RobertJasiek wrote:
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viewtopic.php?p=183739#p183739Cassandra wrote:
I do not suppose that there is much THEORY available on "pruning leaves".
There is much such theory.
I have not seen any. You simply have to be well aware of "kori-gatachi".
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-- Study the result of someone more experienced than you pruning your arrangement, especially compare the pictures before, and after.
-- Practise pruning your arrangements on your own.
What do you mean by "arrangement" and "pictures"?
"Arrangement" is the final Ikebana, and "pictures" are the impressions given to the spectator.
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-- Accept that the more experienced person's judgement (that "after" has more harmony than "before") will be true in the overwhelming majority of cases.
If you mean "positional judgement", I disagree. Many "more experienced persons" might offer their opinion, but too often without explanation. Such opinion is not better than looking through pro games with the expectation that most positions must be "good". However, maybe you mean a different kind of judgement, if so which?
It's simply the judgement on "kori-gatachi".
Everything that is superfluous can be cut out.
About multiple opinions (which will be identical) without explanation:
There is no such an explanation that you are looking for. Just a question like "Do you also think that the second picture is "better" than the first one ?"
If you do not grasp the underlying "principle" on your own, you will be unable to integrate it in your designing your next Ikebana.
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-- Ask a third party for their opinion. [...] Accept this party's opinion in 90 per cent of cases without thinking.
I guess again you presume the third party to be a "more experienced person" (in the meaning of "more skillful"). My experience with third party opinions has been: Their statements without reasoning are of very little use (even if I presume their 90+% correctness) while their statements with careful reasoning or justification are very valuable. Unfortunately, such statements are rare.
I wrote very intentinally that the third party must NOT be a specialist in Ikebana. Nearly every "amateurish" spectator is able to distinguish between an Ikebana that is full of harmony, and an Ikebana that is not. A "professional" will see (and also give the appropriate advice, if asked) that you might turn your "95 per cent" Ikebana into a "100 per cent" Ikebana, if you slightly adjust the orientation of that single branch on the left side, and additionally remove one of the several blossoms, but this is nothing that affects the judgement of the general public.
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-- For walking on the last few per cent of your path, ask the more experienced person for advice again.
As consequence of the above, I find myself walking my own path for 90+%.
If external advice were as good as you hope, I would agree with you. However, it is not as good. Apart from the rare really helpful advice, I benefit more by doing my own study or research using pro games, my games or inventions.
If you know better sources, share them.
You cannot pass the immense threshold that hinders you to access the last few per cent of your path without feedback from the "outside". The same might be true for any threshold that you encountered before.
This is simply because you are unable to "see" where YOUR obstacles are. As well as you are unaware of the areas, from which you do not "know" that you perform better that the average, and for which you do need encouragement to foster these more strongly.
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