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| Author: | trout [ Fri Feb 20, 2015 12:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | 2015 Hasae cup (è³æ² Celebrating New Year) |
This tournament is sponsored by China's CCTV. 1st place is 80,000 yuan, 2nd place 40,000 yuan and 3rd is 20,000 yuan. ($1 = about 6 yuan)  Players; China - Tuo Jiaxi Japan - Murakawa Daisuke Korea - Kim Jiseok 1st day, Tuo Jiaxi vs Murakawa Daisuke Tuo Jiaxi defeated Murakawa Daisuke by 0.5. |
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| Author: | trout [ Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2015 Hasae cup (è³æ² Celebrating New Year) |
2nd day, Kim Jiseok vs Murakawa Daisuke Kim Jiseok defeated Murakawa Daisuke by resign. |
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| Author: | trout [ Sun Feb 22, 2015 12:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2015 Hasae cup (è³æ² Celebrating New Year) |
3rd day, Kim Jiseok vs Tuo Jiaxi Tuo Jiaxi defeated Kim Jiseok by resign. Tuo Jiaxi took 2015 Hasae cup. |
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| Author: | Darsey [ Sun Feb 22, 2015 5:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2015 Hasae cup (è³æ² Celebrating New Year) |
Where can we see the kifus of the games? |
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| Author: | macelee [ Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2015 Hasae cup (è³æ² Celebrating New Year) |
http://www.go4go.net/go/games/sgfview/46173 http://www.go4go.net/go/games/sgfview/46164 http://www.go4go.net/go/games/sgfview/46163 |
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| Author: | trout [ Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2015 Hasae cup (è³æ² Celebrating New Year) |
Correction; 1st place is 800,000 yuan, 2nd place 400,000 yuan and 3rd is 200,000 yuan. ($1 = about 6 yuan) |
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| Author: | Darsey [ Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2015 Hasae cup (è³æ² Celebrating New Year) |
Also be correction: Tuo Jiaxi defeated Murakawa Daisuke by 1.5. Did they play with chinesse rules? I am asking because in the game between Tuo Jiaxi and Murakawa, they played in all "dame". |
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| Author: | oren [ Mon Feb 23, 2015 10:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2015 Hasae cup (è³æ² Celebrating New Year) |
Darsey wrote: Did they play with chinesse rules? I am asking because in the game between Tuo Jiaxi and Murakawa, they played in all "dame". Yes |
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| Author: | ez4u [ Mon Feb 23, 2015 4:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2015 Hasae cup (è³æ² Celebrating New Year) |
Darsey wrote: Also be correction: Tuo Jiaxi defeated Murakawa Daisuke by 1.5. Did they play with chinesse rules? I am asking because in the game between Tuo Jiaxi and Murakawa, they played in all "dame". Careful. Go4Go sometimes reports a result that is 1 point off from other sources. I don't know the reason but suspect that it is not the players that get it wrong. |
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| Author: | Darsey [ Thu Feb 26, 2015 10:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2015 Hasae cup (è³æ² Celebrating New Year) |
ez4u wrote: Darsey wrote: Also be correction: Tuo Jiaxi defeated Murakawa Daisuke by 1.5. Did they play with chinesse rules? I am asking because in the game between Tuo Jiaxi and Murakawa, they played in all "dame". Careful. Go4Go sometimes reports a result that is 1 point off from other sources. I don't know the reason but suspect that it is not the players that get it wrong. Oh, ok. I am new with Go4Go, I did my account when I was answered with the games 
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| Author: | macelee [ Thu Feb 26, 2015 3:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2015 Hasae cup (è³æ² Celebrating New Year) |
ez4u wrote: Careful. Go4Go sometimes reports a result that is 1 point off from other sources. I don't know the reason but suspect that it is not the players that get it wrong. This is just Go4Go style. When this happens, Chinese rule is in use. The game results are just double what the Chinese results are, e.g. B+3.5 mean 'black wins by 1 and 3/4 stones'. If you apply Japanese rule to such games the results can indeed be 1 point away. But you cannot say that other sources are correct because those results are not official. Other people sometimes record these games using stone as unit, e.g. B+1.75 (and recording komi as 3.75). But I prefer not to use that style because it can cause problem to some Go software, giving strange result such as B+1.8 which is even more confusing, as shown in the image below: |
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| Author: | ez4u [ Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2015 Hasae cup (è³æ² Celebrating New Year) |
macelee wrote: ez4u wrote: Careful. Go4Go sometimes reports a result that is 1 point off from other sources. I don't know the reason but suspect that it is not the players that get it wrong. This is just Go4Go style. When this happens, Chinese rule is in use. The game results are just double what the Chinese results are, e.g. B+3.5 mean 'black wins by 1 and 3/4 stones'. If you apply Japanese rule to such games the results can indeed be 1 point away. But you cannot say that other sources are correct because those results are not official. Other people sometimes record these games using stone as unit, e.g. B+1.75 (and recording komi as 3.75). But I prefer not to use that style because it can cause problem to some Go software, giving strange result such as B+1.8 which is even more confusing, as shown in the image below: Mace, what was the official result? It was reported on the Nihon Kiin website as 0.5 points. |
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| Author: | macelee [ Fri Feb 27, 2015 12:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2015 Hasae cup (è³æ² Celebrating New Year) |
ez4u wrote: macelee wrote: ez4u wrote: Mace, what was the official result? It was reported on the Nihon Kiin website as 0.5 points. Major Chinese news sources reported b+ 3/4 stones. Again this is caused by using different rules and there's no easy solution. Fortunately, this problem rarely changes the winning and losing sides. |
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