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| Author: | trout [ Tue Apr 12, 2016 4:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | 8th Ing Cup |
8th Ing cup is starting 4/19(Opening ceremony and pairing). 4/20 - round of 28 4/22 - round of 16(14 winners from round of 28 and winner and runner-up from last.) 4/24 - round of 8 June - semi final (3 games) August - final(5 games) Time setting - 3 hours main and 20 minutes(2 points penalty)*2 Korea; Park Junghwan(runner-up), Lee Sedol, Park Yeonghun, Won Sungjin, Kang Dongyun, Kim Jiseok, Na Hyun China; Fan Tingyu(winner), Qiu Jun, Gu Li, Chen Yaoye, Shi Yue, Tuo Jiaxi, Tang Weixing, Mi Yuting, Ke Jie), Lian Xiao, Huang Yunsong Japan; Yamashita Keigo, Hane Naoki, Kono Rin, Cho U, Yuki Satoshi, Xu Yao Guo(So Yokoku) Taiwan; Wang Yuanjun(7d), Lin Lixiang(6d) North America; Andy Liu, Eric Lui Europe; Fan Hui(2d), Mateusz Surma |
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| Author: | HKA [ Tue Apr 12, 2016 5:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 8th Ing Cup |
North America will be represented by its first homegrown pro Andy Liu, and its most recent, Eric Lui. |
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| Author: | macelee [ Tue Apr 12, 2016 5:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 8th Ing Cup |
HKA wrote: North America will be represented by its first homegrown pro Andy Liu, and its most recent, Eric Lui. Do you mean one of them? |
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| Author: | Uberdude [ Tue Apr 12, 2016 5:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 8th Ing Cup |
Mateusz Surma 1p from Poland should also be playing in the Ing cup as that was the reward for coming 2nd in the European Professional Go Championship 2016 (Fan Hui came first and also got Ing cup place, Ilya Shikshin came 3rd and got Chunlan Cup place). (If you count the players trout listed from Asia there are 26 which includes the winner/runner-up so there is space for 28+2-26=4 from NA/Europe.) |
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| Author: | Uberdude [ Tue Apr 12, 2016 6:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 8th Ing Cup |
Disappointed to see no Iyama Yuta again! Deja vu ... viewtopic.php?p=99822#p99822 His 3rd Judan title match game is on the 14th April and 4th if he needs it is 20th so that is a scheduling conflict, though I'd expect him to win the 3rd game (and thus get the simultaneous big 7) so the 4th game wouldn't be needed. |
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| Author: | xed_over [ Tue Apr 12, 2016 6:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 8th Ing Cup |
macelee wrote: HKA wrote: North America will be represented by its first homegrown pro Andy Liu, and its most recent, Eric Lui. Do you mean one of them? They are both pro. Eric this year in January, and Andy in Aug 2012 |
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| Author: | macelee [ Tue Apr 12, 2016 7:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 8th Ing Cup |
Thanks. So NA and EU each gets two players. I got confused by the original post saying "round of 28" - actually there are 30 players in total. |
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| Author: | trout [ Tue Apr 12, 2016 8:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 8th Ing Cup |
macelee wrote: Thanks. So NA and EU each gets two players. I got confused by the original post saying "round of 28" - actually there are 30 players in total. 2 players (winner and runner-up) are seeded to 2nd round without going through 1st round. |
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| Author: | wineandgolover [ Tue Apr 12, 2016 11:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 8th Ing Cup |
I once scribed a game between Andy Liu and Eric Lui. After an amazingly fast ko at the end which I could barely follow, I gave up my scribing aspirations. I am amazed and pleased that Europe and North America get two reps each. I am sure there must be grumbling about that somewhere though. Much like when the seventeenth best European team complains about missing the football World Cup when some "clearly inferior" Central American country qualifies. |
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| Author: | macelee [ Tue Apr 19, 2016 6:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 8th Ing Cup |
Round 1 pairing: 2016-04-20 Shi Yue vs Yamashita Keigo Chen Yaoye vs Kono Rin Gu Li vs Park Yeonghun Eric Lui vs Hane Naoki Tang Weixing vs Yuki Satoshi Mi Yuting vs Fan Hui Lian Xiao vs Kim Jiseok Qiu Jun vs Kang Dongyun Tuo Jiaxi vs Weon Seongjin Andy Liu vs Lee Sedol Lin Lixiang vs Na Hyun Wang Yuanjun vs Mateusz Surma Ke Jie vs Cho U Huang Yunsong vs So Yokoku Fan Tingyu and Park Junghwan are in round 2 directly. |
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| Author: | Uberdude [ Tue Apr 19, 2016 6:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 8th Ing Cup |
macelee wrote: Wang Yuanjun vs Mateusz Surma Ilya Shikshin beat Wang Yuanjun 6p at the WMSG a few years ago, so maybe Matesuz has some chance. He posted about arriving in Shanghai on his blog: http://mateuszsurma.pl/en/ macelee wrote: Andy Liu vs Lee Sedol 
