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Post #21 Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:23 am 
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I'd have to read carefully to convince myself that D5 wasn't necessary here. It may not be, but it looks like white might have some funny business in there otherwise.

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Post #22 Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:22 pm 
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Post #23 Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:23 pm 
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tchan001 wrote:
Can you show an image (jpg/png) of the cover? Just want to know what your book looks like so we can figure out which Chinese book it is.

BobC wrote:
It is a very old book..

I can tell you I have a very different idea on what I would call "a very old go book".


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Post #24 Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:44 pm 
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The answer given:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bc Black to make best move
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . .
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . 1 . W . 2 . X . .
$$ | . . . X . . a . . . . .
$$ | . . X O O . . O . X . .
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ -------------------------[/go]


Also considered as poor:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bc Black to make best move
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . 1 . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . W . . . X . .
$$ | . . . X 2 . b . . . . .
$$ | . . X O O . . O . X . .
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ -------------------------[/go]


A tennuki I guess leaves this:

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[go]$$Bc Black to make best move
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . 1
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . 6 . . . . . . .
$$ | . . a 2 5 W . . . X . .
$$ | . . 7 X 3 4 . . . . . .
$$ | . . X O O . . O . X . .
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ -------------------------[/go]

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Post #25 Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:50 pm 
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Next..

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bc Black to move
$$ -------------------------
$$ . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . O . X O . . |
$$ . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ . . . . . . . X X O . |
$$ . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . . . |[/go]

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Post #26 Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:28 pm 
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The book title translates as "Weiqi Excellent Moves Question and Answers" and is written by Fujisawa Hideyuki. Your "A Chou" is probably referring to the Chinese translator.

It's nice that you are sharing some problems from the book, but please select just a few problems from the book and don't share the whole book.

The problems you have shared so far are the first three problems from the first chapter "Joseki and it's surroundings".

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Post #27 Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:16 am 
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somhow the google title is better.

Is the an English translation?

Sharing the whole book. This concerns me. We now have a thriving go club. Probably more members than that reading this thread. Shouldn't the owner be sharing the book with the club?

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Post #28 Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:40 am 
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No English tranlation I'm aware of.

It's not a problem if you pass the book amongst your club member, but posting all the problems from the book on a public forum is a really bad idea.

I did more digging for you. This Chinese book is actually a translation of 秀行・手筋テスト which is the 12th book in the Bessatsu Igo Kurabu series.

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Post #29 Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:53 am 
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really interesting..

Do you know if

1] it is till in print?
2] does it have an ISBN number?

Don't worry.. The prospect of typing out all the problems here is more daunting than any reprisal from the authors over copyright.

Are there any equivalent Engish books? Of the books I know this seems to fill a gap. Indeed the guy teaching me asked if it was worth translating formally (i.e with permissions)

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Post #30 Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:58 am 
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Actually

http://tchan001.wordpress.com/2010/05/1 ... -50-books/


look really good... I also like the way that you do a problem then turn a page for the variations...

English?

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Post #31 Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:27 am 
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BobC wrote:
really interesting..

Do you know if

1] it is till in print?
2] does it have an ISBN number?

Don't worry.. The prospect of typing out all the problems here is more daunting than any reprisal from the authors over copyright.

Are there any equivalent Engish books? Of the books I know this seems to fill a gap. Indeed the guy teaching me asked if it was worth translating formally (i.e with permissions)

I think both Chinese versions and Japanese versions are out of print. I don't think either has ISBN numbers.

If you are indeed seeking permission to translate it, probably need to ask the Japanese publisher, the Nihon Kiin.

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Post #32 Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:51 pm 
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Fujisawa's Tesuji Dictionary may fill some of those same gaps, and is available in english.

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