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CrazyStone loading handicap sgfs incorrectly?
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Author:  adnb [ Sat Jun 04, 2016 3:36 pm ]
Post subject:  CrazyStone loading handicap sgfs incorrectly?
So I played a handicap game on KGS and downloaded it to analyze in CrazyStone. It seems to get the first few moves completely wrong. Is this happening for other people, or is it a known issue?

I've uploaded the sgf to http://eidogo.com/#1LoUBP0wG

Seems like a pretty big flaw if it's standard.
Author:  vier [ Sun Jun 05, 2016 2:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CrazyStone loading handicap sgfs incorrectly?
adnb wrote:
So I played a handicap game on KGS and downloaded it to analyze in CrazyStone. It seems to get the first few moves completely wrong.
Seems like a pretty big flaw if it's standard.

Your file says HA[2]. OK, so it is a handicap game. More or less standard is to tell where the handicap stones are using AB[pd][dp]. However, your SGF does not do this, but lets B play a handicap stone (W passes) and another handicap stone.
The checker sgfcheck warns
Code:
sgfcheck 1LoUBP0wG.sgf: moves 1 and 2 were both played by B

Unfortunately, SGF is not really standard. The old standard is obsolete and nobody maintains the SGF standard today. Lots of variations are common, and it is difficult for software to accommodate all possible variations. (But for each of these minor variations, adding support is very easy, just a few lines of code.)
Author:  Amtiskaw [ Mon Jun 06, 2016 3:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: CrazyStone loading handicap sgfs incorrectly?
It's quite clear in SGF that things like Black making 2 moves in a row are allowed; any decent SGF editor should be able to handle this. (I'm speaking as someone who's made their own lame but functional SGF editor...) So this is just an oversight by Unbalance. Admittedly, servers like KGS should put handicaps as AB properties, not B properties.
Author:  Rémi [ Wed Jul 06, 2016 11:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: CrazyStone loading handicap sgfs incorrectly?
adnb wrote:
So I played a handicap game on KGS and downloaded it to analyze in CrazyStone. It seems to get the first few moves completely wrong. Is this happening for other people, or is it a known issue?

I've uploaded the sgf to http://eidogo.com/#1LoUBP0wG

Seems like a pretty big flaw if it's standard.


Thanks for reporting this problem. Unbalance told me that they released a new version today that fixes it. The new version also makes analysis more convenient, and has an upgraded engine.
Author:  Monadology [ Wed Jul 06, 2016 11:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: CrazyStone loading handicap sgfs incorrectly?
Rémi wrote:

Thanks for reporting this problem. Unbalance told me that they released a new version today that fixes it. The new version also makes analysis more convenient, and has an upgraded engine.


Don't you know if this new version will be a free update for those who purchased it already?

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Author:  Cassandra [ Wed Jul 06, 2016 11:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: CrazyStone loading handicap sgfs incorrectly?
Monadology wrote:
Don't you know if this new version will be a free update for those who purchased it already?

You can use the download link again that you received after buying CS.

The (new) installation program will upgrade version 1.00 to version 1.01.
Author:  Monadology [ Wed Jul 06, 2016 2:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CrazyStone loading handicap sgfs incorrectly?
Cassandra wrote:
Monadology wrote:
Don't you know if this new version will be a free update for those who purchased it already?

You can use the download link again that you received after buying CS.

The (new) installation program will upgrade version 1.00 to version 1.01.

Thanks. Since I got it via steam I can't do that, but hopefully it will get updated in steam too.

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Author:  OtakuViking [ Wed Jul 06, 2016 3:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CrazyStone loading handicap sgfs incorrectly?
Could you send the DL link? I looked through my email and I have the receit and stuff, but not the DL link for some reason x.x
Author:  Amtiskaw [ Wed Jul 06, 2016 3:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CrazyStone loading handicap sgfs incorrectly?
I believe the address is:

(https) coupon.unbalance.co.jp/csdl/dl.php?id=YOUR_SERIAL_NUMBER_HERE
Author:  OtakuViking [ Thu Jul 07, 2016 6:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: CrazyStone loading handicap sgfs incorrectly?
Amtiskaw wrote:
I believe the address is:

(https) coupon.unbalance.co.jp/csdl/dl.php?id=YOUR_SERIAL_NUMBER_HERE


Thanks, that worked. But download speed is like 5 KB/s lol :)
Author:  adnb [ Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: CrazyStone loading handicap sgfs incorrectly?
Thanks. Doesn't seem that there are been any updates on the steam version, but hopefully soon.
Author:  macelee [ Thu Jul 07, 2016 1:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CrazyStone loading handicap sgfs incorrectly?
OtakuViking wrote:
Amtiskaw wrote:
I believe the address is:

(https) coupon.unbalance.co.jp/csdl/dl.php?id=YOUR_SERIAL_NUMBER_HERE


Thanks, that worked. But download speed is like 5 KB/s lol :)


Same here. Extremely slow download.
Author:  Monadology [ Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CrazyStone loading handicap sgfs incorrectly?
For those who got it on Steam, it looks the the update just came down the pipes.
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