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| Author: | Solomon [ Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 8th Ing Cup |
Predictions for R1 (winner in bold): Shi Yue vs Yamashita Keigo Chen Yaoye vs Kono Rin Gu Li vs Park Yeonghun Eric Lui vs Hane Naoki Tang Weixing vs Yuki Satoshi Mi Yuting vs Fan Hui Lian Xiao vs Kim Jiseok Qiu Jun vs Kang Dongyun Tuo Jiaxi vs Weon Seongjin Andy Liu vs Lee Sedol Lin Lixiang vs Na Hyun Wang Yuanjun vs Mateusz Surma Ke Jie vs Cho U Huang Yunsong vs So Yokoku |
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| Author: | handa711 [ Tue Apr 19, 2016 7:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 8th Ing Cup |
I'm so glad we have these forums. There's literally no where else to find information about pairings for this tournament. |
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| Author: | handa711 [ Tue Apr 19, 2016 7:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 8th Ing Cup |
Racist Tygem not broadcasting the games with Japanese (except Cho U-Ke Jie) |
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| Author: | Uberdude [ Tue Apr 19, 2016 9:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 8th Ing Cup |
I'd mostly agree with Solomon's predictions but think I would go for the Chinese not Korean players in a few of those close match ups: Tuo over Weon, maybe Gu over Park, that's basically even to me, and Lian slightly over Kim. |
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| Author: | Elom [ Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 8th Ing Cup |
handa711 wrote: Racist Tygem not broadcasting the games with Japanese (except Cho U-Ke Jie) On Wbaduk, the potentially historic match between Iyama 9p and Ida 9p is broadcast, while simultaneously, the Ing cup (maybe historic in that the tournament system's changed, or 4 western players in a major Asian tournament, etc.) is broadcasting matchup's in which nearly each and every one would be one I'd give high viewing priority to in any other tournament. Rather dramatic, unbelievable moment but I haven't time to focus on the games
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| Author: | Uberdude [ Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 8th Ing Cup |
All the games are on wbaduk. Mi Yuting already beat Fan Hui, Fan made a centre that was too small. Having seen the games maybe I would revise my prediction to slightly favour Weon Seongjin, but the other games going as expected. Eric Lui seems to be putting up a decent fight. |
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| Author: | trout [ Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 8th Ing Cup |
1st round, Mi Yuting defeated Fan Hui by resign. Lee Sedol defeated Andy Liu by resign. Lin Lixiang defeated Na Hyun by resign. Wang Yuanjun defeated Mateusz Surma by resign. Kim Jiseok defeated Lian Xiao by resign. Tang Weixing defeated Yuki Satoshi by 5. Huang Yunsong defeated So Yokoku by resign. Kono Rin defeated Chen Yaoye by 5. Ke Jie defeated Cho U by resign. Hane Naoki defeated Eric Lui by resign. Park Yeonghun defeated Gu Li by resign. Shi Yue defeated Yamashita Keigo by resign. Kang Dongyun defeated Qiu Jun by resign. Won Seongjin defeated Tuo Jiaxi by resign. Pairing for round of 16; Mi Yuting vs Kim Jiseok Lin Lixiang vs Lee Sedol Wang Yuanjun vs Ke Jie Tang Weixing vs Hane Naoki Huang Yunsong vs Park Junghwan Kono Rin vs Park Yeonghun Shi Yue vs Fan Tingyu Kang Dongyun vs Won Seongjin 4/22 - round of 16(14 winners from round of 28 and winner and runner-up from last.) 4/24 - round of 8 |
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| Author: | Solomon [ Wed Apr 20, 2016 2:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 8th Ing Cup |
Huge victory for Korea, just saw Won Seongjin win over Tuo Jiaxi. 12/14 in my predictions, Chen Yaoye losing to Kono Rin which is kind of an upset, and Lin Lixiang winning over Na Hyun which I think was not too surprising. |
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| Author: | Uberdude [ Wed Apr 20, 2016 2:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 8th Ing Cup |
Only upsets so far are Kono Rin beating Chen Yaoye. goratings.org put that at 33% probability. Glad to see one Japanese player survive. Seemed to me Chen didn't have enough big ko threats and once white's group lived it was hard. Kono also used his aji on the left side nicely. And then Lin Lixiang (who I've never heard of) beat Na Hyun which was at 17%. Solomon wrote: Huge victory for Korea, just saw Won Seongjin win over Tuo Jiaxi. Indeed, the reason I went slightly for Lian Xiao was not that he was 4 points higher rated by goratings, but that he was 3-0 in previous games against Kim. Weon was 2-1 against Tuo but 70 points lower on goratings so a good win for him. Park beating Gu I suppose should be expected as he is in good form lately (63 points higher) but Gu Li has more history of winning big tournaments and I was hoping he could revive his form for the Ing. |
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