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Post #1 Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 4:16 pm 
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On-going game so please use hide tags!!!

I found this position fascinating to play around with. I think I've found a nice move. I hope it provides entertainment to others. :)


Better alternatives to :b53: here: ( :b53: has been played)



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Post #2 Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 4:42 pm 
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black does not look strong enough to me to start an attack like that. I would just tobi

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Post #3 Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 4:48 pm 
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I'm certainly not the strongest player here, but to me that looks very dangerous for black if white pushes through with M13. Black M13 or N11 look safer. M13 in particular is sente and after white pushes out with L13 black can save his cutting stone by playing F4 and split white into 2 groups. If white attempts to run his F3 group into the center with G4 G5 then black can aim for a peep at D9 followed by a split at C8. At this point 4 of white's groups are under attack.

Anyway, there are much stronger players than me around, but those lines look interesting to me anyway.

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Post #4 Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 4:51 pm 
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B messed up somewhere between :w38: (W invades) and :w50: (B bad shape).

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Post #5 Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:00 pm 
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EdLee wrote:
B messed up somewhere between :w38: (W invades) and :w50: (B bad shape).


I didn't check too carefully the moves before, but seems like the M14 block from above at move 49 is a possible idea. In my opinion, though, up to move 52 it's not a very bad result for black.

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Post #6 Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:36 pm 
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I read it out again and eh, actually I'm screwed and will be resigning soon. :oops:

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Post #7 Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 6:38 pm 
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You are 100% not screwed. Courage!

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Post #8 Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:05 pm 
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jts wrote:
You are 100% not screwed. Courage!


Yeah resigning is an overstatement, now I've 3 days to figure out how to get something good from the position after white cuts which has happened and is what caused the reread.

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Post #9 Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 5:19 am 
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My alternative ideas:


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Post #10 Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 10:49 am 
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My instinct is 41 at P15.

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Post #11 Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 2:01 am 
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move 41= p17, n16, p14. What do you think?

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Post #12 Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 2:03 am 
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OtakuViking wrote:
move 41= p17, n16, p14. What do you think?


I think it's a far better result than my cross-cut.

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Post #13 Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 3:21 am 
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Variations:

:b37: - O-14 Frontier of frameworks. Big.

:b39: - P-15

:b41: - O-15 :w42: - N-16 :b43: - P-17

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Post #14 Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:59 am 
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OK, I have added some variations. :)

Move 53 is quite difficult, I think. I finally came up with an idea. Sacrifice on the right side to build up strength in the center.


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