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Offline Uberdude
 Post subject: Re: New tsume-go technique
Post #21 Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 9:04 pm 
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Shaddy:
Shaddy wrote:
I thought that was the answer for a few hours, but how to reply to
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$B B to play: Letter 'i' - 5-dan level
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . .
$$ | 2 X . . O . . . . . .
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , .
$$ | . X 1 . . O . . . . .
$$ | O X O . . O . . . . .
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . .
$$ -----------------------[/go]

?

It's late so maybe I'm being dumb, but what's wrong with simple block?

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$B B to play: Letter 'i' - 5-dan level
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . .
$$ | 2 X . . O . . . . . .
$$ | 3 . a , . O . . . , .
$$ | . X 1 . . O . . . . .
$$ | O X O b . O . . . . .
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . .
$$ -----------------------[/go]


Now a and b are miai, and we can ignore white a to play b because we already made 1 eye in the corner. (I didn't actually try to solve this problem yet).
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Offline Shaddy
 Post subject: Re: New tsume-go technique
Post #22 Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 11:08 pm 
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Uberdude wrote:
Shaddy:
Shaddy wrote:
I thought that was the answer for a few hours, but how to reply to
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$B B to play: Letter 'i' - 5-dan level
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . .
$$ | 2 X . . O . . . . . .
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , .
$$ | . X 1 . . O . . . . .
$$ | O X O . . O . . . . .
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . .
$$ -----------------------[/go]

?

It's late so maybe I'm being dumb, but what's wrong with simple block?

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$B B to play: Letter 'i' - 5-dan level
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . .
$$ | 2 X . . O . . . . . .
$$ | 3 . a , . O . . . , .
$$ | . X 1 . . O . . . . .
$$ | O X O b . O . . . . .
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . .
$$ -----------------------[/go]


Now a and b are miai, and we can ignore white a to play b because we already made 1 eye in the corner. (I didn't actually try to solve this problem yet).



Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$B B to play: Letter 'i' - 5-dan level
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . .
$$ | 2 X . . O . . . . . .
$$ | 3 . a , . O . . . , .
$$ | 4 X 1 . . O . . . . .
$$ | O X O b . O . . . . .
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . .
$$ -----------------------[/go]

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Offline Uberdude
 Post subject: Re: New tsume-go technique
Post #23 Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 3:39 am 
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Ah, nice!
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Offline Krama
 Post subject: Re: New tsume-go technique
Post #24 Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:38 am 
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Shaddy wrote:
Uberdude wrote:
Shaddy:
Shaddy wrote:
I thought that was the answer for a few hours, but how to reply to
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$B B to play: Letter 'i' - 5-dan level
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . .
$$ | 2 X . . O . . . . . .
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , .
$$ | . X 1 . . O . . . . .
$$ | O X O . . O . . . . .
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . .
$$ -----------------------[/go]

?

It's late so maybe I'm being dumb, but what's wrong with simple block?

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$B B to play: Letter 'i' - 5-dan level
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . .
$$ | 2 X . . O . . . . . .
$$ | 3 . a , . O . . . , .
$$ | . X 1 . . O . . . . .
$$ | O X O b . O . . . . .
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . .
$$ -----------------------[/go]


Now a and b are miai, and we can ignore white a to play b because we already made 1 eye in the corner. (I didn't actually try to solve this problem yet).



Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$B B to play: Letter 'i' - 5-dan level
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . .
$$ | 2 X . . O . . . . . .
$$ | 3 . a , . O . . . , .
$$ | 4 X 1 . . O . . . . .
$$ | O X O b . O . . . . .
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . .
$$ -----------------------[/go]


Just take at a6 and you can make 2 eyes.
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Offline Uberdude
 Post subject: Re: New tsume-go technique
Post #25 Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:03 am 
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Krama
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$B B to play: Letter 'i' - 5-dan level
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | 5 O O O . . . . . . .
$$ | 2 X . . O . . . . . .
$$ | 3 a 6 , . O . . . , .
$$ | 4 X 1 . . O . . . . .
$$ | O X O b . O . . . . .
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . .
$$ -----------------------[/go]

a/b miai now as a falsifies the eye and no way black can make it a real eye in sente.
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Offline gogeo
 Post subject: Re: New tsume-go technique
Post #26 Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:07 am 
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Hello,
I was trying to find or buy this newspaper. Can someone help me to get it?

Cheers
Darek
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Offline oren
 Post subject: Re: New tsume-go technique
Post #27 Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:48 am 
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gogeo wrote:
Hello,
I was trying to find or buy this newspaper. Can someone help me to get it?


Easiest ways are buy from here for electronic copy

https://e-gobooks.nihonkiin.or.jp/produ ... ct_id=2043

or here for physical.

http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E6%9C%88%E5%88 ... 00R1MLZ0E/

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Offline gonut
 Post subject: Re: New tsume-go technique
Post #28 Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 9:18 pm 
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Uberdude wrote:
Krama
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$B B to play: Letter 'i' - 5-dan level
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | 5 O O O . . . . . . .
$$ | 2 X . . O . . . . . .
$$ | 3 a 6 , . O . . . , .
$$ | 4 X 1 . . O . . . . .
$$ | O X O b . O . . . . .
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . .
$$ -----------------------[/go]

a/b miai now as a falsifies the eye and no way black can make it a real eye in sente.


Black plays 5 at 6 instead, with a ko to live. Yes?

Offhand, I don't see a way for Black to live outright.
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Offline oren
 Post subject: Re: New tsume-go technique
Post #29 Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 10:47 am 
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A two book set with just this technique separate from the Go World magazine is now available.

http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E7%9C%A0%E3%82 ... 01&sr=1-34

http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E7%9C%A0%E3%82 ... 413&sr=1-1
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Offline i3ullseye
 Post subject: Re: New tsume-go technique
Post #30 Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:38 am 
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This seems very Zen to me. Like focusing on a koan. I would assume that's no coincidence, and people may have used this for study throughout the years. Very cool idea.
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