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Post #31 Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:25 am 
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LokBuddha wrote:
I watched the Andy Liu Vs. Choi Cheolhan match live yesterday.

is this the game?
崔哲瀚执 黑 中盘胜 刘志远
http://weiqi.sports.tom.com/qipu/201108 ... czhlzy.sgf


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Post #32 Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:34 am 
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xed_over wrote:
LokBuddha wrote:
I watched the Andy Liu Vs. Choi Cheolhan match live yesterday.

is this the game?


yes

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Post #33 Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:53 am 
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I watched BBW's game, and I didn't like his chances after move 5 (edit: move 8, I forgot to count the lower left exchange). :-?

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Post #34 Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:59 pm 
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Too bad the Western players couldn't manage a win. Looking forward maybe there will be some sort of stream of the finals? The official website has a link to ustream in the same row as the date/time for the finals.

http://jad.fujitsu.com/event/igo/
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/igo-fujitsu-cup

Finals will be http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=su ... 11am+japan

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Post #35 Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:58 pm 
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2nd round results:

Lee Sedol defeated Fujii Shuya by resign.
Xie He defeated Kong Jie by resign.
Park Junghwan defeated Chen Shiyuan.
Jiang Weijie defeated Kim Jiseok.
Piao Wenyao defeated Hane Naoki.
Qiu Jun defeated Cho Chikun.
Sakai Hideyuki defeated Tuo Jiaxi.
Iyama Yuuta defeated Choi Chulhan.

3rd round will be held tomorrow.


Last edited by trout on Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:43 pm, edited 2 times in total.

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Post #36 Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 8:51 am 
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I've been replaying over the Gu Li v Iyama Yuta game, it's very exciting and complicated, ending in a massive ko:



(Sorry about the encoding, Iyama Yuta is white) I can't quite see why Gu Li resigned, it looks like a two-step ko to me, but I'm sure he read ahead and saw that he couldn't win it.

It seems that now a Japanese player will definitely be in the top 4. Just for fun, here are my predictions for the final rounds:

Quarterfinals:
Piao Wenyao > Park Junghwan
Iyama Yuta > Sakai Hideyuki
Lee Sedol > Qiu Jun
Xie He > Jiang Weijie

Semifinals:
Iyama Yuta > Piao Wenyao
Lee Sedol > Xie He

Finals:
Lee Sedol > Iyama Yuta

Iyama Meijin is awesome, but I still think Lee Sedol is the best in the world. Either way I would be very excited to see a Lee/Iyama final!

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Post #37 Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:08 am 
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There is also the Q16 ko which is initiated once white descends to T14. Black cannot win both.

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Post #38 Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:23 am 
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emeraldemon wrote:
(Sorry about the encoding, Iyama Yuta is white) I can't quite see why Gu Li resigned, it looks like a two-step ko to me, but I'm sure he read ahead and saw that he couldn't win it.


What I have read :

If black save the L8 group, W descent at T14, then it's a ko for the Q12 group
But the H14 group is also a ko, it mean that black will lose either Q12 or H14 group

If black doesn't save the L8 group and save the Q12 group, white win the A6 ko too

Whatever black does, the big white dragon is alive


Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong in my analysis :mrgreen:

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Post #39 Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:37 am 
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Ok, so when white plays the descent as a ko threat at 222, why doesn't black just connect at T14? (maybe we should move to another thread?)

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Post #40 Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 10:20 am 
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Well, the heart of the matter is number of ko threats. White has a bunch involving black's center group. If he connects at T14, that gives white two more ko threats (I think) starting with R17.

Someone stronger would need to give you a tally, but I played the game out a couple times and keep getting Gu Li lacking if he plays T14. A strong player like him would be able to read it out, I need to play it out.

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