Nongshim Cup: translate chinese commentary?

Magicwand · **#21**

var 3-4
In actual game Tanshaw cut :w2:

and letting black play :b3:

missed the chance to win easy. answer to :w6:

at

and

is a momentum move. building big right was favorable to black.

FIG 4
:w1:

forcing black to connect. If just connect, it would be easy win for black. but retalition at :b4:

was losing move and lost 6 stones on top. White is on top now.

FIG 4-1
connecting at :b4:

would have sealed the win for black.

Magicwand · **#22**

VAR:5-1

trade was made because of buyomi. but it was -4 point finish because it made capturing white stones sente.
VAR:5 Lee dong hoon tried his best to catchup and lost by half point but it was very comfortable half point because white didnt even bother ko fight at "a".

emeraldemon · **#23**

Thanks

. It's a shame about not having sgfs.

Magicwand · **#24**

emeraldemon wrote:

Thanks

. It's a shame about not having sgfs.

I think they do. I don't know how to use them.

Kirby · **#25**

Magicwand wrote:

emeraldemon wrote:

Thanks

. It's a shame about not having sgfs.

I think they do. I don't know how to use them.

I was curious about this since you mentioned it, so I took a look at the site (http://www.cyberoro.com/news/news_view.oro?num=517211). In particular, if you view the source for the page, and search for the first text that you quoted, MW, you can see the following:

Code:

<center><div class=caption><center> <b> ▼ 참고도1-2(흑, 곤란)</b> </center></div><script>showgibo('http://open.cyberoro.com/photo/201210/[517211]121018c1-2.ntf',400,'center');</script></center><br>
실전에선 백1에 흑2로 막았다. 이후 흑8로 젖히는 싸움은 잘 안 된다. 백9로 끊어 싸우면 흑이 좋지 않은 자세. <br>
<br>

Looks like they do some stuff with javascript for the image, etc. Anyway, if you take the hyperlink and paste it in your browser directly, you can download the file (http://open.cyberoro.com/photo/201210/[517211]121018c1-2.ntf).

The file opens in a text editor, and has an interesting format, which can be seen here:

Code:

1
(
2[cc]
2[ic]
2[nc]
1[oc]
1[bd]
2[dd]
2[fd]
2[nd]
1[pd]
1[cf]
1[ef]
1[pf]
1[bi]
2[di]
1[pj]
2[cn]
2[jo]
2[dp]
1[op]
1[qp]
2[cq]
1[fq]
1[hq]
2[jq]
2[mq]
1[dr]
1[nr]
)
21
W[gp]
B[fp]
W[gq]
B[gr]
W[hp]
B[hr]
W[fo]
B[eo]
W[ep]
B[go]
W[fn]
B[ip]
W[ho]
B[io]
W[hn]
B[in]
W[iq]
B[hm]
W[gn]
B[eq]
W[jp]

To switch this to an SGF, you can make a couple of quick modifications:
1.) Do a quick find/replace on the capital "B[" and "W[" elements so that they start with semicolons (eg. "B[" becomes ";B[").
2.) Do a find/replace on the "1[" with "AB[". Do the same to replace "2[" with "AW[".
3.) Remove excess parentheses.
4.) Slap on "(;FF[3]SZ[19]" at the top of the file.
5.) Add a parenthesis at the end of the file.
6.) ???
7.) Profit!!!

This gave me:

Code:

(;FF[3]SZ[19]
AW[cc]
AW[ic]
AW[nc]
AB[oc]
AB[bd]
AW[dd]
AW[fd]
AW[nd]
AB[pd]
AB[cf]
AB[ef]
AB[pf]
AB[bi]
AW[di]
AB[pj]
AW[cn]
AW[jo]
AW[dp]
AB[op]
AB[qp]
AW[cq]
AB[fq]
AB[hq]
AW[jq]
AW[mq]
AB[dr]
AB[nr]
;W[gp]
;B[fp]
;W[gq]
;B[gr]
;W[hp]
;B[hr]
;W[fo]
;B[eo]
;W[ep]
;B[go]
;W[fn]
;B[ip]
;W[ho]
;B[io]
;W[hn]
;B[in]
;W[iq]
;B[hm]
;W[gn]
;B[eq]
;W[jp]
)

Which can be seen in an SGF editor:

---

Kind of a tedious approach, but it could be automated. I might be inclined to do so if I can get more information about the spec for these elusive ntf files... :batman:

Magicwand · **#26**

Kirby: you rock!
i realize that commentary are far more detailed than others i have seen.
It would be nice to copy every "spotlight focus"(i think this is a good translation) into SGF and post it here.

Kirby · **#27**

Magicwand wrote:

Kirby: you rock!
i realize that commentary are far more detailed than others i have seen.
It would be nice to copy every "spotlight focus"(i think this is a good translation) into SGF and post it here.

I'm booked for tonight, but I'll see if I can whip something up tomorrow evening.

oren · **#28**

Here is Takao Shinji's blog about his game against Tan Xiao.

http://blog.goo.ne.jp/s-takao-san/e/e7e ... 5346e690b6

If I get some free time tonight, I'll translate it.

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