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Likedness and rank or no answer without question.
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Author:  tapir [ Sun Apr 17, 2011 3:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Likedness and rank or no answer without question.
Did anyone else notice that the number of likes is approximately proportional to rank. Why is that, do we like intelligent answers but underestimate the contribution of intelligent questions to that answers? :geek:
Author:  daal [ Sun Apr 17, 2011 4:13 pm ]
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I for one appreciate (and like) a good question as much as a good answer.
Author:  hyperpape [ Sun Apr 17, 2011 4:21 pm ]
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Dumb and mediocre questions get smart answers.

Also, the most liked posters are typically heavy posters. And the heavy posters are a bit higher in rank--dan level usually. I'm an outlier on both counts, but I think I don't get liked because I'm an argumentative blowhard, rather than because I'm weak (even though it's true). So your trend is a bit smaller than it would appear because of that confounding factor.
Author:  Chew Terr [ Sun Apr 17, 2011 4:23 pm ]
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For every good question, there tend to be a few good answers to it. So yes, it is probably proportionally easier for a lot of likes to happen from answering questions to asking them.
Author:  yoyoma [ Sun Apr 17, 2011 4:27 pm ]
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A new inspiration to become stronger!
Author:  ez4u [ Sun Apr 17, 2011 6:30 pm ]
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"You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether a man is wise by his questions."
Naguib Mahfouz (Egyptian writer and Nobel literature prize laureate)

I guess we are better at recognizing cleverness than wisdom? I fit right in. I "liked" hyperpape's answer and only later thought I really should "like" tapir's original question! :grumpy:
Author:  RobertJasiek [ Sun Apr 17, 2011 10:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Likedness and rank or no answer without question.
Likes prefer
- topics liked by users liking to issue likes
- history information
- reports on Asia
- stupid jokes
- answers with emotional agreement regardless of factual (in)correctness
- simple answers to simple questions

Likes abstain from
- other topics
- factually correct but detailed answers
- answers not using security risky JavaScript excessively

Likes do not reflect relative quality of contents and are a very weak indicator of playing strength.
Author:  hyperpape [ Sun Apr 17, 2011 10:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Likedness and rank or no answer without question.
RobertJasiek wrote:
Likes abstain from...answers not using security risky JavaScript excessively
Is that a joke, Robert?!
Author:  RobertJasiek [ Sun Apr 17, 2011 10:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Likedness and rank or no answer without question.
Of course not.
Author:  Koroviev [ Mon Apr 18, 2011 8:52 am ]
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RobertJasiek wrote:
Of course not.


Uberlol!
Author:  RobertJasiek [ Mon Apr 18, 2011 9:03 am ]
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Koroviev, I have noticed that some Likes issuing users like messages with diagrams or games shown in L19's JavaScript-dependent features. As a consequence, users like me who restrict their JavaScript activation a lot get much less Likes from the aforementioned users.

JavaScript is a security risk because
1) L19's programmers might intentionally... (well, too unlikely, until such would be proven)
2) L19's programmers can make mistakes like all programmers and such bugs can be exploited by external malware specialized in attacking weak webpage programming
3) L19 might be severely hacked by external malware, replace JavaScript code and expect careless readers of L19 to have activated JavaScript in their browsers
4) JavaScript allows in principle execution of random code (subject to other security barriers)

So it is not LOL but serious.
Author:  Kirby [ Mon Apr 18, 2011 9:10 am ]
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Javascript is used by the diagrams for a couple of reasons, but one reason in particular is to parse diagram text to allow for title text to be posted separately from the image returned by the php.

I could look into ways to generate the diagrams independently of javascropt, but I'm not quite sure how to do it atm while retaining the current diagram functionality.
Author:  Koroviev [ Mon Apr 18, 2011 1:43 pm ]
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RobertJasiek wrote:
Koroviev, I have noticed that some Likes issuing users like messages with diagrams or games shown in L19's JavaScript-dependent features. As a consequence, users like me who restrict their JavaScript activation a lot get much less Likes from the aforementioned users.

JavaScript is a security risk because
1) L19's programmers might intentionally... (well, too unlikely, until such would be proven)
2) L19's programmers can make mistakes like all programmers and such bugs can be exploited by external malware specialized in attacking weak webpage programming
3) L19 might be severely hacked by external malware, replace JavaScript code and expect careless readers of L19 to have activated JavaScript in their browsers
4) JavaScript allows in principle execution of random code (subject to other security barriers)

So it is not LOL but serious.


ULTRALOL.
Author:  jts [ Mon Apr 18, 2011 2:10 pm ]
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Javascript is also very inconvenient for those of us who need to access L19 through seven proxies due to severe anti-go persecution! :cry: :cry: :cry:
Author:  shapenaji [ Mon Apr 18, 2011 4:05 pm ]
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Actually, I've noticed that with the exception of a few rare edge cases, most people have around the same ratio of posts-to-liked
Author:  Solomon [ Mon Apr 18, 2011 4:16 pm ]
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Actually my AGA and KGS ranks have dropped since I registered on this site, so clearly the only conclusion is that getting likes makes you weaker.
Author:  shapenaji [ Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:47 pm ]
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Araban wrote:
Actually my AGA and KGS ranks have dropped since I registered on this site, so clearly the only conclusion is that getting likes makes you weaker.


From now on I'm liking all your posts I read, and then playing you for money
Author:  LocoRon [ Mon Apr 18, 2011 6:43 pm ]
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shapenaji wrote:
Araban wrote:
Actually my AGA and KGS ranks have dropped since I registered on this site, so clearly the only conclusion is that getting likes makes you weaker.


From now on I'm liking all your posts I read, and then playing you for money


Here's the list of "all" his posts, to make your task a little easier. ;)
search.php?author_id=104&sr=posts
Author:  hyperpape [ Wed Apr 20, 2011 3:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Likedness and rank or no answer without question.
Well, I disagree about the cost-benefit analysis surrounding javascript, but what really struck me as off is the idea that the quality of posts using eidogo aren't any better.

People just aren't posting whole games via diagrams, nor game commentaries. So there's a real difference in content and content quality that you're getting.
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