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| Author: | oren [ Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | 37th Kisei |
https://ssl.nihonkiin.or.jp/37th-kisei/ http://kisei.yomiuri.co.jp/ Cho U vs Iyama Yuta will start playing game 1 Thursday (Wednesday evening for US) in Okinawa. $500k to the winner of the series. I'm looking forward to this matchup. |
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| Author: | Uberdude [ Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 37th Kisei |
Iyama currently holds 5 of the big 7 Japanese titles (Honinbo, Tengen, Oza, Gosei, Judan). I wonder if he can make it all 7. I know Cho Chikun has won all 7, but has anyone ever held them simultaneously? |
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| Author: | oren [ Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 37th Kisei |
Uberdude, I don't think anyone has held all 7. It's rare that anyone has held the big 3 at the same time. Cho U is playing to keep the Kisei for a fourth straight term and Iyama for the chance to have six of the seven major titles. Here was the match to decide the challenger to Cho U. |
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| Author: | lemmata [ Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 37th Kisei |
Uberdude wrote: I know Cho Chikun has won all 7, but has anyone ever held them simultaneously? No one has ever done so.In fact, Cho Chikun is the only one to have ever held the top three titles (Kisei, Meijin, Honinbo) simultaneously. |
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| Author: | rpchuang [ Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 37th Kisei |
lemmata wrote: Uberdude wrote: I know Cho Chikun has won all 7, but has anyone ever held them simultaneously? No one has ever done so.In fact, Cho Chikun is the only one to have ever held the top three titles (Kisei, Meijin, Honinbo) simultaneously. That would be the Grand Slam of Go! |
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| Author: | handa711 [ Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 37th Kisei |
Anyone know where to watch this live? IGS isn't broadcasting. |
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| Author: | oren [ Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 37th Kisei |
wbaduk has it live. This page shows the moves. http://118.151.176.73/kisei.yomi/kisei/ ... 7ban01.htm |
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| Author: | oren [ Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 37th Kisei |
Time used in the first day Cho U: 2:45 Iyama Yuta: 4:45 |
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| Author: | oren [ Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 37th Kisei |
Uberdude wrote: I know Cho Chikun has won all 7, but has anyone ever held them simultaneously? Cho U also had the grand slam, but not all at one time. |
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| Author: | JuicesGo [ Thu Jan 17, 2013 8:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 37th Kisei |
Can anyone explain to me what b93 accomplishes in the challenger match? Its that slow type of honte move that pros play that I never quite grasp the meaning behind it. |
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| Author: | handa711 [ Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 37th Kisei |
How to read the result on Wbaduk? I watched the whole game and still doesn't know who won... |
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| Author: | lovelove [ Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 37th Kisei |
handa711 wrote: How to read the result on Wbaduk? I watched the whole game and still doesn't know who won... W+5.5 |
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| Author: | lovelove [ Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 37th Kisei |
JuicesGo wrote: Can anyone explain to me what b93 accomplishes in the challenger match? Its that slow type of honte move that pros play that I never quite grasp the meaning behind it. http://senseis.xmp.net/?HaneAtTheHeadOfTwoStones |
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| Author: | quantumf [ Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 37th Kisei |
lovelove wrote: JuicesGo wrote: Can anyone explain to me what b93 accomplishes in the challenger match? Its that slow type of honte move that pros play that I never quite grasp the meaning behind it. http://senseis.xmp.net/?HaneAtTheHeadOfTwoStones What? That move is not hane at the head of two stones - its kosumi at the head of two stones, which is not a proverb I've ever heard of 
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| Author: | lovelove [ Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 37th Kisei |
quantumf wrote: lovelove wrote: JuicesGo wrote: Can anyone explain to me what b93 accomplishes in the challenger match? Its that slow type of honte move that pros play that I never quite grasp the meaning behind it. http://senseis.xmp.net/?HaneAtTheHeadOfTwoStones What? That move is not hane at the head of two stones - its kosumi at the head of two stones, which is not a proverb I've ever heard of b93 is hane for sure if my eyes aren't wrong. |
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| Author: | quantumf [ Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 37th Kisei |
lovelove wrote: b93 is hane for sure if my eyes aren't wrong. Your eyes are definitely wrong (or you're looking at the wrong move) - see the definition for hane http://senseis.xmp.net/?Hane The important part of the definition is bending around your opponent's stones. |
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| Author: | HKA [ Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 37th Kisei |
quantumf wrote: lovelove wrote: b93 is hane for sure if my eyes aren't wrong. Your eyes are definitely wrong (or you're looking at the wrong move) - see the definition for hane http://senseis.xmp.net/?Hane The important part of the definition is bending around your opponent's stones. Sometimes it is best to look for the source of miscommunication, instead of just being right. B93 in the title match game looks to be hane at the end of two stones. The original question, however, is about the b93 in the challenger match game. It looks like lovelove's eyes are fine, and he is not looking at the wrong move, he is looking at the wrong game. b93 in the challenger's game looks like a wonderfully thick move to me. It limits white's endgame on the left, more importantly it makes it harder for white to seal black in because of the weak group on the lower left. In fact, it further weakens it enough that white essentially treats it as sente and reaches out to the group with his next two moves. |
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| Author: | xed_over [ Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 37th Kisei |
HKA wrote: Sometimes it is best to look for the source of miscommunication, instead of just being right. Oh, if we could all be so careful 
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| Author: | ez4u [ Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 37th Kisei |
lovelove wrote: handa711 wrote: How to read the result on Wbaduk? I watched the whole game and still doesn't know who won... W+5.5 Takao Shinji has a blog that I read regularly. He was in Kyushu for the game. At the lunch break he posted that Black was better (形勢は、黒が、良さそう) but 3 hours later he posted an update that White stood better, together with the puzzled inquiry, "When/how did White become better?" (白が良さそう。いつの間に、白が、良くなったんだろ？). |
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| Author: | oren [ Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 37th Kisei |
Game 2 starts in about three and a half hours. I think Cho U really needs to take this one. |
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