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Author:  dbdkmezz [ Sat May 18, 2013 5:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Mistake in solution in Davies Tesuji book?

I've been working though Davies' Tesuji book, and I don't think the solution to snapback problem 2 on page 31 works (or at least, it ends in a ko).

Here's the problem (white to play and capture the big clump of balck stones):
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[go]$$W
$$ -------
$$ ......|
$$ ..OOO.|
$$ .OXOX.|
$$ .OXXXa|
$$ .OX.O.|
$$ .OXO..|
$$ ..OXOX|
$$ ...XX.|
$$ ......|
$$ ..,...|[/go]

The given answer is a.

But I'm worried about black responding with 2:
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$W
$$ -------
$$ ......|
$$ ..OOO.|
$$ .OXOX4|
$$ .OXXX1|
$$ .OX.O2|
$$ .OXO.3|
$$ ..OXOX|
$$ ...XX.|
$$ ......|
$$ ..,...|[/go]


And it seems that now we're left with a ko. Have I missed something?

Cheers

(Oh, and this is my first post, so feel free to let me know if I'm using diagrams wrongly or something :))

Author:  amnal [ Sat May 18, 2013 5:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mistake in solution in Davies Tesuji book?

dbdkmezz wrote:
I've been working though Davies' Tesuji book, and I don't think the solution to snapback problem 2 on page 31 works (or at least, it ends in a ko).

Here's the problem (white to play and capture the big clump of balck stones):

...

And it seems that now we're left with a ko. Have I missed something?


Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$W
$$ -------
$$ ......|
$$ ..OOO.|
$$ .OXOX4|
$$ .OXXX1|
$$ .OX.O2|
$$ .OXO.3|
$$ ..OXOX|
$$ ...XX5|
$$ ......|
$$ ..,...|[/go]


I think white just plays 5, and black actually can't win the ko. One possibility is double ko that black cannot ever win:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$B
$$ -------
$$ ......|
$$ ..OOO2|
$$ .OXOXX|
$$ .OXXX4|
$$ .OX.O1|
$$ .OXO.O|
$$ ..OXO.|
$$ ...XXO|
$$ .....3|
$$ ..,...|[/go]

Author:  dbdkmezz [ Sun May 19, 2013 3:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Mistake in solution in Davies Tesuji book?

Oooh, that's nice.

Cheers, I'd never have seen that.

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